Does anyone else feel disheartened?

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I was so elated at the ruling and the implications for women's sex-based protections.

And I am happy that certain media outlets have realised (begrudgingly in some cases) that refusing to air the concerns of women over the last decade has lead to a very one-sided debate. It's great to see orgs such as Sex Matters being quoted so extensively now.

However, I'm really disheartened by the sheer scale of the push back and by the fact that so many women don't support the ruling. I mean, why would anyone think that women don't deserve fair and safe sporting opportunities, for example? Why is it always women that are expected to forgo their rights?

The Supreme Court ruling should be definitive, but it doesn't feel like the end. There is the judge bringing the case to the ECHR (I know some legal experts have dismissed any chances of success), but I think activists are going to pile a lot of pressure on the government to make concessions and look at amending the law. The disquiet about the ruling amongst so many Labour MPs about the ruling is concerning me.

Is anyone else feeling a bit dejected?

Some were thrown out of their homes with just the clothes on their backs when they came out to their families.
Oh don't rely on making shit up now, you've done enough of that

Russell Brand is a TRA. And pretty standard of one.

Oh I see, so the scum of your society didn't threaten to burn women alive, to skin us, to rape us with barbed wire baseball bats and DIDN'T URINATE ON A FEMINIST MONUMENT 2 WEEKS AGO, right? Right? The are the vile despicable, disgusting slimy scum that is your section. You're all what you hang with, I hope you're proud! And you fucking wonder WHY you're losing public support!!!:

No one wants to eliminate 'trans'. It's about eliminating MALES from female spaces. You don't get to relabel or rebadge males a 'trans' and think that makes you a sacred group. As much as you want to eliminate and erase females as a group and as a vulnerable sex class.

Russell Brand is a rapey-wapey creepy-crawly and he supports the SC ruling and the sports bans

"Firstly, many adolescents if left untreated with "gender affirming care" grow out of their trans identity."

Very true. Personally, I think hormones and surgeries should only be available for adults, and not even young ones.

"Secondly, it might relieve the distress of believing that you are Napoleon Bonaparte to be dressed up in 19th century French clothing and exiled to St Helena, but we don't do that. Why not? Surely it would be the kind thing to do?"

Well, there's the physical impossibility: it's just not possible to send those people to St Helena and take care of them there.

More seriously: as far as I know, delusions don't generally appear in such an isolated form. They are usually part of a greater disorder, and it's this disorder which needs treating, because of its immense impact on the quality of life of the sufferer. Fighting the delusion then becomes only one arm of the strategy in fighting the illness.

Gender dysphoria, on the contrary, seems to come alone. It's not part of a greater pattern. It's not just one symptom of a more invasive illness. So it's not comparable.

Quit your fanciful gaslighting

Keira Bell? You mean the poor girl that was exploited by the trans cult and amputated her breasts and has damaged her body with dangerous chemicals and has been a flag bearer for how dangerous that vile sick child abusive cult is? Yes, no wonder you don't like her.

And here Dad is trivialising sexual assault.

Operation Let Them Speak has been a resounding success.

"The Declaration on Women's Sex-Based Rights" says otherwise. "Elimination" is the word they use.

So you ADMIT this is about hating womens rights.

The attempt by MadBadDaddy to DARVO that abusive men are more likely to support women’s sex based rights than the most misogynistic movement of modern times is really quite something.

Of course.

I think the SC ruling has made things worse - before ds was totally on board with us - now he's totally on the other side - there's no law against males entering a woman's toilet, what's changed - it's a minority tiny number of people how do you know who is a man and who is a woman - toilets seem the full focus.

Are you saying that only people who have obtained a GD diagnostic and gone through the NHS for (I presume) hormones and/or surgery, can be trans?

Comorbidities have been routinely dismissed and overlooked. That's a massive part of the problem.

Yet as polls prove, the overwhelming majority agree with us, and you are losing the war. Tribunal by tribunal, sport by sport, law by law. You misogynist femphobic bigots need to go away and cope and seethe. You're losing. The overwhelming majority of society are against you removing womens rights. You're losing. In 20 years time, when this dangerous and sick misogynistic social contagion is over, what are you going to do then.

Toilets are not the full focus. The media and TRAs have focussed on toilets.

What we are seeing here is some real time rage explosion because he can no longer crap all over women and be lauded as a progressive hero for it while women are traduced and silenced.

I don't think he is actually a transwoman, just a dude who got applauded for misogyny for (six) years and is losing his shit because it's all collapsing.

You are literally arguing that you are a man who is a woman. I don't think I could imagine a more 'gaslighting' position.

Yeah. I've learned about autism here. I wonder what else there might be. Do you know where I could find more information about that?

Trampling women's boundaries is absolutely what men entering women's loos do. Stating fact isn't dehumanising, nor is it gaslighting.

Yeah, because it's so 'hateful' for the "vulnerable 'minority' " of males to be stopped from entering female only sensitive safe single sex spaces and cheating women out of sports. Don't we know MALES in dresses are the most oppressestest group EVAAAAHH!

Hannah Barnes' 'Time to Think' may be good. I'll see if I can find some refs.

Except that, as has been PROVEN, transwomen are treated better than rapists. As has been doing the rounds on twitter.

I think someone is enjoying his scolding a little too much perhaps.