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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Girl Guides and the SC judgement

183 replies

Timefordrama · 22/04/2025 21:15

It was the Girl Guides' trans policies which first opened my eyes to the nonsense. I've just checked their website and they are still saying that trans girls can use girls' toilets and changing rooms, and share accommodation with whoever they want. There's no indication that the policies are gong to be reviewed in the light of the SC judgement. Anyone know any more about this?

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Apollo441 · Yesterday 12:42

TeenToTwenties · Yesterday 12:36

And you haven't posted the evidence for the claims you made re brains and stereotypes.

Of course he hasn't. Nor will he. This 'science' can only be shared with special people who know how to interpret the data and don't ask awkward questions.
The school holidays have started, thought i'd just mention that...

nutmeg7 · Yesterday 12:43

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 12:40

It's not language it is the sex of the person. There are only two sexes - Female and male/

I'd urge you to stop making a fool of yourself but I doubt you will.

It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect in the wild!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · Yesterday 12:44

nutmeg7 · Yesterday 12:43

It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect in the wild!

Oh cool - I haven’t seen a wild Dunning-Kruger in years! The ones in captivity are just so sad.

murasaki · Yesterday 12:47

TwoLoonsAndASprout · Yesterday 12:44

Oh cool - I haven’t seen a wild Dunning-Kruger in years! The ones in captivity are just so sad.

Ì like to think of them as similar to those fluffy little haggises, two legs shorter than the others, running pointlessly around in circles on a hill.

Please tell me they're like that.

SidewaysOtter · Yesterday 12:51

TwoLoonsAndASprout · Yesterday 12:44

Oh cool - I haven’t seen a wild Dunning-Kruger in years! The ones in captivity are just so sad.

I'd only seen stuffed ones before and they were rather alarming.

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Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 12:51

user08101988 · Yesterday 11:32

Quick note on your language there. "Men who self identify as women" are also known as trans women or, even simpler, women. Since GG is for "all girls" (quote from their website) that includes ALL WOMEN. It is also well documented that trans women do not pose a threat to cis women in women-only spaces. If you are going to say "What if they are men and just want to look at little girls in a sexual way?" then should we prohibit lesbians or bisexual women from volunteering when they are already in a tough spot for volunteers because what if they look at the little girls in the same way.?

Men who self identify as women is more accurate though isn’t it? And men, as a sex class, are the ultimate threat to girls and women no matter what the setting and no matter how many times you try to make ‘cis’ a thing.

Why do support putting little girls at risk with these policies? Only a non-male policy is sensible. No fantasy-pandering.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · Yesterday 12:51

murasaki · Yesterday 12:47

Ì like to think of them as similar to those fluffy little haggises, two legs shorter than the others, running pointlessly around in circles on a hill.

Please tell me they're like that.

Less fluffy and appealing than a Haggis, and very thin-skinned, but yes, two short legs and endless circling.

GreyskySexRealistsky · Yesterday 12:53

user08101988 · Yesterday 12:34

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/lgbt_children/5559383-trans-women-are-real-women-and-should-have-access-to-womens-spaces

Thread is here to keep going. My mistake to get you to email me. It was very immature looking at it. I take accountability

Keep this thread for what it was intended for, and move all of this discourse here

Just took a look at that thread - he's now getting taken to pieces simultaneously on two threads, not just one

Must be some kind of humiliation thing

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 12:53

murasaki · Yesterday 12:47

Ì like to think of them as similar to those fluffy little haggises, two legs shorter than the others, running pointlessly around in circles on a hill.

Please tell me they're like that.

The plural of haggis is haggi

murasaki · Yesterday 12:54

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 12:53

The plural of haggis is haggi

Pedant! 🤣

DialSquare · Yesterday 12:55

GreyskySexRealistsky · Yesterday 12:53

Just took a look at that thread - he's now getting taken to pieces simultaneously on two threads, not just one

Must be some kind of humiliation thing

Shame he didn’t start one in AIBU!

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 12:56

I was going to suggest that. With a poll

GreyskySexRealistsky · Yesterday 12:57

DialSquare · Yesterday 12:55

Shame he didn’t start one in AIBU!

There's time yet

BettyBooper · Yesterday 12:59

One does wonder, given that trans identifying males definitely have laydee brains (fact), why their posts so often come across as so male on MN?

I mystery for the ages....

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 13:00

murasaki · Yesterday 12:54

Pedant! 🤣

Guilty as charged 🤣

Igneococcus · Yesterday 13:01

nutmeg7 · Yesterday 12:42

“Honey”
?

'm not sure I'd be brave enough to be patronizing to Boily.

murasaki · Yesterday 13:01

BettyBooper · Yesterday 12:59

One does wonder, given that trans identifying males definitely have laydee brains (fact), why their posts so often come across as so male on MN?

I mystery for the ages....

It always astonishes me that they think we can't tell.

SqueakyDinosaur · Yesterday 13:06

@user08101988's mysterious "proof" that is so precious and convincing that it has to be kept under wraps has reminded me of this marvellous little video: Two elderly British actors reenact a Youtube comment fight between Justin Bieber fans. : r/videos https://share.google/9UMXgFB3m8nuTephk It still makes me laugh.

Igneococcus · Yesterday 13:09

Was the new thread started in the LGBT children forum rather than in FWR because user345345454 (can't be arsed to look up the actual number) was hoping for more backup from the posters there than here?

GreyskySexRealistsky · Yesterday 13:10

Igneococcus · Yesterday 13:09

Was the new thread started in the LGBT children forum rather than in FWR because user345345454 (can't be arsed to look up the actual number) was hoping for more backup from the posters there than here?

He clearly thought the mummies there would be nicer to him than the, erm, hags over here 😄
He was wrong

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 13:10

nutmeg7 · Yesterday 12:42

“Honey”
?

🎵Ah, sugar, sugar 🎵

murasaki · Yesterday 13:10

Igneococcus · Yesterday 13:09

Was the new thread started in the LGBT children forum rather than in FWR because user345345454 (can't be arsed to look up the actual number) was hoping for more backup from the posters there than here?

I assume so.

It would be unkind of me to ask how that's working out for him.

FictionalCharacter · Yesterday 13:23

SqueakyDinosaur · Yesterday 13:06

@user08101988's mysterious "proof" that is so precious and convincing that it has to be kept under wraps has reminded me of this marvellous little video: Two elderly British actors reenact a Youtube comment fight between Justin Bieber fans. : r/videos https://share.google/9UMXgFB3m8nuTephk It still makes me laugh.

That is magnificent! 😂

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 13:25

Igneococcus · Yesterday 13:01

'm not sure I'd be brave enough to be patronizing to Boily.

I'm a sweetheart me. Made out of pure honey!

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AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 13:28

murasaki · Yesterday 13:10

I assume so.

It would be unkind of me to ask how that's working out for him.

So, so badly 😁