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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

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TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

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PriOn1 · 05/05/2025 18:03

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 05/05/2025 17:36

I don't actually think TERFs are that well organised compared to trans activists.

I mean, we're not the ones who commissioned a major law firm to produce a report on how to sneak all this stuff in by the back door, starting with male rapists in women's prisons. We're not the ones who had an incredibly rich and powerful lobby group "training" every major employer in the country in their version of the law and making them jump through ridiculous hoops to get a special Stonewall badge. We're not the ones who got senior politicians to say women can have penises, and the IOC to say that men compete in women's categories at the Olympics because "everyone agrees that trans women are women".

They were way more organised and way more cunning than us.

They're losing despite all that because they're wrong and insanely unreasonable and almost nobody agrees with them.

The point is that all that was achieved by a tiny number of highly restrained, cunning activists.

Their main error was that rather than keeping the privileges they achieved to the likes of themselves, they decided to extend it to anyone who cross dresses for any reason.

Once the information got out to the cross dressers and other perverts they, of course, spoiled it as anyone logical could have predicted.

Given the huge advantage they started with, they really have blown it quite spectacularly.

PriOn1 · 05/05/2025 18:05

Happyher · 05/05/2025 17:34

Let’s not put the wise or they’ll stop imploding

We’re quite safe. They cannot hear us.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/05/2025 18:05

most terfs I've seen are middle age + house wives etc with fuck all better to do than sit round and gossip and bitch about others while their husbands are busy fucking the lawn boy at the golf course

That does seem like a very American Reality TV take on life, maybe that's where the problem lies, they all rather watch life on TV than get on with actually living their lives. Time to turn the goggle box off kids, and get outside from some fresh air.

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 05/05/2025 18:08

When do I get my Heritage Foundation money please? I have a lawn boy to pay 😂

Bluebootsgreenboots · 05/05/2025 18:08

Well I guess all that organising school fairs has paid off, eh ladies?!

(I was going to quote my godmother who said ‘If you want something done, ask a busy person’ but someone else got there first!)

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/05/2025 18:12

I've only read the first two pages worth of comments because it's already seriously repetitive.

But, fuck me, that's a whole lot of DARVO going on!

They keep harping on about money, being well-funded - um, no-o! I've flung a few tenners into the various crowdfunders, and I expect I'm a fairly average contributor.

I've added an image of the one I find particularly DARVO - apparently we're well-connected, have been "infiltrating disproportionately powerful and influential scenes and building direct, personal relationships with power".

Yes dear; that's why we've had to fight against every political party, every police force, every newspaper (they would only report trans as victims never perpetrators), IPSO who insisted newspaper never mention trans except as victims and use preferred pronouns (or else!), the NHS, government departments, academia, local government, schools, colleges and universities. And banks, retailers, film, tv, theatres and libraries. (Did I miss any of the captured institutions? Oh yes, the fucking census!)

Transactivists had infiltrated etc. before most of us knew what was going on. Total fucking DARVO!

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”
PriOn1 · 05/05/2025 18:15

LonginesPrime · 05/05/2025 17:58

It’s because we’ve been fighting misogyny our whole lives, as have our mothers and grandmothers before us.

Their cause isn’t new to us - it’s just the same old repackaged men’s rights movement we’ve been training to wrestle with since childhood.

To be fair, many of us have wrestled toddlers, teens and abusive men, so as most transactivists channel one or more of those three things, it is something we’ve learned to deal with.

SalfordQuays · 05/05/2025 18:15

Chances are the middle aged women they’re so contemptuous of are probably the ones doing their laundry and washing their underwear, while they’re too busy playing Xbox to organise themselves !!

lollylo · 05/05/2025 18:15

Fascinating thread. Shall we have a hands up who in here has a fulltime job, kids of assorted ages, a house and a side order of elderly parents. If they read the bit of leftwing press we do have in the UK, they’d also know women in middle age have higher rates of disabilities then men in this age group and are usually poorer by quite some margin. Again, hands up who took a career break, went part time, lost their pension contributions or most of their wage as it was the one which had to be used ‘for the childcare’, or gave up on a career path so they could work flexibly.

Because this is the reality of all of my middle class and middle aged friends, all of them. Possibly the most time poor people I know and in precarious financial positions.

What we do have in common is a good education as women since the 1980s have tended to have higher levels of educational attainment and have outperformed men.

But of course, they only deal in truths.

Liked the responder who pointed out that they were highly focussed and didn't get caught up in infighting.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/05/2025 18:17

no, it's because we share our talking points at garden parties

wait!! Are you guys having garden parties and not inviting me?? I feel very rejected

DefineHappy · 05/05/2025 18:18

I can’t believe no one invited me to the garden parties. I feel so rejected 😭😭😭

DefineHappy · 05/05/2025 18:18

Snap!

Helleofabore · 05/05/2025 18:19

CassOle · 05/05/2025 17:09

MimTheWitch said this (my bolding) rather amusing load of crock: "Another advantage the TERFs have over us is that they aren't limited to telling the truth. The media don't want truth, they want controversy, views and clicks. Indeed the basic TERF premise, from which all others flow, that trans women are a special threat to cis women has no basis in reality. Once they lie about that, without getting called out on it by the media, then any other lie is fair to them. We are limited to telling the truth only, rigorously backed by stats, or be pilloried for it. If we call out one TERF lie, they'll scattergun a dozen more, so we are always on the back foot."

Imagine that eh?

Thinking that the feminists are lying.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/05/2025 18:20

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/05/2025 18:17

no, it's because we share our talking points at garden parties

wait!! Are you guys having garden parties and not inviting me?? I feel very rejected

you're missing out on the lawn boy as well

OverpricedCupcake · 05/05/2025 18:22

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

I saw that yesterday and proper laughed.
One of my guilty pleases is reading them having hysterics on Reddit.

ThisOpenMauveLurker · 05/05/2025 18:22

A LOT of this is evident (from Eco’s ur-Fascism):

“Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak". On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.”

MaidOfSteel · 05/05/2025 18:22

I’ve only read the first few posts on the Teddit thread by, my oh my, they’re exhibiting almost Harry & Markle levels of victimhood!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/05/2025 18:23

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/05/2025 18:20

you're missing out on the lawn boy as well

Goddamit!

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”
Helleofabore · 05/05/2025 18:24

I wanna go to the garden party!

Waitwhat23 · 05/05/2025 18:24

Oh, to be really in with the in crowd, you need to get a special handshake to invite you to the super secret cauldron parties where we practice our evil cackles and dive into our far right money alla Scrooge McDuck. Our pool boys are the ones filling the money pool.

PriOn1 · 05/05/2025 18:24

Full time job that takes more energy than it should, plus elderly parents.

Past child-rearing age, but have a chronic illness that also saps any remaining energy.

Edited to add “took a career break, went part time, lost their pension contributions or most of their wage as it was the one which had to be used ‘for the childcare’, or gave up on a career path so they could work flexibly.” All of this applies to me as well.

I guess what we have has evolved. We do now have some salaried women fighting our corner. They would have been working on other things, but transactivists lost them the jobs they used to have.

Many of us mostly watch while they organize and bung them a tenner when the latest court case comes up.

Igneococcus · 05/05/2025 18:28

'It's much easier to organise a group of 10 people than 200,000'

Hang on! I thought there was six of us. Who let four others join? Are they going to get a share of our wad of cash from the US right?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/05/2025 18:29

Just got to look at the pictures outside the courthouse when it was announced. All those celebrating with champagne were housewives of the wealthy or those who’ve taken (very) early retirement

crikey. you see I saw a diverse bunch of intelligent professional women from a variety of back grounds and with all sorts of other views, united by the knowledge that sex is real and sometimes important. and this reddit poster saw housewives and retired people. isn't it funny how differently we all see the world?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/05/2025 18:30

Igneococcus · 05/05/2025 18:28

'It's much easier to organise a group of 10 people than 200,000'

Hang on! I thought there was six of us. Who let four others join? Are they going to get a share of our wad of cash from the US right?

they're not coming to the fucking garden party

OverpricedCupcake · 05/05/2025 18:32

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/05/2025 18:29

Just got to look at the pictures outside the courthouse when it was announced. All those celebrating with champagne were housewives of the wealthy or those who’ve taken (very) early retirement

crikey. you see I saw a diverse bunch of intelligent professional women from a variety of back grounds and with all sorts of other views, united by the knowledge that sex is real and sometimes important. and this reddit poster saw housewives and retired people. isn't it funny how differently we all see the world?

Not sure how intelligent I am, and I'm definitely not professional, but I'm in this photo...

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”