Politicians respond to the SC judgement

[ArabellaScott]

A thread to gather politicians' responses to yesterday's Supreme Court judgement.

1. Stella Creasy. She's rather unhelpfully posted a pdf, (and turned off replies), so archive below.

https://archive.ph/8T1Yl

https://x.com/stellacreasy/status/1912609872430133697

Is anyone on bluesky and can do the same from there?

I would so love Chapman to start agitating for self ID to come back to the table in Scotland. It would put Swinney on s collision course with Kate Forbes and Labour. It would be such a bun fight. Get the popcorn 🍿 in.

I have spent a lot of this afternoon having grown up discussions and agreeing that gloating isn’t a good look or helpful. But also… massive cathartic and joyful LOL from me at JKR. Here it is screenshotted just in case you didn’t click on the links above…

I don't remember Liz Truss supporting self-ID. In fact, for all her other faults, as Minister for Women & Equalities, we probably have to thank her for self-ID not being introduced in England and Wales.

Russell Findlay has been very good on this.

Ash Regan, Alba: "For Women Scotland have won their appeal.
Women’s concerns were valid, women’s rights do matter and the Supreme Court have confirmed the law matches biological reality.
Three Scottish mums just humiliated the Scottish Government - exactly as I warned ministers would happen if they didn’t drop this case.
This cannot and must not go without consequences."

Plus an interview with Sheila Fogarty:
https://www.facebook.com/AshReganALBA/videos/1584410638913399?locale=en_GB

'I have found the past 24 hours incredibly difficult. Too many people I know are now afraid of what the Supreme Court judgement will mean for them. We need clarity, and we need to work to ensure their rights will be protected. We must base the solution in compassion.'

Christine Jardine

We really do live in the stupidest of times.

This image was used in the press with a winning headline. Loved it.

What I am liking is seeing politicians supporting each other across party lines - Tess White (Conservatives) has replied to Anas Sarwar's revisionist and heavily community noted tweet, pointing out that he needs to apologise to the courageous Carol Mochan and Claire Baker (Scottish Labour) who were heavily punished by their party for going against the whip he imposed.

I've seen this image also which has superimposed JKR's reply to an odious man over that superb image

Apart from the JKR pic this is a really fucking depressing thread (I mean, thanks though, Arabella).

On this basis all Reform have to do to win the next election is for Farage to post a pic of himself grinning with a pint in Union flag socks saying "yeah I know I can't be arsed with all that meeting my constituents shit, but at least I never pretended a bloke is a woman."

We’ve had clarity Christine, do try to keep up 🤦‍♀️

As ever, one the best parts of the great feminist awakening has been alliances forged across political divides.

I'm not so sure tbh.

Note that most of the government have been silent on the issue.

I read that Maggie Chapman piece in the Times. That she thinks now is the time to bring self ID back to the table just absolutely beggars belief! Absolute madness.

This user has collated many politician's quotes from the past; for comparison:
https://nitter.poast.org/ripx4nutmeg/status/1442783035389325313#m

(you can see the same on x with the same user name but might have to scroll back a bit)

Some quotes appear downright creepy.

If she talked any more shite the screen would turn brown.

Attack on the Tories about this issue is a sure sign of a flailing Labour/Green/Lib/SNP supporter who needs to distract from the dangerous TWAW bullshit their party championed.

It was the Tory’s who allowed this shit show to happen. They could have stopped it at any point but decided to leave it for a “wedge issue” at the election. They didn’t give a shit about women.

Yeah. There is no way on earth Swinney would chance it. Elections next year!

What about the protections for trans men that the ruling confers?

Once again, a case of the invisible women / transmen / actual females

MN community note

There is no roll back. The law hasn't changed. It's the same as it was yesterday and the day before all the way back to 2010.

Note to self...

The Equality Act 2010 was passed on 8th April. This means the political party in power was Labour.

Thus, we can conclude from this, that Sian Berry of the greens think that the culture war was stated by the left wing and by the Labour Party and NOT by the far right.

That's an interesting perspective there Sian!

Paraphrase: I think not being able to access single sex facilities kills people.

My response:

Therefore should we calculate the number of women who have died in the process of being unable to access single sex facilities due to various reasons around self exclusion that might affect a traumatised female sexual assault victim or a woman from a religious minority or any other reason?

What's the body count comparison? Can we have some numbers on the death toll likely for transwomen versus the likely death toll for women please?

Oo look some legal illiteracy.

Judges don't consult. Judges examine what the law says and rule based on what the law written by politicians says. They don't get to write the law.

If the law has definitions they have to make sense of them. If the law makes absolutely no sense if interpreted a different way, then that's probably not how the law was written and the intent of the law.