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Lesbian mistaken for trans woman in woman's bathroom in Arizona

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Christinapple · 05/03/2025 10:53

https://www.advocate.com/news/lesbian-mistaken-transgender-arizona-walmart

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/masculine-looking-cis-woman-confronted-by-cops-in-walmart-restroom-kalaya-morton-demands-justice-video/ar-AA1AdWpn

But I thought people "can always tell"?

It also led to the irony the only males in the bathroom were two male police officers who were notified by a store employee who mistakenly thought a male had entered the woman's toilets.

"In an alarming incident at a Tucson, Arizona Walmart, 19-year-old Kalaya Morton*, a Black cisgender lesbian, was confronted by two male sheriff’s deputies while using the women’s restroom, sparking outrage and a demand for accountability.
Morton, who identifies as masculine-presenting or a “stud,” recounted the humiliating encounter that occurred when a store employee erroneously assumed she was a transgender woman. The saga began innocuously enough: Morton had entered the restroom with her ex-girlfriend, who was kindly handing her a tampon— an act of friendship that, unfortunately, soon spiraled into something far more troubling. In an exclusive interview with The Advocate, Morton detailed her shock when the two deputies barged in, shining flashlights into the restroom stall.

“You have to get out of here. You have to come out. We need to talk to you.” Imagine trying to pee in peace, only to have the police storm in like it’s an episode of Cops: Restroom Edition.
“I’m still using the restroom. I’m sitting down, I’m peeing. What is the issue?,” Morton incredulously told the deputies as she sat there.
Now, while most people hope for a streamlined bathroom experience, Morton was treated more like a suspect than a bathroom user. The deputies apparently needed to crack the case of “Who Looks Like a Man in the Ladies’ Room,” a particularly absurd mystery, if you ask us."

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justteanbiscuits · 06/03/2025 15:03

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2025 13:27

Have you missed my posts about my friends?? To outline it more clearly would be way too outing, but because she is tall, (under 6ft though so not THAt tall), some high profile anti trans people tried to ruin her life. And tried to fuck up the lives of her children.

None of us have any clue who you're referring to.

So, if I don't state which people it was it didn't happen? Does it matter who the high profile people were? If I refuse to say, due to it being very outing, will you not believe me?

justteanbiscuits · 06/03/2025 15:05

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/03/2025 13:51

It's all whataboutery. Vague hand waving and smears designed to accuse women on here of responsibility for a highly dubious "toilet incident " in Tucson Arizona.

The irony of someone claiming to have confidential NHS data (unable to be shared) about the lack of incidents of abuse of women in NHS 🙄 Given everything we know about NHS's staff's abysmal behaviour in concealing evidence from the police about a woman raped on an NHS ward by a transwoman in one hospital and the disgraceful revelations about NHS Fife's complete lack of risk assessments, failure to comply with the law and open targeting of a woman nurse for refusing to undress in front of a male doctor who required her undressed presence to validate him.

All designed (and failing) to coerce women into ceasing demands for single sex spaces with no men of any sort present.

Please show me where I said it was about the lack of incidents???

I said they help the information and said how to get the information.

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 15:06

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justteanbiscuits · 06/03/2025 15:07

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2025 14:21

justteanbiscuits you are using as the basis of your aguments research that you've done for work, that you can't share with us because it's outing, and an anecdote about a friend of yours and some other unnamed people.

I understand that you don't want to share information that's outing. But it effectively means you're coming on here to berate women for the actions of anonymous unspecified people, using arguments that are apparently supported by data that we can't access.

It's not going to be a very productive discussion, I'm afraid.

I am berating the women who say it's acceptable for other women to abuse women. I am berating those that think it's acceptable to accuse women of "being men". I am berating those who claim it doesn't happen, or the original post was a one off and doesn't really happen.

That is all.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 06/03/2025 15:07

justteanbiscuits · 06/03/2025 15:02

You know what they say about assume.

My point is, by focusing on transwomen, men are carrying on with no spotlight. And that spotlight is needed.

Transwomen are men.

AnSolas · 06/03/2025 15:08

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 11:03

Babe you're really embarrassing yourself, please I beg you Google how the internet works for one second. It's not a coincidence that only people obsessed with tweeting about trans people's genitals (sorry for the explicit term 😂) are regularly getting these videos AND keep getting them (because they're watching through and engaging!)

Babe?

Such an evocative word which prompts such sweet memories.
Is there anything as sweet a slobbering perv who hangs out by the door to the Ladies, and has no idea who you (Babe) is but lives in hope that Babe is too drunk notice the creepy pickup lines?

Babe, its just too too cute for words.

Lets try some affirmations?

• I believe that EM purchased Twitter as it was a solid investment for a great divident yield and a secure capital.
• I believe that Twitter was and is not able to break out its user base and categorise it individual accounts into niche sociopolitical sub-classes.
• I believe that prior to the sale senior Twitter staff were not openly discussing how they were engaged in social engineering by coding in targeted supression of individual users, for ideas or tweets they did not agree with.
• I believe the Staniland question is not required as TRA will accept that human biology has resulted in 2 sex class, one of which should not be in female spaces.
• I believe that TRA on Twitter are not abusively taging women who speak out in support of single sex spaces with images of sex acts.

But sure, I will google how Twitter works and why the woke bros had a meltdown when Twitter was sold at a knockdown price.

justteanbiscuits · 06/03/2025 15:08

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2025 15:03

My point is, by focusing on transwomen, men are carrying on with no spotlight. And that spotlight is needed.

You are free to campaign in a way that you think is effective. It isn't anything to do with you what other people focus on.

I am sharing my opinion. And the reasons behind that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2025 15:09

So, if I don't state which people it was it didn't happen? Does it matter who the high profile people were? If I refuse to say, due to it being very outing, will you not believe me?

I can't say it didn't happen, but unless I know the details I'm not going to know how accurate you're being in your account. Plus, it's not relevant to me in any way.

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 15:09

SinnerBoy · 06/03/2025 15:00

Presumably, all the girls and women who've received unsolicited dick pics via email, WhatsApp etc asked for it because algorithms?

That's exactly what's not being discussed is it though? We're discussing twitter but it wouldn't be the first time a man thinks he has a clever comment to make that adds nothing to a discussion.

eatfigs · 06/03/2025 15:10

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Okay this is undoubtedly a troll. Well done for catching our attention, I guess.

TinselAngel · 06/03/2025 15:11

TRAs went through a phase of sending me gifs of shitting dogs. I can assure you I've not encouraged that via any kind of algorithm.

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 15:11

AnSolas · 06/03/2025 15:08

Babe?

Such an evocative word which prompts such sweet memories.
Is there anything as sweet a slobbering perv who hangs out by the door to the Ladies, and has no idea who you (Babe) is but lives in hope that Babe is too drunk notice the creepy pickup lines?

Babe, its just too too cute for words.

Lets try some affirmations?

• I believe that EM purchased Twitter as it was a solid investment for a great divident yield and a secure capital.
• I believe that Twitter was and is not able to break out its user base and categorise it individual accounts into niche sociopolitical sub-classes.
• I believe that prior to the sale senior Twitter staff were not openly discussing how they were engaged in social engineering by coding in targeted supression of individual users, for ideas or tweets they did not agree with.
• I believe the Staniland question is not required as TRA will accept that human biology has resulted in 2 sex class, one of which should not be in female spaces.
• I believe that TRA on Twitter are not abusively taging women who speak out in support of single sex spaces with images of sex acts.

But sure, I will google how Twitter works and why the woke bros had a meltdown when Twitter was sold at a knockdown price.

I think you need to re- read over that and correct your typos. Unless you're genuinely saying you don't think the most basic SM algorithm can categorise it's users. If so, where have you been?

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 15:12

eatfigs · 06/03/2025 15:10

Okay this is undoubtedly a troll. Well done for catching our attention, I guess.

I'm a troll because you recognise that all your SM is geared towards this issue? And every account you come across either affirms your view or rage baits you? Sure.

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2025 15:13

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'Babe'. Get a more productive hobby.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2025 15:14

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2025 14:21

justteanbiscuits you are using as the basis of your aguments research that you've done for work, that you can't share with us because it's outing, and an anecdote about a friend of yours and some other unnamed people.

I understand that you don't want to share information that's outing. But it effectively means you're coming on here to berate women for the actions of anonymous unspecified people, using arguments that are apparently supported by data that we can't access.

It's not going to be a very productive discussion, I'm afraid.

This, exactly.

CautiousLurker01 · 06/03/2025 15:16

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 14:37

It's a joke referencing how often prominent TERFs share their screenshots and you can see trans porn saved videos saved in their bookmarks.

Again I don't believe you at all that it is TRAs. You all sound so naive about the internet it's almost like you don't understand there are fake / rage baiting accounts. After all these "TRA" accounts serve their exact purpose in perpetuating your world view don't they? Convenient!

Erm… what a load of bollocks. You cannot see on any SM site what people have saved in their bookmarks. When you resort to making stuff up it undermines your position.

I have, like many here, had a lot of porn - and ‘watch my sex cam’ DMs - sent to my inbox in X/twitter over the years on a ‘professional’ and non political account. Not made a single mention of genitalia, just books. On that account I don’t follow politics or ‘this’ issue, but so follow professionals of all political persuasions and expressly ignore anything unrelated to publishing/writing/academia. Oh, and I may have liked a launch tweet about JKRs latest book launch. That’s all it takes to get obscene material sent to you.

eatfigs · 06/03/2025 15:17

https://x.com/speakoutsister/status/1897265583433142668

Turns out this thread was linked to yesterday by a transactivist account. Makes sense now why we're getting their low quality arguments littering up the thread.

https://x.com/speakoutsister/status/1897265583433142668

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 06/03/2025 15:17

Babe?

🤮

(Autocarrot tried to turn it into 'babel'. Which would have also made sense.)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2025 15:17

Aha.

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 15:17

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2025 15:13

'Babe'. Get a more productive hobby.

Truth hurts? 😂
Why don't you open a new SM account and see how much your feeds are swamped by this issue as a base level. If I'm wrong you'll still see it everywhere and come across all this porn still won't you?
I think given how PP have shown how uninformed and naive they are about the internet, I think my hobby of informing you how it works is a pretty good one. Especially seen as your internet culture war is resulting in GNC women being harassed in the real world. But somehow that's their own fault for how they dress or it's TRAs faults that's been the line of this thread so far, couldn't possible be the fault of someone radicalised to hypervigilance online like PP who agreed with the police coming and would call them themslves. Bit hypocritical to be quoting DARVO when this thread has been a example of it.

AnSolas · 06/03/2025 15:19

Lark1ane · 06/03/2025 11:11

Reading over these latest contributions, I think someone has already lost their mind and doesn't need any help.

Going back years through a woman's posts to try and find a reference to the word dick, and then reposting them with the word dick highlighted, is very odd behaviour. imo.

It reminds me of a silly kid who likes to say rude words like tit and bum for shitz and giggles.

Boiled's Tunnock word count over the years would be something to post about.
But I imagine too much like hard work, once fingers and toes to add up on, are all used up.

Its the same crap that is rolled out against the Staniland question.

When asked the individual could not answer so they opt to try demean the person who asks the question.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 06/03/2025 15:21

Babe 😂😂😂

Helpmelosemymind · 06/03/2025 15:22

CautiousLurker01 · 06/03/2025 15:16

Erm… what a load of bollocks. You cannot see on any SM site what people have saved in their bookmarks. When you resort to making stuff up it undermines your position.

I have, like many here, had a lot of porn - and ‘watch my sex cam’ DMs - sent to my inbox in X/twitter over the years on a ‘professional’ and non political account. Not made a single mention of genitalia, just books. On that account I don’t follow politics or ‘this’ issue, but so follow professionals of all political persuasions and expressly ignore anything unrelated to publishing/writing/academia. Oh, and I may have liked a launch tweet about JKRs latest book launch. That’s all it takes to get obscene material sent to you.

Erm no it's not a load of bollocks 😂 I'm talking about when people share a screenshot of their screen and you see their bookmarked websites.

I'm not doubting anyone can see porn on twitter as I said twitter is full of porn. But if you are regularly seeing porn of trans individuals especially and especially in toilets on threads or your FYP it's because you are engaging in that algorithm, that's literally how it works. You can argue it all you want but you can't change the facts. You can literally test it and see - start a blank account and see how long it takes for you to randomly unprovoked get trans porn on your feed. You won't.

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 06/03/2025 15:25

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/03/2025 13:17

Who is "allowing the non transwoman men to continue"? It's just nonsense, sorry.

By specifiying a category of men as "non transwoman men", it is an inadvertent admission on the part of that poster that they recognise that TW are a category of men, the "transwoman men".

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