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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Igneococcus · 21/04/2025 11:52

Oh dammit, not Alasdair Beckett King, didn't think he'd be a gullible idiot. He is only one of about five people I actually recognize.

MarieDeGournay · 21/04/2025 11:58

Igneococcus · 21/04/2025 11:52

Oh dammit, not Alasdair Beckett King, didn't think he'd be a gullible idiot. He is only one of about five people I actually recognize.

yes I was also thinking - with a few exceptions - who?

Sadly I DO recognise this name:
Nicola Coughlan raises over €130,000 for trans charity after UK ruling on gender
Nicola Coughlan raises over €130,000 for trans charity after UK ruling on gender

I can just see Sister Michael's [the character, not the actor playing her] epic eyeroll...

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 11:58

Is Philip Pulman on there, I haven't spotted his name?

What a bunch of misogynistic idiots.

Igneococcus · 21/04/2025 12:02

MarieDeGournay · 21/04/2025 11:58

yes I was also thinking - with a few exceptions - who?

Sadly I DO recognise this name:
Nicola Coughlan raises over €130,000 for trans charity after UK ruling on gender
Nicola Coughlan raises over €130,000 for trans charity after UK ruling on gender

I can just see Sister Michael's [the character, not the actor playing her] epic eyeroll...

Not surprised at all Nicola is on it, Sister Michael would roll her eyes but not convinced about the actress who plays her would too.

Justme56 · 21/04/2025 12:03

Wonder what they actually think the definition of being a man or a woman should be - a feeling, a preference for certain colours etc. Quick to shout out bioessentialism but I’d be interested to know how they define the alternative.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 21/04/2025 12:03

No real surprises on there. The usual intellectual lightweights and luvvies.

Screamingabdabz · 21/04/2025 12:05

Fancy willingly adding your ‘Thicky McThick from Thick Town’ name on a list of flat earth idiocy. I guess there is no such thing as bad publicity.

CrossPurposes · 21/04/2025 12:08

There's a couple of female playwrights there who I'm disappointed in because I've enjoyed their work which focused on women.

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teawamutu · 21/04/2025 12:09

I either don't recognise those names, don't care about them or already knew they had witchfinder tendencies.

Whatever. They wave their virtue flags, and the planet goes on being round.

EmpressoftheMundane · 21/04/2025 12:10

Mostly random names. 🤷🏻‍♀️

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 12:12

Billy Bragg is identifying as a writer, now?

ThatsNotMyTeen · 21/04/2025 12:14

oh Hayley from Corrie is in, that’s me won over then.

EmpressoftheMundane · 21/04/2025 12:14

I don’t really care about this random group’s opinion, but this is worrying: https://archive.ph/eoDSN

The younger generation has a different opinion…at leadt on the surface. When I read the article, it seems they have misunderstood a few things, and if this “constructive ambiguity” was exposed. They might feel differently, although some might find it too difficult to change their minds for tribal/social reasons.

This is far from over.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/04/2025 12:15

I suspect there's a lot of self identified "writers" on there amidst some of the well know names. Of the "I read a sentence from a book aloud on tiktok" variety .

DancefloorAcrobatics · 21/04/2025 12:16

A sad day for UK literature.

Sisuu · 21/04/2025 12:17

I haven’t read it. No interest except to say ‘How embarrassing’ for them. To demonstrate how particularly thick they are. Tragic.

I’d love to be a time traveller watching people discuss this peculiar episode in history. How they will laugh at the morons who couldn’t understand biological fact. Or even worse, the imbeciles who could, but chose not to.

Voice0fReason · 21/04/2025 12:17

I honestly don't think any of these people actually understand why the previous understanding and misuse of the law was a problem.
They don't seem to understand that not being able to define sex does cause serious problems for women.

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 21/04/2025 12:19

They didn't even get the date of the judgement right!

All those women though, like turkeys voting for christmas.

ArabellaScott · 21/04/2025 12:19

' The signatories of this letter attest to the fact that writers with a bioessentialist view of womanhood and a binary view of sex and gender are in the minority.'

That's some assertion.

EmpressoftheMundane · 21/04/2025 12:21

Sisuu · 21/04/2025 12:17

I haven’t read it. No interest except to say ‘How embarrassing’ for them. To demonstrate how particularly thick they are. Tragic.

I’d love to be a time traveller watching people discuss this peculiar episode in history. How they will laugh at the morons who couldn’t understand biological fact. Or even worse, the imbeciles who could, but chose not to.

I think they do understand biological fact very well. They just want it to be irrelevant. For some privileged people maybe it can be. But in many crucial situations, it cannot be escaped.

WarriorN · 21/04/2025 12:21

Robin Ince

WarriorN · 21/04/2025 12:21

Robin Ince

Screamingabdabz · 21/04/2025 12:22

EmpressoftheMundane · 21/04/2025 12:14

I don’t really care about this random group’s opinion, but this is worrying: https://archive.ph/eoDSN

The younger generation has a different opinion…at leadt on the surface. When I read the article, it seems they have misunderstood a few things, and if this “constructive ambiguity” was exposed. They might feel differently, although some might find it too difficult to change their minds for tribal/social reasons.

This is far from over.

The younger generation have not earned enough stripes to have a fully rounded opinion on this imo. Wait until ‘Melissa’ has a baby, and her daughter has to use toilets or be examined medically, or gets fitted for her first bra. Or maybe she has problems with labour or childbirth…And wait until Melissa experiences gynaecological or hormonal issues that only females experience or she herself experiences a lifetime of male entitlement and arrogance and dismissal. God forbid she ever experiences first hand male violence… I wonder if she’ll be so idealistic about it all then?

minsmum · 21/04/2025 12:24

I am disappointed by Mark Haddon signing that

Sisuu · 21/04/2025 12:25

EmpressoftheMundane · 21/04/2025 12:21

I think they do understand biological fact very well. They just want it to be irrelevant. For some privileged people maybe it can be. But in many crucial situations, it cannot be escaped.

Edited

Exactly. That’s why I said ‘Or even worse, the imbeciles who could, but chose not to’.