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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Maggie Chapman MSP slanders Supreme Court

283 replies

Seriestwo · 21/04/2025 13:54

Maggie Chapman has publicly accused the Supreme Court of transphobia. Any lawyers know if this is contempt of court?
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TheOtherRaven · 22/04/2025 16:43

ThatPithySheep · 22/04/2025 15:54

I guess in the worst case scenario some trans people will feel they can't go out in public because they can't use public toilets. I'm struggling to muster up much sympathy since they gave not one shiny shit about the women who couldn't use public toilets because there were men in them

This.

It wasn't tragic for women. Learn to cope/reframe trauma/educate self/die mad etc was perfectly appropriate to tell them. Why is it tragic when it happens to men?

lifeinthelastlane · 22/04/2025 16:45

Conxis · 22/04/2025 16:10

She’s just been speaking in the Scottish parliament session on the Supreme Court ruling this afternoon. Of course it was all about how worried and frightened trans people are today.
Some of the MSPs spoke pretty harsh words about her behaviour at the weekend

Is this available to watch/listen to anywhere? Thanks

TheOtherRaven · 22/04/2025 16:47

'I was sad and cross for men that it turns out women have rights, which is totes mean and inconvenient to men, so I got emotionally incontinent and unprofessional and said a lot of hyperbolic, unjustified crap that doesn't affect my duties as an MP cos reasons, and I'm not sorry. Vote for me.'

Good grief.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/04/2025 17:00

Igneococcus · 22/04/2025 16:20

Ha, whereas I grew up in a large talkative family and dp and the dc can also talk seemingly without ever taking breath, so I learned to say what I want to say with as few words as possible to get into the rare gaps.

[brief diversion from thread follows]

It's a wonderful gift to be pithy. My husband used to be a senior IT person. When something went wrong with the system either he or his colleague would have to email all staff to keep them updated. His colleague would send out an email something on these lines:

Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of everyone in the IT department I would like to apologise for the delays you have all been experiencing with your email this afternoon. This was due to [insert complicated technical explanation] which we have now managed to fix with the help of our suppliers. We are confident that everything is now back up and running, but as ever, please don't hesitate to get in touch if you need any further assistance.
Best wishes,
Lon Gwinded

My husband's email would read:

All - email is now back up and running as of 1600.
T. Erse

Same at home! It's great. I'm the waffler.

[diversion over]

JoyousEagle · 22/04/2025 17:05

The thing is, I imagine she is someone who was angry when the daily mail ran that “enemies of the people” headline about the judges. She can’t have it both ways. It can’t be “don’t attack the judiciary” when it’s things you agree with, and “they’re hateful bigots” when you don’t. (I include the DM in that criticism as I bet they’ll be criticising Chapman for this despite their previous headline).

Obviously she’s entitled to work to change the law. That’s totally fine.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/04/2025 17:27

EweSurname · 22/04/2025 15:13

She’s said she criticised the institution and not individual judges, and won’t be stepping down

x.com/andrewlearmonth/status/1914652812522164733

Listening a second time. Chapman is talking about the Supreme Court and the Equality Act through the lens of institutional power structures, which can be a useful tool for understanding phenomena like no one in the Met doing anything about their misogynist officers until Wayne Couzins murdered Sarah Everard.

It's instructive that she attempts to apply that analysis to a piece of legislation intended to counter institutional power by explicitly granting rights (for example, to operate services and freely associate) to marginalised groups. The unspoken axiom underpinning her attack on the SC (and the whole apparatus of Parliament and Government, based on her clarification that she thinks that laws created in an unjust society are inherently unjust) is that the EA is unjust because it gives women, who are marginalised on the basis of sex, undeserved rights to single-sex spaces and services.

Which tells you that she's just another transmaiden misogynist, one who is willing to attack the very rule of law to throw women under the bus.

Conxis · 22/04/2025 18:03

The tone was all very conciliatory but basically it’s all the fault of the EHRC…….
which makes a change from Scot Gov blaming Westminster for everything

terryleather · 22/04/2025 18:25

A woman so dense that light bends round her and so talentless, incompetent and blinded by ideology that only the Scottish Government would have her.

Not for the first time, and sad to say undoubtedly not the last, I weep for the state of my country.

Igneococcus · 22/04/2025 18:32

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/04/2025 17:00

[brief diversion from thread follows]

It's a wonderful gift to be pithy. My husband used to be a senior IT person. When something went wrong with the system either he or his colleague would have to email all staff to keep them updated. His colleague would send out an email something on these lines:

Dear Colleagues,
On behalf of everyone in the IT department I would like to apologise for the delays you have all been experiencing with your email this afternoon. This was due to [insert complicated technical explanation] which we have now managed to fix with the help of our suppliers. We are confident that everything is now back up and running, but as ever, please don't hesitate to get in touch if you need any further assistance.
Best wishes,
Lon Gwinded

My husband's email would read:

All - email is now back up and running as of 1600.
T. Erse

Same at home! It's great. I'm the waffler.

[diversion over]

I now wonder if your husband is my IT guy who is great but doesn't say a word more than absolutely necessary.
My worst colleague, he was a manipulative backstabber, would write long circuitous emails and the longer they were, the more vicious would be the inevitable blow.

Mochudubh · 22/04/2025 18:46

IHeartHalloumi · 21/04/2025 14:48

Appropriate that she's the new Rector of Dundee University right when the uni is going to hell in a handcart.

Good grief! Did Dundee students not learn from her tenure at Aberdeen where students were so incensed by her alleged "dirty tricks" during her re-election campaign, they wanted a cat to stand against her?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/aberdeen-university-rector-vote-buttons-cat-students-candidate-a8208456.html

Students want 'friendly' cat to become rector in protest against university management

'University management do not take our interests seriously', student says

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/aberdeen-university-rector-vote-buttons-cat-students-candidate-a8208456.html

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/04/2025 19:18

Mochudubh · 22/04/2025 18:46

Good grief! Did Dundee students not learn from her tenure at Aberdeen where students were so incensed by her alleged "dirty tricks" during her re-election campaign, they wanted a cat to stand against her?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/aberdeen-university-rector-vote-buttons-cat-students-candidate-a8208456.html

CatOfHate offers to stand as an MSP against Maggie PersonPerson.

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 20:15

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 22/04/2025 19:18

CatOfHate offers to stand as an MSP against Maggie PersonPerson.

'The campaign comes just two months after the university ratified a decision to scrap the rector election over allegations of “dirty tricks” by the campaign for Maggie Chapman.

A re-vote was called for after at least one other candidate wanted the Scottish Greens co-convener, the current rector, removed from the ballot in a row over campaign posters being torn down.'

For goodness sake. How old.is this woman, and what on earth is she doing in politics?

unbelieveable22 · 22/04/2025 20:16

Have just been observing much of these discussions but have just watched an interview with Maggie Chapman on Twitter. Can't link but the interview was carried out by Gina Davidson LBC. Maggie was flustered but seems is not for turning either.

rebmacesrevda · 22/04/2025 20:21

@ArabellaScott
Every time I hear her speak I'm struck by how immature she sounds. Her attitude is that of a petulant teenager, and it's incongruent with the way she looks. It confuses my brain!

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 20:23

One might think that the list vote is not only unfair to voters in returning unpopular candidates, but also unfair to candidates promoted far beyond their skillset and ability.

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/04/2025 20:23

She's like an evangelist preacher who functions and perceives only in terms of good and evil.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/04/2025 20:26

She's almost 46. Old enough to know better!

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 20:28

Shortshriftandlethal · 22/04/2025 20:23

She's like an evangelist preacher who functions and perceives only in terms of good and evil.

Someone on here recently described her as a Sunday school teacher performing an exorcism, and its absolutely spot on.

SnoozingFox · 22/04/2025 21:04

To be fair on the list thing. Much as I am loathe to defend this silly woman, in the list vote you do vote for a party not an individual. But each party says which candidates they are putting forward for the regional list, ranked in order. So it would say something like

  1. Jane Smith
  2. Adam Brown
  3. Mark White
  4. Lucy Jones
and so on for the seven seats which are up for grabs in each region. We rank in order of preference and they do some sort of jiggery pokery to decide how the 7 seats in each region is split. In my region at the moment we have 3 labour, 3 conservative, 1 green. If you get 3 seats - as in my example above, Lucy misses out as she's 4th pick.
JanesLittleGirl · 22/04/2025 22:53

Scottish Devolution. So how is that working out for you?

PrettyDamnCosmic · 22/04/2025 22:53

PrettyDamnCosmic · 22/04/2025 15:53

There is a great video of her being skewered by Naomi Cunningham in some committee meeting if someone has a link.

I found it. Enjoy!

https://x.com/TheParty1sOver/status/1871307935684374625

https://x.com/TheParty1sOver/status/1871307935684374625

Szygy · 22/04/2025 23:32

ArabellaScott · 22/04/2025 20:28

Someone on here recently described her as a Sunday school teacher performing an exorcism, and its absolutely spot on.

OMG, yes! I recently happened to see a clip of her with the sound accidentally muted, and that’s spookily accurate. The head-jerking, twitching and wild eye-rolling was actually quite a frightening sight.

SternJoyousBee · 23/04/2025 01:36

SnoozingFox · 22/04/2025 16:03

Pretty much par for the course when it comes to Scottish politics.

Which is heartbreaking considering the history of politics in Scotland; who in the current generation holds a candle to the likes of Keir Hardie, John Smith and Donald Dewar?