FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down Weds 16th April at 9.45am

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The Ruling in FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down next Weds 16th April at 9.45am It will also be streamed via the UKSC website, so you can watch live.

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1910272949350695371

Watching again. Judge being very careful to say (I paraphrase) "We didn't write the law, that's for politicians; we're just here to ascertain what it was intended to mean."

Which I think translates as: "Don't shout at us and get up twitter mobs branding us enemies of the people. You don't like it, go yell at someone else."

[edited after listening to judge's words again]

Pondering also whether this judgment means that where the health and safety law refers to facilities for men and women, this can now also be applied? (As was of course the intention of the health And safety regs when they were published, but became blurred by this nonsense.)

What happens now with NHS Annexe B, the work that Knotty and the wims did on winkling out NHS policies?

And yy, NHS Fife did FAFO and now deeply regret, I hope, causing the delay by withholding info.

We all need to write to our MPs today, to make sure they know how we would like to be represented

It's the next battle, I agree. But this gives us solid ground to fight from.

Previously, the counter argument was that false documents were fine because anyone with a bit of paper saying they were a woman was a woman, and we didn't need to/weren't allowed to distinguish between certificated women and section 9 women.

Now we can say that this is the law, and the falsification of documents inhibits compliance with the law.

Every time I hear women’s voices singing ‘women’s rights are human rights’ I well up. Those lyrics are ruddy genius

We are back to the left / right thing? And I can never remember who's who.

Left = Labour therefore Right = Tory have i got that correct?

Re Labour I can’t find the pp as moving fast but I think they’d push more against this if their polling wasn’t so bad.

They already have Reform marching on their ground and you can see their shift to counter. They’d be mad to go against women on this. Hopefully they’re not that mad.

A BBC headline that actually makes sense for once!

I think this entirely supports the interpretation of H&S legislation as being biological sex as would have been the original intention.

The singing was glorious.

The judgement unanimous but nice to know that the two female judges Lady Rose and Lady Simler wrote it together with Lord Hodge.

I think this entirely supports the interpretation of H&S legislation as being biological sex as would have been the original intention.

Because at the time no one thought there was any other sort of sex.
Yes, there were always cross dressers and transvestites, but as far as I know, they never claimed to be other than men.

Great shout! Donated.

I loved it when she said Lesbians are not attracted to certificates!

I doubt that KS will want to do anything to undermine this, as it won't do him any harm in his bid to be viewed favourably by Trump.

What I want to see now is employment lawyers up and down the land advising their clients to check and update their policies.

Fucking Harriet Harman Single sex spaces for women are important & can exclude trans women but only where necessary

it is necessary to exclude men 100% of the time if the aim is single sex provision Hattie.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t?post=asset%3A8b386e09-3d55-4783-9971-3524c99d7ce2#post

Let us never forget!

If Stonewall can have all their days - this one is ours - what shall we call it?

"For Women Day"?

9.54am on 16th April 2025

I don’t think there will be much political will to challenge this. This ruling means that obfuscation doesn’t work anymore. The only way to legislate against this would be to expressly state that legal sex overrides biological sex. I suspect that is too overt to be politically tolerable especially given that Labour is not polling well. It would be a political minefield for no electoral benefit.

The Trade Unions are now in a very exposed position too after their biased resolution that may breach the EA.

Again with the whole “anti-trans” narrative. They can’t even process the idea of women needing things for themselves. It’s not about you!

I imagine many politicians are relieved because it takes it out of their hands.

What a POWERFUL statement (and yep I’ve joined those in tears now!)

If there's a swing back to the right at the next election then the Tories will be all over this - and rightly so. Starmer's no fool, he knows what this means.

and the prize for the best fudged response goes to...HH!

She wants it both ways.

Will it make a difference? Upton didn’t have a GRC.