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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Even a 10 year old can understand it

141 replies

inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

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DialSquare · 19/05/2025 15:03

lnks · 19/05/2025 12:18

What is ‘terf wizard stuff’?

A Trans Exclusive Radical Feminist who wishes it could be Christmas everyday?

borntobequiet · 19/05/2025 15:10

inkognithia · 19/05/2025 12:17

Thanks to Haribo, my daughter and I have had one of the important chats a little earlier than I'd expected.

Sucked in by the power of marketing, she wanted to buy sweets in the supermarket, but they were branded with TERF wizard school stuff, so I explained that we could buy sweets, but not those, and she obviously wanted to know why.

Thus we had a short chat in the supermarket about how there was a person who had created those characters who turned out to be a bully, and she would get money from anything sold that was to do with her work. Then in the car we had a longer chat about trans people in which I was very conscious that my way of explaining who they are might not be the best and I might be putting it badly, but it was better to have the talk now than not at all.

Her current stance is that she is not OK with bullies and has immediately accepted that we don't buy anything that gives them money, and she specifically says she is on the side of trans people because some of them are our friends. Which might not be the perfect motivation, but I'll take it.

Usefully, this also led to a shorter talk about how people should be allowed to love and marry who they like irrespective of gender, but mostly she was surprised that anyone would think otherwise.

Respect is so simple a 10 year old can grasp it.

So you told your daughter a pack of lies about a successful and philanthropic woman. I wonder what else you plan to lie to her about.

Waitwhat23 · 19/05/2025 15:26

Along the lines of this -

You have to commend Tate for saying 'gooseberry and cinnamon yoghurt' that many times with a straight face. I wonder if she could do the same with TERF wizard school stuff.

You could imagine the child at the end of this sketch inadvertently admitting that they had been sorted into a Hogwarts house and being abandoned to sing 'Hoggy Hoggy Hogwarts' by himself in a mournful way.

SilenceInside · 19/05/2025 15:28

@DialSquare a opportune “feature” of a dodgy 3G connection whilst using the iOS mobile app.

Bluebootsgreenboots · 19/05/2025 15:42

NRFT - did someone say Haribo?! Now I can’t think of anything else! Need to get my hands on a giant pack now and scoff the lot.

Myalternate · 19/05/2025 15:42

When I was little my Mum used to tell me to always look for woman for help if I got separated from her. What should I tell my children to do in a similar situation 🤷‍♀️

PurpleBubble · 19/05/2025 16:02

When my daughter was 10 (the same age as OP's DD) she had her first period. As far as she knew, she was the first girl at her school (in a year group of 120) to have started.

One of the things she was very worried about was changing her pad at school.
Fortunately, she had access to single sex toilets with a sanitary bin in each cubicle. She was very sure that she didn't want the boys in her year group who she considered much less mature and who would never have to experience periods themselves, finding out that was was on her period.

OP - since you are having important discussions with your 10 year old, perhaps ask her how she'd feel about changing her sanitary pad in a toilet knowing that a person she knew who was the same age as her and, who had formerly identified as a boy, and would never have periods themselves, was in the next cubicle/observing the blood on her hands as she went to wash them?

OuterSpaceCadet · 19/05/2025 16:30

Yes children do often believe what trusted adults tell them. That vulnerability is precisely what groomers exploit. It's a reason why it's really important to use clear language and not euphemisms with kids. It's why working with kids carries a huge weight of responsibility.

OP your post was pretty hard to decifer. I'm unclear how having trans people as your friends justifies the use of a slur against one of the greatest socialist feminist philanthropists of our time. Not all trans people are misogynists you know.

EdithStourton · 19/05/2025 16:34

TangenitalContrivences · 19/05/2025 12:21

Don't play chess with pigeons.

There are a bloody lot of pigeons cooing and strutting and knocking over the pieces on FWR at the moment.

Bloody patronising pigeons, at that.

It's as if they're rallying after their recent defeat and trying to make us feel bad, stupid, guilty or ugly (depending on the thread and the pigeon).

OuterSpaceCadet · 19/05/2025 16:40

Actually OP, I'd go further and say it's dangerous to teach a child to automatically respect any category of human. Respect is earned, not demanded. Children should be allowed to listen to their own gut feelings.

TheKeatingFive · 19/05/2025 16:44

Is this a parody post, because I honestly can't tell any more

JellySaurus · 19/05/2025 16:49

You're late with your story of how to poison children's minds. James Clavell wrote it 30 years ago, and rather better than you.

The Children's Story

DrBlackbird · 19/05/2025 17:02

I was initially confused by the Op, but after reading some initial responses realised its a drive by scolding. At least I think that’s what it’s meant to be. So all you terf’s have been put in your place.

You don’t ‘get it’ and a 10 year old knows better than any of us. Knows better than any female who has ever been exposed to men identifying as women in a changing room, in the lingerie department, in a hospital ward, or rape relief centre, or in a sport. Knows better than any parent scared witless when a child says they’re the opposite sex and wants surgery and hormones.

The sanctimonious virtue signalling is impressive along with a clear illustration of why our daughters continue to fail to put their needs ahead of men. Depressing. Not to mention denying that child the brilliance of HP books and films.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 19/05/2025 17:16

Beowulfa · 19/05/2025 14:54

My mum saved herself a load of time by just saying No everytime I asked for sweets. Sometimes she even said No before I'd finished the request.

Ds2 came home from school one day with a very long list of reasons of why I should let him have a coke

as soon as he had finished i said yes…and he just stood there

then he said ‘this feels like a trap’

NPET · 19/05/2025 18:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2025 13:01

Exactly. I’m concerned that some people are giving their daughters the impression that men’s feelings come before their discomfort, dignity or ability to set boundaries.

Edited

A vg way of putting it.
We seem as women to be playing a game of snakes and ladders - we advance with a few rights that men have had for centuries, then we fall back by losing them because (some) men think we shouldn't have them!

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 18:30

Waitwhat23 · 19/05/2025 14:27

I'm now cursing the fact there are no chewy sweeties in this house at all.

Oh hang on, there might be some ancient astro belts in the cupboard....ah ha!

The sweets in that car are in the colours of the Irish national flag- I wonder why.
Maybe they are driving the snakes out of Ireland?🐍☘Grin

Even a 10 year old can understand it
Needspaceforlego · 19/05/2025 18:32

What do you call a Wookie with no teeth?,
A Gummie Bear 🐻

Stepfordian · 19/05/2025 19:04

So you don’t have any friends who are women then?

inkymoose · 19/05/2025 19:16

That's a terrible story. It's twee, arch, and boring, and doesn't have a beginning, middle or end that make the story consistent within its own world. You claim to have had "one of the important chats" with your ten-year-old daughter, but she is a mere prop in your unimaginative lecture about the Evils of Terfery, and the "important chat" doth not a story make, unless something else happened, which it didn't. Daughter did not get to say anything even mildly rude like "I don't care daddy! I just want my sweets now!" The reader never gets to find out which correctly packaged sweets she was allowed to have, and frankly, that is the most interesting bit.

I hope you are not a creative writing student.

P.S. I have a assumed that you are the father of this child because of your very awkward relationship with her in this story. However, I do realise that both of you are fictional, so it doesn't matter really.

Waitwhat23 · 19/05/2025 19:24

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 18:30

The sweets in that car are in the colours of the Irish national flag- I wonder why.
Maybe they are driving the snakes out of Ireland?🐍☘Grin

Gummy Worms Food GIF by Phyllis Ma

Snakes begone!

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 20/05/2025 09:08

Supporting abused women equals bullying in your world, then?

Blimey, the misogyny is blatant with this one.

Annoyedone · 20/05/2025 17:14

And the daughter’s name was……Albert Einstein 😂😂😂😂😂

Waitwhat23 · 20/05/2025 17:28

I'm still wondering which sweetie was deemed virtuous enough!

Glacier mints? Liquorice wheel? (Shudders) Parma Violets?

EweSurname · 20/05/2025 17:41

I had a chat with my DC about the epistemological nature of sex and whether it can be overridden by a postmodern framework in which language constructs its own reality. They said that Judith butler was talking bollocks and that material reality was the essential to maintaining coherent distinctions. Then everyone clapped.

JanesLittleGirl · 20/05/2025 19:42

This was a pretty piss-poor performance even by the depressingly low standard of plop and run posters that we have enjoyed endured over the years.