Justin Trudeau Resigns

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Well, this is a surprise (to me) - I don't keep on top of Canadian media these days, as I find it a monoculture, so all I knew was that Trudeau was very unpopular but had no idea that there was a possibility he'd be resigning ahead of the election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyjmy7vl64t

Yeah I really do . You really didn’t get the point of my post did you?

You think the government has no part in encouraging or facilitating the aggressive attacks on women's rights from TRAs?

Government legislation has removed sex-based rights for real women and replaced them with gender-based rights for real women and any man that fancies them.

Enshrined in law are policies and processes to hound, discipline and prosecute any woman who protest.

Government didn't wield the hammer but they fucking well created the sense of entitlement that drove the hammer-er.

You obviously didn't bother to read the original thread you were replying to.

I can't imagine the invitation to Zelensky to address the Canadian Parliament which lead to Trudeau , Zelensky and the entire Canadian Parliament giving a standing ovation to a Ukrainian Waffen SS member helped his credibility inside Canada or internationally. The Poles, Russians, Israelis, Jewish Chronicle, Jewish News etc were justifiably incandescent.

Rude

Yes, it is. At least have the courtesy to read the post before replying to it.

Agree, Mark Carney is a rich guy in a bubble. There are lots of reasons he shouldn't get in, his Net Zero Banking group has all the top banks bailing from it so hopefully the financial sector is sending a message to him. He is/was friends with Ghislaine Maxwell, he supports pipelines in other countries but not Canada and has dubious links via Brookline to the Chinese. Liberals have refused to say who was compromised by the Chinese (11 MPs I believe) and Liberals are supposed to vote for their new leader without knowing if they are compromised?

In proroguing he's actually given Canadians the worst possible of worlds: he is now unable to be held accountable by Parliament (they were supposed to do a no-confidence vote yesterday) his caucus or his party, he is "intending" to resign, but hasn't! Then if you get into the weeds about the dates and rules about when the names have to be submitted you can see that it's a great position for Trudeau to drag everything out for as long as possible. I think he's here until October which seems like forever. The latest Angus Reid poll says Liberals are at 16%. I cannot tell you how fed up of this shit show Canada is.

Well at least you admit it. 😂

So my guess is that the GG was promised an election quite soon in order to agree to prorogue, but they want to put it off a bit.

The Liberals would likely want some time to elect a new leader, which is legitimate in itself, it doesn't give Canadians who might still want to vote Liberal (all 5 of them) a real choice if they don't have a solid leader in place. And even if that's only a few people it's going to make for a better transition of power to allow them a real choice in their vote.

But I suspect the more important issue is the timing with regards to Trump's inauguration, and what may be some rather tricky political maneuvering about trade tariffs. If the government was dissolved they could end up in a bad place.

I would be placing my bets for a Spring or at the latest, early summer election.

Are you in Canada? You’ll have more insight but I heard a brief piece on a vote of no confidence triggering a GE

it had been avoided until now due to one party but they’ve switched

happy to be corrected

Good point about the leadership bid. What this perhaps unintentionally means though is that Trump ends up negotiating with the Premiers of the Provinces. Canada's constitution is very "Federal", the provinces have lots of responsibilities, the Federal Govt is supposed to bring it together and have a united front. At this point, he will start dealing with Premier Smith on energy, Ford regarding tariffs and, well, you can see how things can get fragmented very quickly. It's a very weak position to leave Canada in, an election would be better and their actions prove the Liberals are just in it for themselves.

I watched Trudeau’s resignation announcement and he was very much framing his intended actions as putting the country first. But my thinking is….if he’s putting the country first he’d resign now and call an election.

The new administration coming into power in the US is going to mean Canada requires a government that’s united and ready to go - proroguing parliament until March and only then calling an election is not going to achieve this, so it’s actually making things trickier for Canada to negotiate with the US.

And I honestly can’t see how Trudeau feels his actions will benefit the Liberal party in any way come the election. Is it a case of him thinking, ‘après moi, le déluge’?

The federal government will continue to manage trade negotiation until there is an election, provincial governments have no mandate to do so, it's outside of their jurisdiction.

The lack of the leader for the Liberals won't affect that, there will be an interim leader and the cabinet positions are still in place.

So they can continue to manage that until there is a new permanent leader and they call an election, and by that time things should be a bit more settled with the Americans.

Yes, the Liberals have been propped up by the NDP in return for certain policy points, mainly a national dental program.

Recently they withdrew from the deal, however, they haven't actually voted against them as such yet.

What's been more significant over the past few weeks is his own MPs calling more and more for his resignation, as well as his finance minister abandoning him and writing an extremely frank public letter about his shortcomings - on the same day they released the budget.

IMO the threat has come from the Liberal benches, telling him that if he doesn't resign, his own MPs will support a non-confidence motion and bring down the government, triggering an election.