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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

480 replies

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

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SueSuddio · 05/05/2025 19:58

I would say it's because our laws and rulings reflect what most people think.

It's been hugely telling to me that out of hundreds of Facebook friends only a literal few have posted out about how they disagree with the SC ruling.

They need to direct their anger at Stonewall for massively overreaching and leading to this situation where the supreme court had to soberly reach this conclusion.

DragonRunor · 05/05/2025 20:00

Apparently we’re really well funded - where’s my funding? 😆

DuesToTheDirt · 05/05/2025 20:01

@WhereYouLeftIt "they share their talking points at garden parties". Wait, what? Why did no one invite me?!

mrshoho · 05/05/2025 20:04

Well I've just sat my husband down and gave him a good scolding for hogging the Landboy and keeping him all to himself. Why does he get all the fun while I'm here drowning in my right wing billions.

HashtagLurky · 05/05/2025 20:05

I am very well-organised due to secretarial training and having two jobs plus caring responsibilities. Alas, I have a balcony and no current husband (the last one would undoubtedly be all over a pool boy, hence why he's history).

In all seriousness, the GI movement does not have rational thought on its side, nor deep thinkers. From long observation, it's also chock-full of characters who seem unable to prioritise spending beyond body modification (tattoos, piercings and poorly-chosen surgery) and other personal adornment that is as sartorially unwise as it is financially imprudent. They haven't two spare brass farthings to rub together, let alone donate to support their fellow travellers.

Daubing insults on placards isn't very wise. Issuing death-threats on social media is their fall-back strategy. These are deeply unserious people with questionable ideals. They are also horribly po-faced and humourless. None of those qualities are admirable and are losing them support fast. Operation Let Them Speak is working. That's why we're winning.

How delicious that they still don't get it.

Boiledbeetle · 05/05/2025 20:08

DragonRunor · 05/05/2025 20:00

Apparently we’re really well funded - where’s my funding? 😆

I have NO idea!

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”
NeedToChangeName · 05/05/2025 20:15

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 05/05/2025 17:23

It’s because the premise that two sexes exist is a fundamental reality to the majority of people.

The starting point was #bekind and I think people were happy to be kind until the liberal elite started forcing us to comply with a literny of falsehoods and I honestly think the bail in the coffin was the Scottish government bringing in a raft of charges that enabled a very unpleasant sex offender into a woman’s prison. That was enough to lose a Nichola Sturgeon her job and wake a lot of people up.

Yes Adam Graham aka Isla Bryson was a turning point for many

And Sandie Peggie case really brought it home to even more people

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/05/2025 20:17

CassOle · 05/05/2025 17:09

MimTheWitch said this (my bolding) rather amusing load of crock: "Another advantage the TERFs have over us is that they aren't limited to telling the truth. The media don't want truth, they want controversy, views and clicks. Indeed the basic TERF premise, from which all others flow, that trans women are a special threat to cis women has no basis in reality. Once they lie about that, without getting called out on it by the media, then any other lie is fair to them. We are limited to telling the truth only, rigorously backed by stats, or be pilloried for it. If we call out one TERF lie, they'll scattergun a dozen more, so we are always on the back foot."

My sides. That really is funny.

Dymaxion · 05/05/2025 20:19

wait!! Are you guys having garden parties and not inviting me?? I feel very rejected

@Theeyeballsinthesky its only 10 people who are able to attend these sort of events, according to Reddits finest social commentators, so maybe we just weren't Terfy enough, or maybe its a ballot like a marathon ?

Waitwhat23 · 05/05/2025 20:20

teawamutu · 05/05/2025 19:41

[Narrator: they did not, in fact, have beautiful handmade signs. Their signs were at best ridiculous clichés on cacky bits of cardboard, and at worst horrible misogynistic threats.]

Their signs are always shit, aren't they? Dog eared bits of cardboard torn off their latest Amazon delivery and scrawled on biro.

Whereas ours are a thing of beauty (and don't contain death threats!)

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”
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teawamutu · 05/05/2025 20:20

Boiledbeetle · 05/05/2025 19:49

But look at the way they've carefully and neatly made the decapitate terfs sign! And the excellent guillotine drawing!

Misogyny on shitty cardboard.

Regardless of careful pastel lettering of days misogyny, I rest my case.

alsoFanOfNaomi · 05/05/2025 20:22

That thread's the funniest thing I've read all week, thank you OP.

A lot of it does come down to time management and a dash of critical thinking, doesn't it? Though I'll admit I'm happy that the (still v underpaid) salary that is the reward for decades of working on time management and critical thinking sometimes comes in handy when there's gardening to be done.

Sigh, still have to find time to write to my MP though - Sex Matters say do it today. Midnight will do, right?

Scout2016 · 05/05/2025 20:23

Who are the evangelical American/ right wing companies funding legal actions? I've never heard specifics. We have JKR gave £70 grand, which is no secret, and that's it. End of detail. No "church of blah blah gave X amount to Y case", "Such-and-such Right Wing Organisation gave..."

Is it the fact they are so sucked into American forums? Like how Emily Bridges says JKR should put her money into campaigns for our abortion rights?

Why can't they accept it's regular women giving bits here and there? The evidence is there on the crowd funding pages, dates amounts and comments. Is that too scary to consider, the fact that there isn't some rich overlord and there's actually nothing stopping them doing the same? Or that there are so many of us that even with small donations we can manage we can fund all these cases?

Swashbuckled · 05/05/2025 20:24

Thanks, OP; I thought the Reddit thread was very amusing.

I also liked what I perceived to be a sense of chaos gathering among them. And, dare I say it, a hint of emerging acceptance that the game is up. (May be wishful thinking on my part, but the grumbles about them never having as much right wing funding as us, and not a comparable amount of garden parties to attend, could have been the beginning of acceptance.)

Waitwhat23 · 05/05/2025 20:26

Scout2016 · 05/05/2025 20:23

Who are the evangelical American/ right wing companies funding legal actions? I've never heard specifics. We have JKR gave £70 grand, which is no secret, and that's it. End of detail. No "church of blah blah gave X amount to Y case", "Such-and-such Right Wing Organisation gave..."

Is it the fact they are so sucked into American forums? Like how Emily Bridges says JKR should put her money into campaigns for our abortion rights?

Why can't they accept it's regular women giving bits here and there? The evidence is there on the crowd funding pages, dates amounts and comments. Is that too scary to consider, the fact that there isn't some rich overlord and there's actually nothing stopping them doing the same? Or that there are so many of us that even with small donations we can manage we can fund all these cases?

Lorna Slater made herself look a right numpty when she made such claims and an FOI was done....

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scottish-government-cannot-back-up-26961353

Scottish Government can't back up Lorna Slater's right wing group funding claims

Exclusive: For Women Scotland released details of a FOI request where they asked the SNP/Green government about what groups are getting funded by American right-wing organisations.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scottish-government-cannot-back-up-26961353

Dymaxion · 05/05/2025 20:29

Why can't they accept it's regular women giving bits here and there?

Because they look down on regular women, we aren't doing womaning nearly as well as they do, plus who has ever cared about regular women ? We are just the boring back office staff who make sure everything runs smoothly, finds stuff and deals with all the major and minor catastrophies that an ordinary life throws the way of everyone. Shame on us !

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 20:31

This one:

“Most trans people are working class, poor, struggle with employment, people of colour etc and TERFs are almost 100% middle class white women funded by an extremely rich middle class white woman (no, she was never working class, she just lived with a rich relative at one point) and rich hate orgs like the Heritage Foundation. Money and privilege get you extremely far. They have far fewer people than us but they're funded by millionaires and billionaires and were passing around the same £10 to help other trans people eat and have a roof over their heads

They're also very single issue and more tolerant of intolerance. I won't be friends with white supremacist 4channers just because they're trans, TERFs have no such issues with their nazi bedmates (see: KJK)”

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PriOn1 · 05/05/2025 20:33

HashtagLurky · 05/05/2025 20:05

I am very well-organised due to secretarial training and having two jobs plus caring responsibilities. Alas, I have a balcony and no current husband (the last one would undoubtedly be all over a pool boy, hence why he's history).

In all seriousness, the GI movement does not have rational thought on its side, nor deep thinkers. From long observation, it's also chock-full of characters who seem unable to prioritise spending beyond body modification (tattoos, piercings and poorly-chosen surgery) and other personal adornment that is as sartorially unwise as it is financially imprudent. They haven't two spare brass farthings to rub together, let alone donate to support their fellow travellers.

Daubing insults on placards isn't very wise. Issuing death-threats on social media is their fall-back strategy. These are deeply unserious people with questionable ideals. They are also horribly po-faced and humourless. None of those qualities are admirable and are losing them support fast. Operation Let Them Speak is working. That's why we're winning.

How delicious that they still don't get it.

Some of them have spent money propping up Jolyon and the Judge. That may be as sartorially unwise as it is financially imprudent, but it isn’t a personal adornment.

Personally, I think we’re winning because of all the boys. We now have a game boy, a lawn boy, a pool boy and a land boy. We’re going to have a lovely garden party!

MarieDeGournay · 05/05/2025 20:49

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/05/2025 18:43

Just got to look at the pictures outside the courthouse when it was announced. All those celebrating with champagne were housewives of the wealthy or those who’ve taken (very) early retirement

Completely failing to mention that the 3 women who brought the case were lesbians, and therefore part of the 'community' they claim to speak for.

They were? All three of them??

My gaydar obviously needs re-calibrating - it already nearly blew up when it found out that ...somebody, no names no pack-drill.. has a husband, I thought it was a misprintConfused
Can anybody recommend a good metrology company that does ISO 17025 certified calibration, preferably a next-day service, this is an emergency!!
Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/05/2025 20:52

It’s a truly delusional thread even by Reddit standards.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 05/05/2025 20:52

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 20:31

This one:

“Most trans people are working class, poor, struggle with employment, people of colour etc and TERFs are almost 100% middle class white women funded by an extremely rich middle class white woman (no, she was never working class, she just lived with a rich relative at one point) and rich hate orgs like the Heritage Foundation. Money and privilege get you extremely far. They have far fewer people than us but they're funded by millionaires and billionaires and were passing around the same £10 to help other trans people eat and have a roof over their heads

They're also very single issue and more tolerant of intolerance. I won't be friends with white supremacist 4channers just because they're trans, TERFs have no such issues with their nazi bedmates (see: KJK)”

This thread has been a revelation, in the last ten minutes alone I've discovered that I've gone up a class bracket, become a ton richer and not been invited to any bloody garden parties.

BackToLurk · 05/05/2025 20:52

ThatCyanCat · 05/05/2025 19:17

Or millions of people didn't like what they saw!

Well quite. As with TRAs

Q: Why are we less popular?
A: Because people have eyes

Hoppinggreen · 05/05/2025 20:52

Boiledbeetle · 05/05/2025 20:08

I have NO idea!

I thought we were Rights Hoarding Dinosaurs but it turns out we are Money Hoarding Beetles
I am SHOOK. Now hand me my G&T, Lawnboy!

SionnachRuadh · 05/05/2025 20:55

With the Trans UK subreddit I never know whether to laugh or feel sad. This is one of their more amusing threads.

"Why are terfs better organised than us?" ask a community of young people who can't even.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/05/2025 20:57

PaintDecisions · 05/05/2025 18:32

It's a very sad reddit community tbh. It's a closed shop where moderates and progressives who truly aren't "TWAW" are ridiculed and kicked out. These forums are exactly how people become radicalised, especially when they jump straight onto the newbies seeking support. It's a fast shift into "your parents hate you, you need to emancipate yourself" and I do worry about the safety of people they are clearly messaging off the boards.

That thread alone shows the lack of critical thinking about any of it, the swallowing of the propaganda about RW funding and low levels of intellect tbh.

There are so many young teens on there.