“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

[TheIsleOfTERF]

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

Of course you scrub up well - those Far Right millions buy a lot of ball gowns and Lawn Boy beetle-wranglers

The question that's been tugging my sleeve is: Do they actually know what we think? If one were to ask a random commenter on that subreddit, would one get an accurate summary of the GC position?

I know the lovely women (and men) of this board could summarise the TRA perspective in a way they would consider accurate.

But can they do the same for us?

I wonder if those two questions perhaps have different answers (for some at least). They know the GC position but they would never say it out loud. Although I think for a lot of them they've never really given it too much thought and would just turn off the minute they felt invalidated so will have never heard and taken in the GC argument.

Thanks. I have very limited internet so didn’t manage to find and check it.

This is a good point. For all I have happily joked about having a lawn boy (despite not actually having a lawn), the casual homophobia and misogyny (TERFs are so unattractive our husbands are driven elsewhere) really oozes from the post. These are not nice people. They are not inclusive people. While I am perfectly happy to believe there are genuinely nice people with gender dysphoria (& we have seen some examples of that in this board in recent days) the TRAs are deeply deeply unpleasant and disturbed.

Have just read a long thread by Malcolm Clark on X, who looks a lot at the history of this whole…thing. The homophobia was baked in, right from the get-go:

https://nitter.net/TwisterFilm/status/1480382480595230721#m

You make a valid point about TERFs infighting - the Tunnocks Teacakes v. Tunnocks Wafers split got quite ugly at one point.

Just don't mention warm Weetabix.

Because it's rank

As a middle aged husband, I can confirm we are all at the golf course, fucking the lawn boy. Every last one of us. It's like the last days of Rome on the 11th hole.

Especially not with bananas not envy

Why are they so convinced by this narrative that every GC person is a sad middle aged, middle class house wife who has been sheltered her whole life?

I’m in my 20’s, disabled, and grew up extremely poor working class.

I’m an atheist and my best friend is a gay man (who feels the same way).

I’m sure they’d argue I was lying though.

No. It’s all hyperbolic claims about erasure.
I don’t think they could summarise that women want to preserve their own single sex spaces and to uphold safeguarding for women and children.

They don’t see that many women don’t give a shit about upholding gender norms for themselves or anyone else, so long as biological sex differences and disparities are at all times respected.

And they are definitely willing to not tackle the misogyny, homophobia, and specifically lesbophobia that is central in their own regressive politics.

50 people to a cell would be totally cray-cray, can you imagine the organisational damage if a cell that big (and them being women, that networked) got infiltrated or taken down? The old lady groups I'm in all top out at a couple of dozen, with sub-cells of 4-6.

The knitters, the quilters, the crochet mob, the 'I'll just sit and chat' people (very useful), the make-the-tea crew. We are many, we are strong, but 50 would be too much.

I mostly lurk, but have plucked up some courage to post here. I was just thinking about the accusation that we are all bored housewives. Even if we were all housewives, it doesn't follow that we are therefore wrong.

As someone who, due to various complications in my life, is a SAHM and housewife, it's been interesting to read everyone distancing themselves from that accusation as though through housewifery, one's opinion and thoughts are less worthy. I'm guilty of it myself at times often starting my sentences with 'I'm just a housewife and even I...'

It was just something I noticed.

It’s a cope.

Thank you for the link, this looks like a very interesting, very thorough piece of research by Malcolm Clark - also very long, so I'll read it in full ASAP.

Rewriting history to 'trans' it is one of the underhand tactics used by TRAs, to give the false impression that 'there have always been transgender people, get over it'.

It looks like Clark as done a great job of looking back at the history how the T attached itself to the LGB.
Unfortunately, it will probably be waved away as transphobic lies - the trans movement operates in such a post-factual environment that anything, even the Cass Review, can be dismissed as the work of bigots.🙄

Some do undoubtedly, but for the younger ones I doubt they even realise they are doing it. It's more like women bring a new concept to their attention, subconsciously they recognise it and realise it's bad, and it later emerges as a projection on to us because we are all bad things to them.

A sort of subconscious version of the playground "I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you"

You have clearly gone to extreme lengths to disguise your facism! How radical are you?
😂

I think a lot of these people have cluster B personality disorders and this kind of behaviour goes with the territory.

I know. Imagine the washing up.

ThatCyanCat · Today 07:26

Oh! I recognise that film! It's the one about the great white, which identified as a basking shark and had definitely had the tooth operation.

Gums, wasn't it?

Terf secret weapon, village hall dishwashers, eat your hearts out lawn boys.

That's an interesting read thank you. I especially like this comment of Malcolm's re: the trans movement:

"Denying the truth about yourself is good training for denying the truth in general"

I don't think anyone has an issue with housewives (other than TRAs), it's the bored part. Unless you're wealthy enough to employ cleaners, nannies, lawn boys etc. etc. I highly doubt any housewife is "bored" in the sitting around doing nothing sense. I shared my experience as a single working mum to illustrate that I'm effing busy, not to distance myself from being a housewife. Being a SAHM is an incredibly demanding and important role in society and nobody is looking down their nose at that part - at least they shouldn't be!

Thanks for posting that film of the The Laughing Auditor. Really interesting.

I saw a similar Youtuber, Wesley Winter, get a similar treatment which was really eerie. He goes to protests and asks people why they have come out. I thought he asked good questions - and to start with he gets some good answers but eventually the reaction turns nasty:

He also did one about Let Women Speak previously.