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JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!

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Imnobody4 · 03/05/2025 20:36

I've copied it in full.
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1918747065460420745?t=bPXQ2pY9VAwPPqFR26_vvw&s=19

In light of recent open letters from academia and the arts criticising the UK's Supreme Court ruling on sex-based rights, it's possibly worth remembering that nobody sane believes, or has ever believed, that humans can change sex, or that binary sex isn't a material fact. These letters do nothing but remind us of what we know only too well: that pretending to believe these things has become an elitist badge of virtue.

I often wonder whether the signatories of such letters have to quieten their consciences before publicly boosting a movement intent on removing women's and girls' rights, which bullies gay people who admit openly they don't want opposite sex partners, and campaigns for the continued sterilisation of vulnerable and troubled kids. Do they feel any qualms at all while chanting the foundational lie of their religion: Trans Women are Women, Trans Men are Men?

I have no idea. All I know for sure is that it's a complete waste of time telling a gender activist that their favourite slogan is self-contradictory nonsense, because the lie is the whole point. They're not repeating it because it's true - they know full well it's not true - but because they believe they can make it true, sort of, if they force everyone else to agree. The foundational lie functions as both catechism and crucifix: the set form of words that obviates the tedious necessity of coming up with your own explanation of why you're one of the Godly, and an exorcist's weapon which will defeat demonic facts and reason, and promote the advance of righteous pseudoscience and sophistry.

Some argue that signatories of these sorts of letters are motivated by fear: fear for their careers, of course, but also fear of their co-religionists, who include angry, narcissistic men who threaten and sometimes enact violence on non-believers; back-stabbing colleagues ever ready to report wrongthink; the online shamers and doxxers and rape threateners, and, of course, the influential zealots in the upper echelons of liberal professions (though we can quibble whether they're actually liberal at all, given the draconian authoritarianism that seems to have engulfed so many). Gender ideology could give medieval Catholicism a run for its money when it comes to punishing heretics, so isn't it common sense to keep your head down and recite your Hail Mulvaneys?

But before we start feeling too sorry for any cowed and fearful TWAWites who're TERFy on the sly, let's not forget what a high proportion of them have willingly snatched up pitchforks and torches to join the inquisitional purges. Call me lacking in proper womanly sympathy, but I find the harm they've enabled and in some cases directly championed or funded - the hounding and shaming of vulnerable women, the forced loss of livelihoods, the unregulated medical experiment on minors - tends to dry up my tears at source.

History is littered with the debris of irrational and harmful belief systems that once seemed unassailable. As Orwell said, 'Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.' Gender ideology may have embedded itself deeply into our institutions, where it's been imposed, top-down, on the supposedly unenlightened, but it is not invulnerable.

Court losses are starting to stack up. The condescension, overreach, entitlement and aggression of gender activists is eroding public support daily. Women are fighting back and winning significant victories. Sporting bodies have miraculously awoken from their slumber and remembered that males tend to be larger, stronger and faster than females. Parts of the medical establishment are questioning cutting healthy breasts off teenaged girls is really the best way to fix their mental health problems.

One seemingly harmless little white lie - Trans Women are Women, Trans Men are Men - uttered in most cases without any real thought at all, and a few short years later, people who think of themselves as supremely virtuous are typing 'yes, rapists' pronouns are absolutely the hill I'll die on,' rubbing shoulders with those who call for women to be hanged and decapitated for wanting all-female rape crisis centres, and furiously denying clear and mounting evidence of the greatest medical scandal in a century.

I wonder if they ever ask themselves how they got here, and I wonder whether any of them will ever feel shame.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1918747065460420745?s=19&t=bPXQ2pY9VAwPPqFR26_vvw

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 04/05/2025 12:32

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:27

Yes. Posters are saying that trans women who rape women are being referred to in the press as women. If that's so, why am I not reading news stories about women attacking women? Meaning not bio women attacking bio women, but trans women being reported as women...attacking women. Why aren't I reading about woman-on-woman sex crime, if there are so many TW offenders and they are being reported merely as women, not TW?

What everyone on here is trying to tell you is that they are being. And women have had to refer to their rapists in court as “she” and state “her penis.” It has been happening, is what we’re trying to say.

So either we have all lost our collective minds, or you just don’t get out much. GO AND GOOGLE IT! Go think for yourself, this sticking your head in the sand and saying “well I never heard of that” makes you sound like the women who say “well my husband doesn’t hit me, so I can’t believe that any other woman’s husband would hit her.” You are so beyond condescending it is abhorrent.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 04/05/2025 12:33

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:27

Yes. Posters are saying that trans women who rape women are being referred to in the press as women. If that's so, why am I not reading news stories about women attacking women? Meaning not bio women attacking bio women, but trans women being reported as women...attacking women. Why aren't I reading about woman-on-woman sex crime, if there are so many TW offenders and they are being reported merely as women, not TW?

I don't know why you're not reading this.

Perhaps you missed it.

Keeptoiletssafe · 04/05/2025 12:33

It’s a difficult one, knowing when to stop replying to a poster. But when I give examples that involve thousands of women and children and the poster pops up with an individual example, I think they really aren’t arguing that well. Or listening.

I have listened and continue to engage as I want to find solutions for everyone. This is why, after years of research, I have got to the point I have.

But just once more for the hard of listening:
Single sex toilets with door gaps are the best for everyone’s safety. Mixed sex designs do not contain door gaps so are not as safe.

DefineHappy · 04/05/2025 12:34

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:09

People who have fully transitioned look extremely different from people who have had no transition at all. That's how you can tell.

Really?
According to your definition, only one of these people would be allowed to be in women’s spaces.

JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!
JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 04/05/2025 12:34

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:19

Penis and testes removed, breast implants, and longterm oestrogen therapy that's enough to feminise the man. We have all seen photographs of men post-therapy who look just like women.

Like this one: Navya Singh, a TW and competitor in Miss Universe India.

Take the soft filters off and the lighting and the image manipulation, show me his hands and feet and how he walks, he’s a man.

spannasaurus · 04/05/2025 12:34

The judges benchbook until recently required rape victims to refer to their male rapists as she in court

FlakyCritic · 04/05/2025 12:35

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:19

Penis and testes removed, breast implants, and longterm oestrogen therapy that's enough to feminise the man. We have all seen photographs of men post-therapy who look just like women.

Like this one: Navya Singh, a TW and competitor in Miss Universe India.

You realise none of them actually look like that in real life, right? That it's photo shop and filters? Or did you really buy it?

Oestrogen therapy does not change height, size of hands/feet, limb length, facial bone structure, lack of hips etc. Oestrogen really does nothing at all, except make your grow breasts and not grow a beard. It doesn't change your voice, your gait or your body.

Innisfree · 04/05/2025 12:36

A friend of mine is one of the three women who led the Supreme Court action for FWS. She is phenomenal and I’m so, so proud of her. And grateful. What an enormous amount of blood, sweat and tears went into this fight over many years! Thank God for JK and her support…financially and otherwise. It may not have been possible without it.

Booboobagins · 04/05/2025 12:36

JKR is not 100% correct though is she?

There are people who feel like they are the wrong sex and want to transition to change this. They are not all criminals and rapists. Scientifically/medically there may be greater understanding of this soon but I feel we're not quite there - some people think it's a form of dystopia, but that i's not yet a conclusive diagnosis.

Yes women's rights need protecting, but so does people who really fwel they are the wrong sexand want to transition. What we don't yet have is create the legislation and environment to make this safe for women and transmen. This should be the focus of all efforts alongside diagnosis and treatment options.

We do need to stop allowing children to medically transition though.

Shortshriftandlethal · 04/05/2025 12:36

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:19

Penis and testes removed, breast implants, and longterm oestrogen therapy that's enough to feminise the man. We have all seen photographs of men post-therapy who look just like women.

Like this one: Navya Singh, a TW and competitor in Miss Universe India.

Those sorts of shots are always posed in the same way......once you zoom out and see the person in the flesh; the way they move; their height and build; their gait etc.....the sex becomes more evident.

KnottyAuty · 04/05/2025 12:37

Replying to @TwoLoonsAndASprout regarding the Kent hospital trans identifying male attack on a female patient which the NHS denied

Here is the coverage in the House of Lords:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2022-03-16a.427.0&s=adult+care

"However, a rather wonderful lady—I cannot say who she is—was raped in hospital by a man about a year ago. There is only one definition of rape in Britain and that is male on female; you cannot rape if you do not have the structure of a male. She was raped and she naturally reported it to the police. The police spoke to the hospital, which informed them that there was no male in the hospital, therefore the rape could not have happened. They forgot that there was CCTV, nurses and observers. None the less, it has taken nearly a year for the hospital to agree that there was a male on the ward and, yes, this rape happened. It is on record—I know where the case happened, who the police are and where the hospital is. I know everything about it because she gave me the full case to make sure I knew that what she was saying was true.

During that year she has almost come to the edge of a nervous breakdown, because being disbelieved about being raped in hospital has been such an appalling shock. The hospital, with all its CCTV, has had to admit that the rape happened and that it was committed by a man. The police have therefore changed their tune and become enormously supportive and helpful, and the case is going ahead. However, this has arisen directly from annexe B. The result of annexe B is that hospital trusts inform ward sisters and nurses that if there is a male, as a trans person, in a female ward, and a female patient or anyone complains, they must be told that it is not true—there is no male there. I refer there to the duty of candour in the National Health Service. I think it is completely wrong that the National Health Service should be instructing or allowing staff to mislead patients—to tell a straightforward lie. It is not acceptable. The National Health Service is admired globally and the duty of candour makes it imperative that it should be frank, open and honest with the patients, yet trust after trust has informed its staff that they must say the opposite of the truth when this situation arises. The impact on my new friend is appalling"

Here is the coverage from 2022 & 2023 (after the 2021 attack):

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/17/hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-alleged-attacker-transgender/

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/hospital-dismissed-claim-of-rape-by-trans-attacker-bssxvbqch

https://www.economist.com/britain/2023/10/12/why-british-politicians-are-defending-women-only-spaces

https://www.gbnews.com/news/hospital-staff-told-police-their-patient-was-not-raped-as-alleged-attacker-was-transgender-despite-cctv-showing-assault-in-ward/250941

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744

Note the complete absence of coverage from the left leaning media. It is the complete lack of coverage or completely obfuscated coverage which peaked me. I feel betrayed by the media. So if one of the PPs here says they haven't seen anything in the media, that does not mean to say it has not been happening. It was for that reason (which I couldn't believe) that I tuned in to listen to the Peggie tribunal and I was completely shocked at what I heard with my own ears - and then to see the words misrepresented by the BBC who I had trusted. They twisted the words to suit their political agenda and it was not neutral. I expect that from the Daily Mail - but not the BBC. Or the Guardian. Not being able to believe the media. For me that has been one of the biggest scary things in all of this.

woolens · 04/05/2025 12:37

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:28

You would never, in a million years, have known that she's a TW if I hadn't told you. She looks completely female.

We can speculate on that - and if he can successfully deceive people into thinking he's a woman outside of a cropped and filtered photo - but the fact remains that he is a man.

That he is expressing femininity doesn't mean he has become a woman.

It's like how two people in a pantomime horse costume aren't actually a horse, even if they're performing equininity.

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:38

thirdfiddle · 04/05/2025 12:30

Oh stuckup, look at the filters on that picture. Look at the careful angling and hair draping so you can't see the breadth of the person's shoulders.

I don't want to share pictures of non passing transwomen but the vast majority far from passing in a bad light as women, are indistinguishable from non transitioned men, unless you sign up to stereotypes about men not being allowed to have long hair or makeup.

She looks 100% feminine, and she doesn't have broad shoulders.

JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!
JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!
JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!
Helleofabore · 04/05/2025 12:38

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:31

I'm not understanding your reaction. My question is logical.

  1. Most sex attackers are trans women, according to the chart someone posted.
  2. Media is reporting TW sex attackers as being women, not trans women.
  3. Therefore, I should be regularly reading reports of women sexually attacking other women, should I not?

You obviously have a very limited reading choice.

You don’t seem to know much about male cancer and the treatments for them.

And it has missed you completely that there has been a history of male people with transgender identities being reported and recorded as being female attackers in the news and in court.

You are unexposed to women’s needs in toilets shared spaces and how women use toilets. Including the need for the gap under the door.

You cannot acknowledge that you declaring that to be transgender a male person has to fit your personal criteria is considered transphobic by many.

Yet, last night you declared that JK Rowling and the Supreme Court are transphobic.

Do you begin to see why people have stated your posts are illogical and contradictory.

Helleofabore · 04/05/2025 12:38

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:38

She looks 100% feminine, and she doesn't have broad shoulders.

You know this person in real life?

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 04/05/2025 12:38

@woolens

performing equininity

👏👏👏👏

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:38

woolens · 04/05/2025 12:37

We can speculate on that - and if he can successfully deceive people into thinking he's a woman outside of a cropped and filtered photo - but the fact remains that he is a man.

That he is expressing femininity doesn't mean he has become a woman.

It's like how two people in a pantomime horse costume aren't actually a horse, even if they're performing equininity.

Agree that she's not exactly the same as a bio woman, no, but she's also not the same as a regular man, imo.

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:39

Helleofabore · 04/05/2025 12:38

You know this person in real life?

No, I posted three more photos, which aren't up yet.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 04/05/2025 12:39

woolens · 04/05/2025 12:21

What I feel she's got wrong is framing those who promote this toxic ideology as being liars. Like any cult movement, there are many who truly, genuinely believe it.

I'm not saying she should shut up at all! I'm just disagreeing with her on this point.

They are liars, whether they genuinely believe it or not, because what they’re saying is not true, what’s the opposite of the truth? It’s a lie isn’t it?

Is Donald Trump a stable genius? He genuinely believes he is, he says it all the time, but he’s obviously lying isn’t he, because he’s neither stable nor a genius by any definition?

Are you saying that lying is acceptable if those doing the lying say that they honestly, truly believe what they’re saying? Because they way madness lies.

Helleofabore · 04/05/2025 12:39

Innisfree · 04/05/2025 12:36

A friend of mine is one of the three women who led the Supreme Court action for FWS. She is phenomenal and I’m so, so proud of her. And grateful. What an enormous amount of blood, sweat and tears went into this fight over many years! Thank God for JK and her support…financially and otherwise. It may not have been possible without it.

Fantastic!!! Those three women are awesome.

KnottyAuty · 04/05/2025 12:40

Keeptoiletssafe · 04/05/2025 12:33

It’s a difficult one, knowing when to stop replying to a poster. But when I give examples that involve thousands of women and children and the poster pops up with an individual example, I think they really aren’t arguing that well. Or listening.

I have listened and continue to engage as I want to find solutions for everyone. This is why, after years of research, I have got to the point I have.

But just once more for the hard of listening:
Single sex toilets with door gaps are the best for everyone’s safety. Mixed sex designs do not contain door gaps so are not as safe.

I hear you!
Keep up the good work! 😘

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:40

Helleofabore · 04/05/2025 12:38

You know this person in real life?

Oh - they're up there now. Scroll up.

Shortshriftandlethal · 04/05/2025 12:40

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:31

I'm not understanding your reaction. My question is logical.

  1. Most sex attackers are trans women, according to the chart someone posted.
  2. Media is reporting TW sex attackers as being women, not trans women.
  3. Therefore, I should be regularly reading reports of women sexually attacking other women, should I not?

In recent times there has indeed an uptick in reports of crimes, including sexual crimes having been committed by 'women'. This is down to the journalistic practice of reporting using preferred pronouns. There have been some quite high profile/well publicised cases ...such as the two 'women' who supposedly attacked a young man in Sussex and left him unconscious.

One of the 'women' was reportedly over 6ft tall, and the other had long, pink hair......

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 04/05/2025 12:41

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 09:54

Yes.

I hope that society solves this dreadful culture war with third spaces. It's obvious that they are very much needed.

I wonder if places will move away from the current toilet model which is one large room containing lots of cubicles, to lots of separate and totally enclosed loos that everyone uses, like you get in Waterstone's and Starbucks. Swimming pools and sports centres should have separate rooms for transpeople, and I wouldn't have thought hospitals and prisons would have any trouble designating spaced for trans people, if they wanted to.

Do an Advanced Search for @KeepToiletsSafe because she has written several times about how she once rescued someone who had passed out and stopped breathing in a loo. She was only able to recognise this and intervene because a blue hand was visible in the gap under the door. Door gaps are vital for the safety of epileptic people, people prone to fainting, and anyone who heads to the loo to throw up and chokes on their own vomit. They also allow us to detect and intervene if a sexual assault is taking place in a cubicle.

StuckUpPrincess · 04/05/2025 12:41

KnottyAuty · 04/05/2025 12:40

I hear you!
Keep up the good work! 😘

Yes, and after that @Keeptoiletssafe poster said her piece, I said let all the toilets have gaps under, then.

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