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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down Weds 16th April at 9.45am

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IDareSay · 10/04/2025 11:13

The Ruling in FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down next Weds 16th April at 9.45am It will also be streamed via the UKSC website, so you can watch live.

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1910272949350695371

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1910272949350695371

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PronounssheRa · 16/04/2025 10:52

I wonder if organisations, public and private, now regret 'getting ahead of the law' in exchange for stonewall brownie points?

JulesJules · 16/04/2025 10:52

BeaAndBen · 16/04/2025 10:28

Is it too early to drink?

It is not too early 🥂

snickersbarchild · 16/04/2025 10:52

I took my laptop from my office to my husband's and made him watch the judgement live with me. Such an historic moment

NoFineBalance · 16/04/2025 10:52

Trina Budge on Sky now.

FarriersGirl · 16/04/2025 10:53

BeaAndBen · 16/04/2025 10:28

Is it too early to drink?

No Cheers🍷🍷

Nobbynobbsknob · 16/04/2025 10:53

Has there been a response from stonewall yet?

JazzyJelly · 16/04/2025 10:54

Justgoingforaweeliedown · 16/04/2025 10:50

Is anyone else meant to be working but getting absolutely nothing done for reading all the commentary online?!

I can barely keep up with this thread! Today should be a national holiday for women 😁

CriticalCondition · 16/04/2025 10:54

Catriona Renton on WH knows her stuff. Talking about Isla Bryson/Adam Graham and the Peggie case.

Paulo1 · 16/04/2025 10:54

WandaSiri · 16/04/2025 10:11

It allows you to get your birth certificate and other documents changed. Yoo are deemed to be the other sex for specific legal purposes concerned only with your relationship to the state. Purposes specified in GRA. Can't remember what they all are, IANAL.

I mean, that is still bad and ridiculous but I think this judgement means that a GRC doesn't by default change your sex for purposes outside the GRA.

Thank you for this post @WandaSiri It goes someway to summarize the details I was struggling with

nauticant · 16/04/2025 10:55

Nobbynobbsknob · 16/04/2025 10:53

Has there been a response from stonewall yet?

Not yet, but others are pitching in:

https://x.com/Lab4TransRights/status/1912444326434439466

NoFineBalance · 16/04/2025 10:56

PronounssheRa · 16/04/2025 10:52

I wonder if organisations, public and private, now regret 'getting ahead of the law' in exchange for stonewall brownie points?

Does this mean I can tell Girl Guiding UK they need to get rid of their trans inclusion policy now? They are including some boys based on "identity" but not all boys. That is discriminatory.*

Edit *It should never have been applied to under 18s anyway.

NotBadConsidering · 16/04/2025 10:56

Love Emma Hilton 🤣🤣🤣

FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down Weds 16th April at 9.45am
Villagetoraiseachild · 16/04/2025 10:56

Sky news here for the party, bbc a bit po faced...

CompleteGinasaur · 16/04/2025 10:56

"Well funded anti-trans network with links to the far-right"? Why, whoever could they mean...

Boiledbeetle · 16/04/2025 10:57

nauticant · 16/04/2025 10:55

Not yet, but others are pitching in:

https://x.com/Lab4TransRights/status/1912444326434439466

Sigh!

FWS v Scottish Ministers will be handed down Weds 16th April at 9.45am
PerkingFaintly · 16/04/2025 10:57

NotBadConsidering · 16/04/2025 10:56

Love Emma Hilton 🤣🤣🤣

<snicker>

Helleofabore · 16/04/2025 10:57

nauticant · 16/04/2025 10:55

Not yet, but others are pitching in:

https://x.com/Lab4TransRights/status/1912444326434439466

When will they fucking realise that their accusations of ‘far right’ connections are just fuckwittery.

LizzieSiddal · 16/04/2025 10:57

Justgoingforaweeliedown · 16/04/2025 10:50

Is anyone else meant to be working but getting absolutely nothing done for reading all the commentary online?!

I’m meant to be painting the utility room. I’m sat watching Sky News 😆

TWETMIRF · 16/04/2025 10:57

NoFineBalance · 16/04/2025 10:56

Does this mean I can tell Girl Guiding UK they need to get rid of their trans inclusion policy now? They are including some boys based on "identity" but not all boys. That is discriminatory.*

Edit *It should never have been applied to under 18s anyway.

Edited

I would love to receive an essential updates email saying we are going back to girl only

LizzieSiddal · 16/04/2025 10:58

Nobbynobbsknob · 16/04/2025 10:53

Has there been a response from stonewall yet?

We’re ALL here for that 😂

murasaki · 16/04/2025 10:59

Boiledbeetle · 16/04/2025 10:57

Sigh!

But the equality act does have protections for trans people, 5 judges said so.

Just not the one they want. Oh dear.

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2025 10:59

Helleofabore · 16/04/2025 10:57

When will they fucking realise that their accusations of ‘far right’ connections are just fuckwittery.

So risible, it's not even funny.

We did this. Ordinary women, with jobs and kids and all the other bollocks of daily life. We know what it is to be a bloody woman, we've lived it all our lives, and we have persisted, been brave, written letters, gardened, encouraged each other, formed secret networks, campaigned, stickered, ribboned, made banners, sang songs, written poetry, taken the Scotgov to court, and then the appeal court, and then the Supreme Court. And we won.

Far right my fat, middle-aged, centre left arse.

Get over yourself, Jolyon Maugham. You don't have a fucking clue.

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwiches · 16/04/2025 11:00

Overjoyed. FWS and every single women who fought for years before I woke up, my sincere thanks and utter gratitude

NotAtMyAge · 16/04/2025 11:00

FuriousAndFrustrated · 16/04/2025 10:35

The fucking Guardian.... have to make it all about trans 😡

Now amended to read: "Gender critical campaigners win at UK supreme court over definition of woman"

I imagine there were a lot of complaints about the original headline.

Boiledbeetle · 16/04/2025 11:00

Top news item on the 11.00 headlines

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