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Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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Hoardasurass · 26/03/2025 13:52

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 09:17

And yet so many unprepared to stand up for the rights of millions of women to access life saving treatment, and happy to have this shut down for them.

No we want pp to go back to what they were set up to do. If they are incapable of putting women's needs 1st and ditch all the gender ideology and affirming care then they are not fit for purpose and need replacing with an organisation that can

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:10

anyolddinosaur · 26/03/2025 12:07

Lets hope MN are aware of how the TRAs consistently target this board and this site.

If PP stop sterilising children and go back to focusing on what they were set up for you'll have something to complain about.

What other people are losing funding? If there are organisations who dont sterilise children losing funding then tell us about them, although I dont know what people who live in other countries can do about it.

Spreading misinformation about planned parenthood is really intelligent of a board that claims to be feminist. I'm not sure how you think posting something like that makes you sound any different to the quacks who speak of PP murdering babies for body parts. Go on, how many children have they 'sterilised'?

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:24

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 09:41

Certain posters also seem to consistently fail to recognize that most posters here are in the UK and our right to contraception and abortion is not under threat at all, whereas our children and our rights are being harmed by gender ideology. Which has been fuelled by the activists within US based orgs like PP.

I do care about women's rights to abortion in the US, I tend to agree with RBG that enacting laws protecting abortion at the state level will be more successful and lasting long term and am heartened to see the progress already being made in many states (Florida is so close).

The way PP are behaving is just bonkers though and they don't seem to care enough about women and girls to put their blatant hatred of Trump to one side. Which makes me question a lot of things about them and the article linked up thread was just horrifying and paints PP as an organization more about political activism than ethical, high quality healthcare.

Abusing women for being critical thinkers and not just accepting illogical groupthink is very unlikely to change minds: see also, the last US election.

Certain posters also seem to consistently fail to recognize that most posters here are in the UK and our right to contraception and abortion is not under threat at all

Funding and lobbying against abortion in the UK has only increased in the last few years. It's not like efforts to decriminalise abortion up to 24 weeks which would actually protect women's right to abortion haven't been continually attacked and lobbied against by US funded anti choice groups. More women have been prosecuted for illegal abortions since 2022 than since it was first criminalised in the 1800s. The blase attitude to a key issue of women's rights is staggering.

Hoardasurass · 26/03/2025 14:36

@Kankangeroo you do realise that we are the ones at the coal face fighting to protect women's rights which all fall the moment we lose the ability to talk about them or have a single word for women that excludes all males. If and when a politician is stupid enough to bring a bill forward to make abortion illegal in the UK we will deal with that until then we will keep fighting all the anti-women policies brought in by the gender idealogs.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:38

Hoardasurass · 26/03/2025 14:36

@Kankangeroo you do realise that we are the ones at the coal face fighting to protect women's rights which all fall the moment we lose the ability to talk about them or have a single word for women that excludes all males. If and when a politician is stupid enough to bring a bill forward to make abortion illegal in the UK we will deal with that until then we will keep fighting all the anti-women policies brought in by the gender idealogs.

You're at the coalface of women's rights and you don't know abortion is technically criminal. Okay sure. Thank god you're on the team👍🏻

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:41

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:10

Spreading misinformation about planned parenthood is really intelligent of a board that claims to be feminist. I'm not sure how you think posting something like that makes you sound any different to the quacks who speak of PP murdering babies for body parts. Go on, how many children have they 'sterilised'?

'Over 35,000 of Planned Parenthood's patients nationwide sought gender-affirming hormone replacement therapy in 2021, and that number doesn't include trans and nonbinary people who relied on other services, according to Kumar. '

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/14/1115875421/gender-affirming-care-abortion-clinics

'Long-term gender-affirming hormone treatment may cause temporary or even permanent infertility.'

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/

That was a ten second google, I didn't find a number of surgeries carried out.

How gender-affirming care may be impacted when clinics that offer abortions close

After a Planned Parenthood in Knoxville, Tenn., burned down in January, patients relying on gender-affirming care scrambled to find support elsewhere.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/14/1115875421/gender-affirming-care-abortion-clinics

thenoisiesttermagant · 26/03/2025 14:44

Ah, trying to convince someone to your point of view with rudeness -unlikely to work here I'm afraid. It's a bit mansplainy.

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:45

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care/our-services/gender-affirming-care

'Planned Parenthood is proud to provide a safe and welcoming place to get gender-affirming care. We offer services to transgender women, transgender men, and nonbinary people.
Services include:

  • Estrogen and anti-androgen hormone therapy
  • Testosterone hormone therapy
  • Puberty blockers
  • Surgery referrals
  • Transition support (social, legal)
  • Other '

Gender Affirming Care

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care/our-services/gender-affirming-care

Hoardasurass · 26/03/2025 14:48

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:38

You're at the coalface of women's rights and you don't know abortion is technically criminal. Okay sure. Thank god you're on the team👍🏻

Yes and so is giving a patient surgery to amputate a limb outside of medical nessccity it's exactly the same with abortions legal in certain circumstances illegal in others. But please keep up the blatant scare tactics as it shows newcomers what to expect from your side

Soontobe60 · 26/03/2025 14:48

suggestionsplease1 · 26/03/2025 08:28

I mean it sounds to me that folk are pointing out the bleeding obvious: that Mumsnet FWR is (and always has been) used by posters with an ultimate patriarchal agenda to manipulate those who are naive enough to believe that trans rights are the single biggest issue facing women today.

So that is used as a smokescreen to convince women to agree with the wholesale devastation of reproductive services that are proven to save lives.

Because someone, somewhere was given testosterone once, right? So therefore we must stop access to all those life saving abortions, contraception, support for rape victims, treatment and prevention of STIs.

This board is not populated in the main by women who care about women, it is populated by those fueling an agenda that will ultimately work against women. As this thread demonstrates.

Mumsnet HR are fully aware of this by the way, they have access to the posting stats.

And you know this how?

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:49

Their last annual report doesn't give clear info or spell out the numbers. 'Transgender services' is lumped in along with various other services.

'Other Procedures 177,237'

Some examples in this category include WIC services (a federally funded
nutrition program for low-income women, infants, and children up to the
age of five), pediatric care, transgender services, other adult preventive
care, and high complexity visits, including infertility services.'

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/facts-figures/annual-report

As a vague comparator:

'Abortion Procedures 392,715'

Planned Parenthood Annual Report

The Annual Report look at the many ways Planned Parenthood is striving to create the healthiest generation ever. The report also lists Board members.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/facts-figures/annual-report

illinivich · 26/03/2025 14:49

If posters want women in the UK to give financial and other support to PP, i can think of more effective ways that insulting women here.

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:50

illinivich · 26/03/2025 14:49

If posters want women in the UK to give financial and other support to PP, i can think of more effective ways that insulting women here.

I don't think that was the aim, was it? I thought it was a general desperate attempt to smear UK feminists as 'rightwing'.

The usual bollocks.

nutmeg7 · 26/03/2025 14:56

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:50

I don't think that was the aim, was it? I thought it was a general desperate attempt to smear UK feminists as 'rightwing'.

The usual bollocks.

Ah, American culture war stuff. Yawn.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:57

Hoardasurass · 26/03/2025 14:48

Yes and so is giving a patient surgery to amputate a limb outside of medical nessccity it's exactly the same with abortions legal in certain circumstances illegal in others. But please keep up the blatant scare tactics as it shows newcomers what to expect from your side

You're comparing taking abortion pills to amputating a limb and I'm the one with blatant scare tactics...?

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:00

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:41

'Over 35,000 of Planned Parenthood's patients nationwide sought gender-affirming hormone replacement therapy in 2021, and that number doesn't include trans and nonbinary people who relied on other services, according to Kumar. '

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/14/1115875421/gender-affirming-care-abortion-clinics

'Long-term gender-affirming hormone treatment may cause temporary or even permanent infertility.'

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/

That was a ten second google, I didn't find a number of surgeries carried out.

That's not an answer to the question though is it. Providing an adult with same sex hormones iant sterilising a child. Such a smearing allegation to an organisation that is constantly smeared by antichoice campaigners should have substantiated evidence.

Soontobe60 · 26/03/2025 15:02

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:10

Spreading misinformation about planned parenthood is really intelligent of a board that claims to be feminist. I'm not sure how you think posting something like that makes you sound any different to the quacks who speak of PP murdering babies for body parts. Go on, how many children have they 'sterilised'?

I imagine it’s the same number of children whom they have handed puberty blockers out to.

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 15:03

Providing an adult with same sex hormones iant sterilising a child.

That's not what 'gender-affirming hormone replacement therapy' is. That means cross sex hormones. And/or puberty blockers.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:03

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 14:50

I don't think that was the aim, was it? I thought it was a general desperate attempt to smear UK feminists as 'rightwing'.

The usual bollocks.

Is saying it's dangerous to parrot right wing smearing of a service that is under constant attack by right wing groups because in most places it's the sole provider of abortion smearing UK feminists as right wing?

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:04

Soontobe60 · 26/03/2025 15:02

I imagine it’s the same number of children whom they have handed puberty blockers out to.

How many is that then?

nutmeg7 · 26/03/2025 15:05

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 14:57

You're comparing taking abortion pills to amputating a limb and I'm the one with blatant scare tactics...?

In what is this scare tactics??

It just draws a parallel between the legal status of abortion and limb amputation I.e. both are illegal except under specific, well-defined circumstances.

It doesn’t draw a parallel between the procedures in anything other sense.

nutmeg7 · 26/03/2025 15:07

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:04

How many is that then?

Arabella has just listed all their stats. Perhaps you could go and read? Just a few posts up thread.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:07

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2025 15:03

Providing an adult with same sex hormones iant sterilising a child.

That's not what 'gender-affirming hormone replacement therapy' is. That means cross sex hormones. And/or puberty blockers.

And again an adult taking said hormones isn't a child be sterilised. There's making an intelligent case for not wanting PP to be involved in gender affirming healthcare and then there's making outlandish claims to smear the organisation that don't sound far off the antichoicers propaganda about what PP do for abortion.

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:09

nutmeg7 · 26/03/2025 15:05

In what is this scare tactics??

It just draws a parallel between the legal status of abortion and limb amputation I.e. both are illegal except under specific, well-defined circumstances.

It doesn’t draw a parallel between the procedures in anything other sense.

Edited

Because a woman's right and needs to access abortion isn't anywhere similar to a person's wish to amputate a limb so defend them having the same legal status isn't a very good perspective for someone who claims to care about women's rights.

Soontobe60 · 26/03/2025 15:11

Kankangeroo · 26/03/2025 15:04

How many is that then?

Sadly, but unsurprisingly, PP dont seem to declare this information - I wonder why?
Abortion provider Planned Parenthood is now the second largest provider of gender hormone therapies in the United States. In 2022, Planned Parenthood reported that 41 out of its 49 affiliated facilities provided gender transition services, including puberty blockers for minors, as well as estrogen and testosterone.
Despite the large number of Planned Parenthood affiliates offering gender transition services, the exact number of these services performed is unknown because this information is captured in the organization’s annual reports under the broad label of “Other Procedures,” which also includes pediatric care, preventative care, and infertility services. According to Planned Parenthood’s 2022 annual report, the organization performed 17,791 “Other Procedures” in 2020 and 256,550 in 2021—a more than 1,400 percent spike. In addition to the lack of transparency on the total number of gender transition related procedures in Planned Parenthood’s report, it remains unclear what training Planned Parenthood providers have to perform such services and what measures it takes to ensure appropriate parental consent. _
During the 2021-2022 fiscal year, Planned Parenthood received $670.4 million in taxpayer funding, raising the question of whether the organization uses Americans’ tax dollars to fund gender transition services, even for children. _
“I am troubled that your organization buried data on the breadth of the services it provides. Gender transition services are experimental at best and permanently damaging at worst,” continued Dr. Cassidy. “Therefore, the American people deserve to have the full picture of the gender transition services your organization provides to ensure no taxpayer dollars fund these procedures

https://www.help.senate.gov/rep/newsroom/press/ranking-member-cassidy-calls-out-planned-parenthoods-opaque-reporting-and-questions-its-use-of-taxpayer-dollars-to-fund-gender-transition-services

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/db/88/db881467-f6e5-47a3-a6a3-2c7d3ea545e0/gac2.pdf