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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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423 replies

DialSquare · 08/04/2025 14:57

I love JKR!

Hahahaha!!!!
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MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:10

MarieDeGournay · 08/04/2025 18:08

I don't see any comparison between being left-handed and being forced to use your right hand, and being asexual and um.... not having sex.

If asexual people - which I accept is different from just not feeling interested in a sexual relationship at the moment - don't want to have sex, nobody is forcing them to, unless they happen to be, tragically, amongst the 70,000 or so reported rapes in the UK last year. Then they are survivors of rape, along with the 69,999 others who didn't want sex, and deserve the same love and support as any other survivor.

But apart from that - don't want sex? don't have sex. It's not new, it's not unusual, it's your choice; what makes it 'an identity' and why should it have 'a day'?

This is again, completely ignorant to the specific prejudices faced by the people in question.

murasaki · 08/04/2025 18:11

Stonewall aren't the gotcha you think they are. Thoroughly discredited these days.

Orangemintcream · 08/04/2025 18:12

I don’t think that was necessary. While I don’t see the need for various celebratory days (as I think they are mainly corporate bullshitting) jokes about curing someone’s sexuality are in poor taste.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 08/04/2025 18:14

Anything that is even seen as adjacent to trans issues will be attacked on here.

Wtf does JKR care about this? Why do any of you care about this?

It’s clear from this thread most people don’t understand asexuality or why it impacts people’s lives.

I’m an incredibly sexual person but I imagine it would be challenging. Marriage? Kids? Puberty and the teenage years? It would be difficult.

StMarie4me · 08/04/2025 18:14

You love someone that chose their own name as the name of the man who invented gay conversion therapy?
I hope you make it clear to ANYONE gay that you know that you love a woman who advocates for and approves of gay conversion therapy?

Otherwise you are just lying to yourself as well as everyone else.

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:15

Orangemintcream · 08/04/2025 18:12

I don’t think that was necessary. While I don’t see the need for various celebratory days (as I think they are mainly corporate bullshitting) jokes about curing someone’s sexuality are in poor taste.

Especially from an author who uses the name of the man who popularised conversion therapy as her pen name.

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 08/04/2025 18:15

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:04

That’s not how Asexuality is defined (or any sexuality, actually.) and you either know that and are trolling or you are actually not very clever. It’s not a momentary decision or thought, it’s fundamental to who they are.

It’s radical for me that people here can believe people can be straight (not a choice) and gay (not a choice) and also bisexual (not a choice) but as soon as someone says they categorically have no sexual desire at all they are just making it up for attention.

Perhaps they need a day because anmong many other injustices Asexuality is still considered a mental health condition, rather than a sexuality. This is something that was hard fought for by Gay/Lesbian activists also. And I’m sure many people said “why do they need a day, just get on with it.”

For the user asking about the Stonewall website, it actually does reference conversion therapy in relation to be Asexual and the absolute need for better education to stop this happening.

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/news/new-research-shining-light--e2-80-98dehumanising-e2-80-99-discrimination-faced-ace-people

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Conversion practices are activities trying to change or suppress someone’s sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression. It can take medical forms, such as through psychological ‘therapies’, hormone therapies or surgeries, or they can be faith-based.

It does not say conversion practices include corrective rape. That is deeply serious and I don’t understand why they would have omitted it from their report if respondents to surveys have reported it.

DialSquare · 08/04/2025 18:17

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:15

Especially from an author who uses the name of the man who popularised conversion therapy as her pen name.

You’ve shown your hand there.

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MarieDeGournay · 08/04/2025 18:20

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:09

Or a demand to end the hate, prejudice and misunderstanding that they have to live with. Another article below with further stats and reference to this.

www.thepinknews.com/2023/10/29/asexual-research-stonewall-yasmin-benoit/

I think the big problem in this discussion is that you keep referring to asexuality as an 'identity' whereas to most of us it's just that some people, who we know, who may be in our families, aren't sexually attracted to other people. It's no big deal.

I bet 'hate, prejudice and misunderstanding' is not against people who do not want to have sex; to the extent that it happens, I'm pretty sure it's against people claiming that a pretty unremarkable characteristic - not wanting to have sex - is 'an identity'.

I question the hate and prejudice - I can't imagine people caring all that much, in my experience of people who weren't sexually attracted to other people, there was so much more to them that this was just one aspect of them, and not a very unusual one.

I would be interested to know what examples of widespread 'corrective rape' of asexual people are taking place, the corrective rape [and sometimes murder] of lesbians in South Africa has been identified as a problem for the last quarter of a century or so, and there is solid, though undoubtedly incomplete, data on how widespread it is.

Orangemintcream · 08/04/2025 18:20

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:15

Especially from an author who uses the name of the man who popularised conversion therapy as her pen name.

Or it’s just her initials…with I think a reference to her grandmother added in ?

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:21

DialSquare · 08/04/2025 18:17

You’ve shown your hand there.

I wasn’t wrong though. Robert Galbraith also experimented on Black prisoners. So I mean, a lovely choice all round.

SirChenjins · 08/04/2025 18:22

Perhaps they need to stop announcing it to their friends and families then. Not everything has to be shared, not everything about you is that interesting to others.

SirChenjins · 08/04/2025 18:23

Forgot to quote - that was in response to @MissDoubleU

murasaki · 08/04/2025 18:23

JKR is very against conversion. To the extent that she thinks it's wrong that gay people feel the need to pretend to be the other sex in order to have what they call heterosexual relationships.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2025 18:24

SirChenjins · 08/04/2025 18:06

Having no sexual desire is not attention seeking. Demanding a day of visibility to announce that lack of sexual desire is.

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Exactly. Why does anyone need to tell anyone they have no sexual desire, never mind have a ‘day of visibility’ for it. This also doesn’t equate to ‘denying they exist’.

Some people have no sexual desire, the end. I currently have no sexual desire, not sure if that’s peri kicking in. No one cares. I don’t need anyone to be offended for me on my behalf. I’m also left handed and naturally on the red side. Big wows.

StMarie4me · 08/04/2025 18:25

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 08/04/2025 18:14

Anything that is even seen as adjacent to trans issues will be attacked on here.

Wtf does JKR care about this? Why do any of you care about this?

It’s clear from this thread most people don’t understand asexuality or why it impacts people’s lives.

I’m an incredibly sexual person but I imagine it would be challenging. Marriage? Kids? Puberty and the teenage years? It would be difficult.

I personally believe that there are many more asexual people than admit it, and if people didn’t hate on them so much, maybe they would tend up married to people with different sexuality and end up with problems.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/04/2025 18:25

heathspeedwell · 08/04/2025 16:39

I think it's good that she's highlighting the absurdity of people using asexuality as an identity.

The TRAs are very keen to make being asexual part of the LGBTQ umbrella because they know that all the poor kids like Jazz Jennings and Jackie Green who had the misfortunate to be given puberty blockers will never be able to experience sexual pleasure.

If they can just claim that it's no big deal because loads of people are 'ace' then it detracts from the magnitude of horror of everything that was stolen from so many kids. Thousands of young people will never know the joy of feeling sexual desire or sexual fulfillment or the happiness that comes with intimacy or the closeness of the bonds it forges. All of that was taken from them by ideologues.

This is the real tragedy, not the fact that JK Rowling is questioning whether or not a day to celebrate being 'ace' is appropriate.

Well said.

murasaki · 08/04/2025 18:25

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:21

I wasn’t wrong though. Robert Galbraith also experimented on Black prisoners. So I mean, a lovely choice all round.

You do know there are a lot of Robert Galbraiths, and she's already said it wasn't that one, who in any case has a third name.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/04/2025 18:26

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:15

Especially from an author who uses the name of the man who popularised conversion therapy as her pen name.

Don't be ridiculous.

Waitwhat23 · 08/04/2025 18:26

Robert Galbraith Heath, cited as RG Heath on just about every single source on him? Instead of the multitude of other famous actual Robert Galbraiths' which don't fit with a increasingly desperate attempt to smear JKR?

The ridiculous TRA arguments really have gone full circle now. What's next? Fausto Sterling's debunked red head argument? Clownfish?

Waiting in anticipation.

DialSquare · 08/04/2025 18:26

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:21

I wasn’t wrong though. Robert Galbraith also experimented on Black prisoners. So I mean, a lovely choice all round.

You are wrong. You are taking about Robert Galbraith Heath who no one had ever heard of until you TAs dug him up. You’ve all been told many times that it’s nothing to do with her pen name but you don’t do facts do you.

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SirChenjins · 08/04/2025 18:28

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 18:21

I wasn’t wrong though. Robert Galbraith also experimented on Black prisoners. So I mean, a lovely choice all round.

  1. She’s already confirmed that the name came about by combining Robert Kennedy and Ella Galbraith, the name she wanted to be called as a child.
  2. The person you’re referring to as you continue to clutch at straws is Robert Galbraith Heath.
Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 08/04/2025 18:30

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2025 18:24

Exactly. Why does anyone need to tell anyone they have no sexual desire, never mind have a ‘day of visibility’ for it. This also doesn’t equate to ‘denying they exist’.

Some people have no sexual desire, the end. I currently have no sexual desire, not sure if that’s peri kicking in. No one cares. I don’t need anyone to be offended for me on my behalf. I’m also left handed and naturally on the red side. Big wows.

Because it’s considered weird by the majority when someone has never had a relationship nor wants one.

Teenagers are incredibly focused on sex and boyfriends and girlfriends.

Adults are focused on getting married and having kids.

It’s silly to pretend dating/marriage/kids isn’t an enormous focus in society.

Woman feel pressured to have kids all the time! Of course being asexual is an issue.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/04/2025 18:31

MissDoubleU · 08/04/2025 17:02

Asexual people are at more risk of people attempting to “cure” them. It’s calling corrective rape and it’s absolutely not something to joke about.

Heavens what sort of world do you live in.

VoodooQualities · 08/04/2025 18:31

Especially from an author who uses the name of the man who popularised conversion therapy as her pen name.

Aaaaand there it is.

Someone's been drinking the TRA kool-aid.

From here on in, nobody needs to pay any attention to a single word you type. Sorry!