Ireland

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Reading about the Sandi Peggy case and the various issues that have arisen in Scotland - the rape crisis centre, secret cameras in mixed sex toilets in schools, Isla Bryson, Katies Dolatowski etc - it makes me think, is there just as much issues in Ireland?

i know Barbie Kardashian, the male player on a women’s GAA team. Are there as many issues in Ireland as there is in Scotland, but not really reported on in Ireland?

Very interesting they also say ‘in solidarity with our trans sisters and trans community’... I mean, the trans ‘sisters’ they mention are really the menz - so that’s who the bloody women’s council are cheering for.
You couldn’t make it up.

I think this is the point where Glinner pops up and says Ireland has always been run by blokes in dresses...

I can't help thinking of Starmer holding a St Patrick's Day event in No10, and making a big deal of it, and being pictured with a drag queen. No disrespect to the individual, who I don't know, but it's always fucking drag queens.

The Irish nation is composed of two sexes: men, and Panti Bliss (or May McFettridge if you're in the north)

Yes, as a blow-in Brit in NI my impression of the unionist point of view is that a lot of them wish to be considered British only in the sense of being not-Irish, but they'd be horrified to be mistaken for being actually from GB. If you dropped them off in Bedfordshire they'd feel as much at home as if they'd landed in Tuvalu.

Colette Colfer on how Ireland is going in the opposite direction to the UK as almost every NGO, union and government department is heavily influenced by powerful lgbtqi activists.
colettecolfer.substack.com/p/the-gendrification-of-ireland-20?r=7ejsi&triedRedirect=true

But that’s the crux of the matter isn’t it. These kids always have something else going on. So why we give these ideologies any airtime at all baffles me. I identified as a zebra and occasionally as a giraffe until I was about 6 (and didn’t have any other issues going on); thank goodness the adults didn’t take it seriously. I often wonder if people have actually gone mad.

If I were that Wil Hos parent, I would have been absolutely livid at the teachers there. Enoch and his family are ghastly but absolutely correct in this particular case.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/mary-lou-mcdonald-says-discussion-on-gender-equality-must-start-from-position-of-respect/a96191550.html
I didn't see the Late Late Show interview with Mary Lou.
The Supreme Court judgement has put SF in a difficult position. While NI isn't directly impacted by the judgment, it would be likely to have significant weight.
In the Republic, a woman remains a feeling in someone's head.

Reading between the lines in the link above, I don't think Mary Lou is planning on backing women.
I wonder how much influence her brother Bea has on SF policy. He doesn't seem to be overly respectful himself.

https://x.com/Dawson40M/status/1915892846118211986?t=FovQ-Ri1R7fhXMrxS99jVg&s=1

https://x.com/GenderReceipts/status/1916194048253034571?t=Bjui96WGhh3tJ028am8ASw&s=19

This man is just awful. And yet 50% of the Irish population are being denied their safety and dignity because of him and men like him.

Mary Lou can't be leader forever, although Gerry had a good stab at doing so.

SF in the north has already deviated from TWAW. You'd think that eventually the boys who really run SF will have a talk with Mary Lou, or find an alternative leader.

I've emailed all the TDs in my constituency to say I'm delighted for women in the UK and ask that their parties support open discussion on this. I know there's no chance with some of them (one of them is a SocDem) but our politicians and media seem to love saying that Irish people are above such base British interests as sex based rights.

The absolute hypocrisy of Mary Lou to demand respect while praising Bea in the same interview

“She’s compassionate and clever and accomplished. And she’s loved without measure and unconditionally, and I want her to live a full and authentic life, and I want that for every human being."

Bea being respectful and compassionate ⬇

https://x.com/GenderReceipts/status/1772685025596654078?t=I8kNBhH1clNmbOur4VhkpQ&s=19
Of course Mary Lou loves her brother. But it's clear that she is emotionally involved and it is reasonable to suspect that, as a result, she is compromised in her ability to form a fair and balanced policy which takes women rights into account.

By the way the other day I started this thread to keep a record of responses to the SC ruling from Irish politicians:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5317909-responses-to-sc-ruling-from-irish-politicians?reply=143735321

If you haven't read Gary Gannon's Substack on it, I'm sorry for bringing it to your attention.

I mean, when it comes to SF taking women into account, we might ask Mairia Cahill for an opinion.

There's definitely a correlation between not taking women seriously if a man has a special gender identity, and not taking women seriously if a man is in the IRA.

Thanks @Mermoose I had missed that.
Gary Gannon is an absolute gobsh*te.

Thank you very much for this Nebulousbiologist. I didn't see the Late Late, and was only vaguely aware that she had a trans sibling, so this info is very welcome.

The first link seems to have been removed... what was it? was it the original offensive tweet by any chance?
No matter- the other links record just how downright nasty 'Bea' is.

Being nasty about Posie Parker is 'normal' for TRAs, but to gloat over someone's death takes a special, highly-developed, finely-tuned nastiness.
I get that it's her brother, but if my brother tweeted stuff like that, I wouldn't use the words compassionate and clever and accomplished to describe him, I'd be ashamed.

Mary Lou's job has been to soften up SF's image, to move it away from its violent connections and make it palatable to the general public.
Somebody needs to do something similar for her brother.

I don't know why the first link isn't working. It worked earlier.
I have attached screenshots

And this does so often seem to be the case, for various politicians, in many countries.

Wow, he is a really nasty piece of work, isn't he.

He seems to have deleted that account. I wonder if he is still abusing women through an anonymous account though.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0427/1509720-politics/

MEP Regina Doherty not sure if 2022 evidence on gender would 'stand up today'
Updated / Sunday, 27 Apr 2025 12:34
By Juliette Gash

Dublin MEP Regina Doherty has said she is not sure if evidence she gave in the Seanad in 2022 that there are nine genders would stand up to scrutiny today, after being criticised by Senator Michael McDowell.
On RTÉ's The Week in Politics, Ms Doherty was asked about Independent Senator McDowell’s article in the Irish Times earlier this week.
In the article, Senator McDowell said: "To the best of my knowledge, neither she nor any of her colleagues in government ever attempted to enumerate these other genders, despite many requests that they should do so."
Ms Doherty said she normally would not respond when someone tries to make a political weapon of an issue, but added:
"For all my political life what I’ve tried to do is to support transgender people, to support people who have a medical condition, that are undergoing a transition, that are exceptionally vulnerable, and all they're trying to do is to live a normal life, the same way as you and I would.
"That's something that we probably take for granted, when I see politicians trying to polarise and politicise this issue ... it makes me really sad."
Ms Doherty was Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection when a review of the Gender Recognition Act was carried out in 2017.
Speaking on the programme in Brussels, Ms Doherty said: "These are vulnerable people, there’s a tiny percentage of the population, but unfortunately it's growing that have been treated by our gender services, and we need to treat them with respect, notwithstanding the issues that women have raised.
"You don't need to address women's issues by politicising people who have a medical condition who are exceptionally vulnerable, as Michael McDowell has sought to do, and I think that's a real pity, and it's not something that I've ever done, and I mightn't have got everything right, and I really don't know, you know, whether the evidence that I gave based on the interactions that I had with TENI at the time would stand up today."
Transgender Equality Network Ireland (TENI) represents transgender people and their families and advocated for Minister Doherty (as she was at the time) to lower the age of gender self-identification.
The article by Senator McDowell followed a decision by the UK Supreme Court that ruled that sex is binary, and that the legal definition of a woman and a man are based on biological sex at birth.
Following that decision, Sinn Féin TD David Cullinane said on social media that the ruling was "common sense", an opinion he later withdrew.
Sinn Féin MEP Lynn Boylan was asked about her party colleague on The Week in Politics.
She said that Deputy Cullinane was right to withdraw the remarks.
"I have trans people in my circle of friends and have known trans people for years. Trans people exist, and that's what they want, is the right to exist. And I feel that they're now being, it's been completely weaponised.
"They're under attack on all fronts. And we need to show compassion and empathy for the trans community, who are getting dragged into fights and political rows that they don't even want to be involved in, and I will always stand by the trans community."
Pressed on whether she represented the Sinn Féin position, Ms Boylan said: "We have had our Ard Fheis motions in terms of gender recognition and the right of people to express their gender, and that is party policy."

Interesting that she is referring to being trans as having a medical condition. I thought the TRA dogma is that it's not a medical condition but just who they are?

https://genspect.substack.com/p/break-the-silence?r=7ejsi&triedRedirect=true
Following Eilis O'Hanlon'so critique of RTE last week, this is an interesting article from Colette Colfer.

https://www.cnam.ie/have-your-say-on-the-future-of-public-service-media/
👆Link to the Coimisiun na Mean survey on public service media
As Colette Colfer points out in her article above

"What makes the situation in Ireland even worse is that complaints about the destruction of broadcasting freedom are pointless, because the agency responsible for upholding impartiality is the same agency involved in the National LGBTI+ Inclusion Strategy (Coimisiún na Meán). The fact that the National Union of Journalists is affiliated with the Irish Congress of Trade Union - which is also a participant in the Strategy - makes the situation even worse. The avenues for complaint are effectively closed."
I think it is important to get the message across that signing up to the strategy give the impression that public service media such as RTE cannot be impartial on this issue.
Responses are anonymous.

This is infuriating
I really don't know, you know, whether the evidence that I gave based on the interactions that I had with TENI at the time would stand up today."
Transgender Equality Network Ireland (TENI) represents transgender people and their families and advocated for Minister Doherty (as she was at the time) to lower the age of gender self-identification.
Lowering the age of consent for this was something that should have followed robust research and scrutiny.
She seems to have just followed the guidance of a lobby group with a very specific agenda. I think BelongTo were also involved.
I would ask where the safeguarding was but I think most of the people who should have been looking out for children were lgbtqi allies.
But, she seems more annoyed at McDowell's criticism than shocked by her own failure to protect children.

It was clear then that Regina Doherty minister didn’t have a clue. Especially when she suggested there were about nine genders. She had been indoctrinated by the Irish Stonewall called TENI. She’s now backtracking somewhat.

TENI were involved in financial Scandal relatively recently and have had a change of personnel.

The good news is schools are wiser now and unlikely to allow such organisations in to preach to the children.

I’m not sure about the t r a ns being in 23hr solitary, I did watch paddy o gorman interview women from prison, they said men often in as trans not in solitary, and I’d imagined they wouldn’t want to elect for women’s prison if they were automatically subject to solitary?