Doctor Who- this might be the last straw even for me.

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For fucks sake

Juno Dawson as a writer.

Whatever anyone's views on who plays the Doctor, it's clear the writers suffer from Wheedonism... slap themselves on the back for writing "strong" female "companions" yet somehow they are all super young and big eyed when the Doctor can be any old bloke.

The most interesting women are the cameos because they can't cast them by their look.

That’s good to know, @Chersfrozenface . Thank you for explaining that.

I enjoyed the most recent Christmas special, which was written by Stephen Moffat and didn’t have a trans story wedged in, thank goodness.

He did imply though, that the doctor was suffering from chair poverty, which anyone who watches JK Rowling’s interactions with Dr Dame Katy Denise on X is something that trans people suffer from. I was interested to know where Stephen was going with that and, I must confess, hoped it was not random, but that Moffat was quietly resisting the woke agenda.

I watched the very first episode. But I suppose Pertwee would be 'my' doctor. We had some old episode on video and the dc were thrilled when the reboot happened- especially as it was so brilliant with clever storylines. Now they're adults , watching the Christmas special became a family ritual.
It had started to go down before the Whitaker period according to the dc - who were addicts. She is a fine actor but was given nothing to work with. The clunky moralising has finally capsised it.

Just realised : I have no idea who wrote what in the 60s 70s. Their only remit was it had to be spooky/ scarey and the goodies win in the end.

Just realised : I have no idea who wrote what in the 60s 70s. Their only remit was it had to be spooky/ scarey and the goodies win in the end.

There's a list of Doctor Who writers on Wikipedia. It includes Terry Nation, of course. But the emphasis at the time was very much on the actors rather than the writers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_writers

Waterboarding the reader @Codlingmoths 😂 😂 brilliant

So what's the betting that Dawson writes an episode where they visit a planet populated solely by women but all the women are played by transwomen?

Get yourself down to William Hill this instant while you can still get good odds.

Forgot to add that these women will all be the most beautiful women ever and everyone will fall in love whether they are straight or gay. Planet Aphrodite

Michelle Gomez was amazing as Missy, we loved her. In fact we loved John Simm and Sacha Dhawan as well. Their episodes were always fun to watch. More crazy Master less preaching!

Yes, they seem to be able to write The Master/Missy so much better than The Doctor. It's hard to keep coming up with new stories for a character and it really shows in the dirge that they've broadcast over the last few years.

Missy was bloody brilliant! Script, casting and acting all brilliant. The JW Doctor was a dud, because the script and character were poor. Nothing wrong with JW’s acting, she did as the script asked of her.

So three men and a token woman (I assume Sharma is female)? Typical BBC. Have not watched Dr Who for ages but watched the Christmas special for want of anything else to do - quite liked it, but slightly predictable ending (or maybe not!)?

Tom Baker was the best!

What is a book with pornographic content doing in a school library, on a school syllabus and marketed at 12-year-olds?

Why has 'Good Omens' been cancelled? If because of Gaiman's nasty sex behaviour, that is not a good reason. Otherwise no-one would ever read Ezra Pound (fascist - the real sort - btw, also great poet).

It hasn't exactly been cancelled, but season 3 will just be a single 90-minute episode instead of the planned six 30-minute episodes.

Production was paused in September 2024 and Gaiman ceased involvement in October 2024 because of the allegations.

The major difference between Pound and Gaiman, of course, is that Pound is dead.

Production companies are nervous about being seen to support living sleaze bags and abusers, about their image and about their audience's reaction to any such support, together with related financial hits.

It hasn't, S3 is being made into one 90 minutes long episode instead of 6 hour long episodes.

But yes, because Neil Gaiman has been accused of sexual assault and rape by (I think 8?) women, and has admitted to some truly heinous things within those accusations.

I watched the first episode in 1963 and have been a fan(atic) ever since, until Jodie.
Unfortunately, because they made her into an uncertain idiot and as for the Timeless Child rubbish… well, that was when I stopped loving it and eventually stopped watching. They fucked the whole canon.
The whole crowd of woke companions were bloody awful too, trying to turn it into a sort sci fi Grange Hill.

It wasn't because Jodie was female. I would have welcomed more of the first female Doctor, Jo Martin, who appeared briefly. I thought she was marvellous, with the right gravitas and presence. And she was also the first black doctor.

I loved Capaldi as the Doctor, even though I didn't enjoy it as the Clara show and the writing wasn't the best.
But as far as I am concerned, anything after him is a fever dream and I look forward to the eventual reset and jettisoning of the Timeless Child.

I am disappointed in Ncuti.
I loved him as Eric and I thought he could be an excellent Doctor, incorporating little Eric type nuances into the character. So I think it is partly his own drum banging and partly the writing that has turned the Doctor into… whoever he is now.

Words fail me about RTD.
When he revived the series, I was ecstatic, even though he went a bit overboard on some things, notably the Messianic bit and the love story angle with Billie Piper and David Tennant. Chris Ecclestone was great and well written.
I thought David Tennant was an excellent Doctor, even though I don't particularly like him outside of the series.

Now, the patronising and preachy tone is such a turn off, which I attribute to RTD, aided by the rest of the cast.
It is normal to see a certain proportion of trans, gay or whatever infinite variety of human on our screens, but why can't they just be ordinary.
Not spouting propaganda all the time. they remind me of myself when I just discovered feminism in the seventies, and I was awful.

I aways though DR who was less a kid program and more family viewing. I struggled with Capaldi era - there are some good episodes in there but the real rot with writing started there.

Everything since I think it's been bad writing and frankly bad acting.

With Whittaker I thought at first it was really bad writing - inability to write a believable strong female character too much wide eye I'm so ditzy - but then Fugitive Doctor and the Master equally poorly written and directed showed her up massively.

It just gets worse and worse and worse - teens and me only watch now as DH insists and one of the few things we all watch. IL have given up and they watched since DH was a kid. DH now longer rewatches by himself - his tolerance for poor TV watching really high - he watched rings of power all way though. My teens rewatch Dr who on iPlayer and stop at Capaldi if not before.

I did wonder what was happening with Good Omens - partly because of Gaiman but also because frankly series 2 just wasn't as good as and relied heavily on Sheen and Tennant and much less on plot.

“I did wonder what was happening with Good Omens - partly because of Gaiman but also because frankly series 2 just wasn't as good as and relied heavily on Sheen and Tennant and much less on plot.“

Agreed. I suspect the lack of Sir Terry may have been a factor.

Was that Midnight? Great episode if so.

I liked Tenant episodes but didn't like it when he was brought back recently - partly or mostly writing but also maybe less energy it felt to me like less good fit to role anyway.

I didn't like Donna either mind which did feel more writing - I previously liked Donna especially in episodes like The Unicorn and the Wasp and Silence in the Library and Partners in crime.

Which is appalling.

My favourite was Tenant. Loved his capacity for darkness as well as comedy.

Matt Smith was good but the storylines were so twisty and ridiculous I gave up caring. Stopped watching.

Briefly out of curiosity returned to see the female doctor - which I agree with the previous poster, made no sense and was off-cannon - but it could still have grabbed me, but it was done with barely any sincerity plus the side kicks were annoying. So never returned again. At all. And I was a person who would watch videos on theories about characters etc.

So removed from it now, I wasn't even aware they had cast a black actor as the doctor.

I think publishers should be held more accountable. Personally I consider it grooming by proxy and as a society we ought to not be allowing such material to be available to children.

From the small review of the nature of content, I wouldn't have been able to get my hands on pornographic content like that when it was in a magazine on the top shelf of a newsagents (before internet) years ago.

Am shocked at our complacency as a society that means such content is fine, as long as marketed as being for 'Young Adults' I don't think I even like the name of that category. What's wrong with simply 'Teens' as a category? As in children. Not 'Adults that are young'😏 but anything from 12 upwards' Very disingenuous marketing.