Anyone else worried Trump’s advocacy of gender-critical views taints and discredits them?

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I’m gender-critical, and was pleased when Trump issued his early Executive Orders on Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation, and Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports.

But now… everything else. The sickening bullying of Zelensky and support for Putin, the threats to invade allies, the insults, lies, laziness, lawbreaking, cruelty and incompetence.

I’m concerned the fact Trump is an advocate of gender-critical views taints and discredits them in the eyes of thinking people. The verdict of history may be harsh because of the Trump connection.

I’m a resident of Terf Island, and still passionately hold GC views. But the support of Trump and Vance is starting to feel less like a blessing, more like a kiss of death.

I think people are forgetting that 77.3million voted for Trump. Sex realism was an 80:20 issue to protect women's spaces etc..
If one party is opposed to that it is natural that the other will get the votes and take the other side, that is democracy, the fact it's Trump is almost irrelevant, if Democrats carry on with their vote losing position they may lose votes in the next election because of it, if they lose to Vance in the next election I think it will be quietly dropped as Labour has started to do here.

I guess Labour had several other batshit legislation / policies to push through. They probably realised there’s only so much the public can cope with.

What’s interesting is they made a promise to reform the GRA in their manifesto. You might think they would lead with something they had promised to do rather than something like the assisted suicide bill which didn’t get a mention in the run up to the election. I know it’s a pmb but why give over so much tome to something that wasn’t in the manifesto?

The assisted suicide bill is a private member's bill, not official Labour policy. It gives Labour mps a free vote on it, which is why mps like Diane Abbott could vote against it. It has the strong support of many in the Labour leadership but it's not officially a policy.

Yes. Which is what makes it weird that they’ve prioritised it over stuff they actually promised to do in their manifesto such as gender reform and conversion therapy bans and social care reform.

But they aren't prioritising it. It's a private member's bill. It is not the Labour Party putting any work behind it. It is a single mp who got enough votes to take it to the next stage, where there is now a committee of mps from various parties.

It is a Labour MP and the government representative on the committee wasn’t neutral. Kier Starmer also stated he promised Ester Rantzen that he would make time for the bill.

As a conservative I'm getting a bit aggravated by the assumption that the right are anti-woman, 'nasties', Trump and Vance are stupid etc.
Pres. Trump fulfilled his promises to women and he's stopping federal monies to states and universities that keep putting men in women's sports; that's admirable. What politician in Europe is doing that? He's also deporting antisemitic Hamas terror supporters. I'm Jewish and a lot of UK and European Jews are leaving it's so bad for us.
Trump has also really cut inflation, so prices are down, energy is down. and wants to return the US to well-paying manufacturing jobs . Trump and Vance want working class citizens to have good lives. Do Labour and the Dems care?
Anyway he's popular for a reason. So please think and step out of your bubble.

This was so odd. Why is Ester Rantzen dictating what policies Labour are prioritising?

Esther's got all the dirt.

Her and Netflix fiction writers…

I don't think Trump has much, if any, of an issue w gay people in his private life.

But it is incorrect to say that Trump has never spoken against gay marriage. In 2015, he told CNN he supported traditional marriage, presumably meaning not gay marriage.

More importantly, In February 2016, he said he wanted to appoint judges to the Supreme Court to overturn Obergefell.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-marriage-equality_n_56af63c8e4b00b033aafb496

He seems to have changed his mind since then, although the judges he's appointed probs would support turning over Obergefell.

No. Believing that there are two sexes and you're one or the other and that's what makes you a man or a woman is the default view. So it's bound to sit alongside all sorts of other opinions and be found in all sorts of character types. I can't imagine anyone suddenly reviewing their stance on that because Trump believes it. Anymore than they'd become a naturist because he wears clothes.

I expect Trump also believes in gravity.

Should I review my position on that because of him? 🤔

If we accept "I think therefore I am" as a truism then comments like this rather suggest their speakers don't, in fact, exist.