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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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AlisonDonut · 26/03/2025 09:41

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:17

And yet so many unprepared to stand up for the rights of millions of women to access life saving treatment, and happy to have this shut down for them.

I've just had a look at PP's website.

They declare that they provide gender affirming services.

They don't declare how much of this is spent on these services in their 2024 annual report.

Which means they are being snuck in under some other guise.

So in order to prevent them being snuck in under some other guise, they have had to stop the federal funding entirely [which is around 45% of their funding].

Incidentally, I believe they aren't ALLOWED to use federal funds for abortions. So this will come out of other funds.

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:41

Certain posters also seem to consistently fail to recognize that most posters here are in the UK and our right to contraception and abortion is not under threat at all, whereas our children and our rights are being harmed by gender ideology. Which has been fuelled by the activists within US based orgs like PP.

I do care about women's rights to abortion in the US, I tend to agree with RBG that enacting laws protecting abortion at the state level will be more successful and lasting long term and am heartened to see the progress already being made in many states (Florida is so close).

The way PP are behaving is just bonkers though and they don't seem to care enough about women and girls to put their blatant hatred of Trump to one side. Which makes me question a lot of things about them and the article linked up thread was just horrifying and paints PP as an organization more about political activism than ethical, high quality healthcare.

Abusing women for being critical thinkers and not just accepting illogical groupthink is very unlikely to change minds: see also, the last US election.

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:43

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:41

Certain posters also seem to consistently fail to recognize that most posters here are in the UK and our right to contraception and abortion is not under threat at all, whereas our children and our rights are being harmed by gender ideology. Which has been fuelled by the activists within US based orgs like PP.

I do care about women's rights to abortion in the US, I tend to agree with RBG that enacting laws protecting abortion at the state level will be more successful and lasting long term and am heartened to see the progress already being made in many states (Florida is so close).

The way PP are behaving is just bonkers though and they don't seem to care enough about women and girls to put their blatant hatred of Trump to one side. Which makes me question a lot of things about them and the article linked up thread was just horrifying and paints PP as an organization more about political activism than ethical, high quality healthcare.

Abusing women for being critical thinkers and not just accepting illogical groupthink is very unlikely to change minds: see also, the last US election.

I think you'll find that many people in the States didn't believe that women's access to reproductive healthcare would be under threat a few short years ago... It's only a few small steps isn't it?

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:47

AlisonDonut · 26/03/2025 09:41

I've just had a look at PP's website.

They declare that they provide gender affirming services.

They don't declare how much of this is spent on these services in their 2024 annual report.

Which means they are being snuck in under some other guise.

So in order to prevent them being snuck in under some other guise, they have had to stop the federal funding entirely [which is around 45% of their funding].

Incidentally, I believe they aren't ALLOWED to use federal funds for abortions. So this will come out of other funds.

One of the things I love most about this board is when hyperbole is met with facts.

Good work Alison. So the government does not fund abortion so this part of PP's work will be unaffected by the govt funding freeze.

Unless PP choose to move funding to remove access to abortions from women in favour of providing unevidenced unlicensed, experimental puberty blockers to children instead.

Chersfrozenface · 26/03/2025 09:50

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:43

I think you'll find that many people in the States didn't believe that women's access to reproductive healthcare would be under threat a few short years ago... It's only a few small steps isn't it?

As I shall never tire of pointing out, abortion is legislated on at state level.

At the same time as the Presidential election (and others) there were ballots on safeguarding or extending abortion rights in 10 states - and the measures passed in 7 of them.

Including Arizona, Missouri, Nevada and Montana, which Trump won.

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:54

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:43

I think you'll find that many people in the States didn't believe that women's access to reproductive healthcare would be under threat a few short years ago... It's only a few small steps isn't it?

Well it's going to be difficult to fight for reproductive health if we can't use the word woman or talk about biology, and those few small steps haven't happened. We're busy dealing with real things.

Also, lawyers were arguing that roe vs wade was shaky from the start relying as it did on a tortuous argument. RBG who was pro choice said this and argued for state laws instead. The people who were unaware of this were very poorly informed.

Beowulfa · 26/03/2025 09:56

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:40

You know, so much of this thread just sounds like an apologist's creed for Trump's overarching ultimate political agenda to keep women in their place.

Well done everyone on helping him out.

Fuck you am I an apologist for Trump.

If you run a service like PP in a country with a powerful religious lobby well motivated and funded to undermine you, then you need to be permanently prepared for attack. That means evidence-based healthcare, clear safeguarding, meticulous record keeping, accurate accounts and a mission statement centring the health of vulnerable women and girls. Why give the likes of Trump any free ammunition?

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 10:06

I think some posters interpret mothers wanting to care about and safeguard their children as 'being kept in their place'.

No, we genuinely love our own children and care about safeguarding all children.

Being pro child safety is now right wing apparently 🤷‍♀️

Talk about playing right into Trump's hands.....

AlisonDonut · 26/03/2025 10:11

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 10:06

I think some posters interpret mothers wanting to care about and safeguard their children as 'being kept in their place'.

No, we genuinely love our own children and care about safeguarding all children.

Being pro child safety is now right wing apparently 🤷‍♀️

Talk about playing right into Trump's hands.....

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Some of us don't even have kids and yet bang on about this endlessly.

The likes of TRAs love to paint us as full on MAGA for that.

I'd love America to be MAGA if MAGA means not sterilising and mutilating kids. As apparently that's what that means.

If it takes the worst man in the western world to do it, then that's what it takes.

I'd much prefer it if more reasonable people could take that on but no, they won't.

IDareSay · 26/03/2025 10:17

The fact we are being scolded by posters who use the term 'anti-trans' shows exactly what the agenda of those posters is.

We are pro-womens rights and child safeguarding. Simple.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/03/2025 10:26

IDareSay · 26/03/2025 10:17

The fact we are being scolded by posters who use the term 'anti-trans' shows exactly what the agenda of those posters is.

We are pro-womens rights and child safeguarding. Simple.

Yes. Self interested men and the occasional woman are very keen on smearing women and feminists - especially if we've the temerity to try to safeguard children and young people from those seeking to exploit them with "gender affirming care"

Twas ever thus.

Chersfrozenface · 26/03/2025 10:28

Self interested men and the occasional woman...

The latter being the Aunts. Shilling for men's privilege for the sake of some crumbs of status with those men.

Retiredfromthere · 26/03/2025 10:51

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 08:28

I mean it sounds to me that folk are pointing out the bleeding obvious: that Mumsnet FWR is (and always has been) used by posters with an ultimate patriarchal agenda to manipulate those who are naive enough to believe that trans rights are the single biggest issue facing women today.

So that is used as a smokescreen to convince women to agree with the wholesale devastation of reproductive services that are proven to save lives.

Because someone, somewhere was given testosterone once, right? So therefore we must stop access to all those life saving abortions, contraception, support for rape victims, treatment and prevention of STIs.

This board is not populated in the main by women who care about women, it is populated by those fueling an agenda that will ultimately work against women. As this thread demonstrates.

Mumsnet HR are fully aware of this by the way, they have access to the posting stats.

You have no evidence for this claim.
This is the announcement of a review.
Its a REVIEW of activity. Not a ban.
There should be no problem with the review as it does not review whether they offer the services that this quote from PP claims are under threat. '“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth
control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,”

Its the 'and more' activity that will be the sticking point. Whether this is part of the remit of Planned Parenthood at all is questionable as their services have an important role in SEX-based services, sexual health, reproduction, and cancer screening (presumably cancers connected to sex of the patient). The work with gender affirming care is not part of the services that the government wants to fund. There is no evidence that it wishes to (or will) defund the sex-based health services that PP is centred on. Testosterone is not a treatment for STI, cancer, and neither is it a birth control.

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 10:59

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:54

Well it's going to be difficult to fight for reproductive health if we can't use the word woman or talk about biology, and those few small steps haven't happened. We're busy dealing with real things.

Also, lawyers were arguing that roe vs wade was shaky from the start relying as it did on a tortuous argument. RBG who was pro choice said this and argued for state laws instead. The people who were unaware of this were very poorly informed.

Isn't it funny that the best countries in the world for women's reproductive healthcare also apparently don't know what a woman is? 🤔

NotBadConsidering · 26/03/2025 11:09

Well done everyone on helping him out.

You know, I’m in a Signal group chat with members of the Trump administration, and would you believe it?! Only yesterday they were thanking members of MN Sex and Gender forum for helping them out on this topic. How do you know this? Has someone leaked the chat?🧐

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/03/2025 11:18

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 10:59

Isn't it funny that the best countries in the world for women's reproductive healthcare also apparently don't know what a woman is? 🤔

That's the consequence of societies indulging in luxury beliefs instead of being focused on what really matters to citizens. It's allowed some of the most dangerous people in the world to weigh in on education, health and social policy. All in order to elevate the demands of men claiming to be women and suppress the rights of children to grow in safety and women to be safeguarded from harm from certain men

Chersfrozenface · 26/03/2025 11:20

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 10:59

Isn't it funny that the best countries in the world for women's reproductive healthcare also apparently don't know what a woman is? 🤔

Like Malta, where abortion is banned apart from very exceptional circumstances but which has self-ID, official recognition of non-binary genders, and free "gender-affirming surgeries"?

Or Iran, the state where the most state sponsored gender reassignment operations are performed? How are women's reproductive rights doing there?

nutmeg7 · 26/03/2025 11:21

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:40

You know, so much of this thread just sounds like an apologist's creed for Trump's overarching ultimate political agenda to keep women in their place.

Well done everyone on helping him out.

I’m reading this thread, and I think your reading comprehension seems to be poor, or you can’t see beyond an ideological position to understand anything more discursive.

Does everything to do with the US have to be so stupidly polarised and preachy?

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 11:43

Women's healthcare seems to be used as a tool for political leverage by both Republicans and Democrats in the US.

When I say 'tool', I could also say 'threat'.

Beowulfa · 26/03/2025 11:54

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 11:43

Women's healthcare seems to be used as a tool for political leverage by both Republicans and Democrats in the US.

When I say 'tool', I could also say 'threat'.

The RNLI is funded solely by donations and receives no government support. This means it is not subject to political short termism/personal grandstanding/ideological fashions. It just focusses on saving lives and has an extremely loyal supporter base. Although I instinctively think a civilised society should be funding such a vital service, perhaps their approach should be more widely copied.

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 11:59

Doesn't always work. Amnesty is an NGO, and they've been just as captured. See also Liberty.

anyolddinosaur · 26/03/2025 12:07

Lets hope MN are aware of how the TRAs consistently target this board and this site.

If PP stop sterilising children and go back to focusing on what they were set up for you'll have something to complain about.

What other people are losing funding? If there are organisations who dont sterilise children losing funding then tell us about them, although I dont know what people who live in other countries can do about it.

AlisonDonut · 26/03/2025 12:39

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 10:59

Isn't it funny that the best countries in the world for women's reproductive healthcare also apparently don't know what a woman is? 🤔

Are these 'best countries in the world for women's reproductive healthcare' in the room with you now?

Datun · 26/03/2025 12:51

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 09:22

Wild, isn't it?

It's pretty clear to me who mostly posts on FWR - feminists, mothers, women, in the main. UK based, a mixture politically but roughly centrist overall.

And who tries to shut FWR down?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5302188-barclays-boss-who-cancelled-mumsnet-turn-out-to-be-a-pal-of-jeffrey-epstein?reply=143110201

Who, indeed.

One thing's for sure you can guarantee that HQ have never been targeted by people motivated by child safe guarding and women's rights.

Hoardasurass · 26/03/2025 13:44

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 08:59

No threat whatsoever, just pointing out that Mumsnet are aware of how FWR is targeted, as it seems like many posters don't know this.

Targeted by whom? Posters like yourself, men or former labour supporters like myself who believe in women's rights and know that protecting them means taking on the women's groups who have be so corrupted by gender ideology that they are no longer fit for purpose much like planed parenthood?