Neil Gaiman Accused Of Sexual Assault Pt III

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A continuation of threads 1 & 2 now that things have moved on considerably, what with further episodes on the Tortoise podcast and the Vulture Article which blew the story out further into the mainstream

Previous Threads:

Thread 1: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5112128-neil-gaiman-accused-of-sexual-assault

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5150957-neil-gaiman-accused-of-sexual-assault-pt-ii

Podcasts & Vulture Article:
Tortoise:https://www.tortoisemedia.com/listen/master-the-allegations-against-neil-gaiman

Am I Broken? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s4-ep2-claire-i-ignored-it-and-i-believed-him-because/id1491575384?i=1000663604978

Vulture Article (archive): https://archive.is/HJtxW

Just walk away girls. You have the power to do it. Girl power as they say.

Absolutely. However I don't think it's worth engaging with trollish comments to the contrary. All they've done is highlight their complete lack of empathy and a complete misunderstanding of basic human psychology. Best to grey rock.

Everyone here thinks women are infants with the IQ of an 11 year old who are incapable of making rational decisions like not getting into compromising situations with strange men. I avoid dark alleys late at night. I've had feminists saying you have the right to walk down that alley. Yeah, I do but I'm still not going to do it because I am careful about my safety.

It's good that Comics Jimmy Savile is still being discussed.

I'm quite sure he hopes that this will all blow over and his awful disgusting abusive predatory behaviour will not result in well deserved criminal convictions and complete ignominy.

I rather hope the opposite

Scientologists' Jimmy Savile more like. Well trained, well protected.

Yes, I do think the Scientology part is relevant. Scientology seems unusually prone towards treating people like things, even by the standards of cults

There's certainly something very reminiscent of Danny Masterson.

https://www.vulture.com/article/neil-gaiman-sexual-assault-lawsuit-dismissed.html

I hope she refilles in New Zealand.

There'll be an anguished iM subJecT to a w1tChHuNt interview imminently

A classic of the genre here

https://www.standard.co.uk/panewsfeeds/no-victory-after-dlt-verdicts-9126007.html

He’s not been found not guilty, merely the court has ruled they don’t have jurisdiction on a crime committed overseas.

I feel Scarlett has been advised very badly and possibly ripped off by lawyers.

Reanimating this thread to say it is so fucking weird to choose the first working day after 3million files relating to sex traffickers, pedophiles and the abuse of women and children to release a statement about how you learned first hand how a smear campaign works and you’re the victim. Bad bad to be a sexually incontinent powerful white man, clearly. Neil Gaiman needs to just FUCK OFF.

Oh he's resurfaced?

Quick check on nitter reveals he's done some interview in Variety.

He's not still getting work is he?

This apparently has triggered his reappearance and has given him hope that it will lead to everyone seeing him as the good guy again: https://archive.ph/OgSJx

That was the introduction, and was bonkers enough, but the author was only getting into their stride for the second part: https://archive.ph/hGeOP

Neil Gaiman Is Innocent: The Nazi-TERF Alliance
Press releases were sent out on the day of the accusations' publication. The recipients are a who's-who of right wing culture warriors, TERFs and embittered conservative pariahs. But it gets worse.

Oh what a surprise. Yuck.

Had a feeling something like this might happen, though, as it had gone so quiet. Classic DARVO playbook from Mr Son of Scientology there and I feel so bad for Scarlett. And the others.

And yeah, as for his fanboy weirdo, believing women exist as a material reality and not agreeing we should be subservient to male sexual fetishes doesn't make us right wing, let alone frigging Nazis Personally, I'd be 100% certain I have more actual "left wing" principles and am more caring of human rights than either abusive predatory squillionaire Neil "NDA" Gaiman or any of his gullible, woman-hating enablers.

Be interesting to see if there are any Scientology links in the Epstein files. JE clearly saw himself as a man of letters and influence

Unless there's a link to specific individuals - and you never know, he collected celebrities - this throwaway reference is the best I can do.
EFTA01756906.pdf

I couldn’t read the second screed (why does he keep writing Julie BLindel? Is it some kind of dig at her or is he just incompetent?). The first was ridiculous. “They seemed more than a little cruel towards Gaiman’s shellshocked fans, who overall are a sensitive bunch. So, I narrowed my eyes at this overall scene of bullying and self-righteous sadism and felt like something underhand might be at play.” He didn’t like the attitude to some frankly irrelevant people and therefore went out to find as much as he could to discredit the story.

As a man I don’t believe he would have a clue what that sort of coercion is like. Therefore on his own terms, I dismiss him as he dismisses the women in the story.

(I can’t believe he makes his living as a journalist. He’s a terrible writer!)

"bullying self righteous sadism" is particularly falling given the accusations

I skimmed it. It seems to be saying "people I don't like, and people who post on this dodgy website have made nasty comments about Neil Gaiman, which means he must be innocent".

If you're interested you can go to the "investigation" of a trans activist called Technopathology:

https://technopathology.substack.com/p/neil-gaiman-is-innocent-here-comes

However, I'm wary of clicking links to webpages controlled by committed, and possibly unhinged, trans activists which is why I put up links to archived pages.

In response to the "investigation", Gaiman made one of his, now very occasional, returns to Twitter to fluff up some interest for his rehabilitation but that didn't go down well: https://x.com/neilhimself/status/2018392336338710914/quotes

I noticed he took the opportunity while doing so to plug an upcoming book which is, tasteful?

That substack is bonkers.

We can prove there's a conspiracy because Jon Del Arroz did a YouTube video on the story the same day the story broke.

I follow JDA. I don't agree with everything he says by any means, his politics are not mine, but he's a smart and well connected guy who has interesting and informed things to say about pop culture. He's especially connected in the comics and SFF field, and he hates Neil Gaiman, he's long said Gaiman was a creep.

And he's hyperactive. He doesn't see a news story, ruminate on it for a week, and put out a 10,000 word article. He sees a huge scandal about one of the most prominent writers in his field, he does a quick punchy video about it, then follows it up with more quick punchy videos as more details emerge. That's how JDA rolls.

I don't know Julie Bindel, maybe she has a deep love of comics and SFF that I'm not aware of, but I would be surprised if she'd even heard of Jon Del Arroz, let alone be close enough to conspire with him.

As for the idea that there was a calculated hit on Gaiman to take him out of public discourse in the runup to the Supreme Court ruling in FWS... that's approaching Jolyon Maugham levels of absurd.

If Gaiman needs someone to write "investigations" exonerating him, couldn't his Scientology friends find someone better?

I think whoever wrote that conspiracy needs to mix more baccy in with it. Not the outpourings of a well-adjusted mind.

The substacker is bonkers and also doesn't allow comments on his posts (neither does Gaiman, oddly enough) which makes me suspect he's either on the payroll or is Gaiman himself. Substack posts aren't worth much without comments, that's kind of the point of them. Other voices. Odd he only likes the sound of his own.

Sorry pal, whatever you might say, there are posts by you on Tumblr asking for people to send you photos of them reading your books in the bath. Fucking creep. Whose going to fall for that? Young, lonely fans. And that's before the very credible accounts of you getting in a bath with that poor girl. No one believes you. You're done. Deal with it.