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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Justin Trudeau Resigns

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UtopiaPlanitia · 07/01/2025 02:56

Well, this is a surprise (to me) - I don't keep on top of Canadian media these days, as I find it a monoculture, so all I knew was that Trudeau was very unpopular but had no idea that there was a possibility he'd be resigning ahead of the election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyjmy7vl64t

Canada: Trudeau resigns citing 'internal battles' in governing party

Justin Trudeau says he will stay on as prime minister until his governing Liberal Party chooses a new leader.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyjmy7vl64t

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NotBadConsidering · 07/01/2025 11:00

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 09:46

What rights do Canadian women not have under the most liberal prime minister in history

Being able to post a billboard in support of the world’s most famous author without losing your job.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 11:01

Or being taken to a Kafkaesque fitness to practice tribunal.

CrossPurposes · 07/01/2025 11:01

Grammarnut · 07/01/2025 10:20

Yes. So was Cambell-Bannerman, who was PM in the 1920s. You do not have to be a British citizen to lead the Bank of England (or be PM, but must be a Commonwealth Citizen or Irish, I think).

Bonar Law was the one born in New Brunswick. Campbell-Bannerman was Scottish.

NotBadConsidering · 07/01/2025 11:02

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 09:46

What rights do Canadian women not have under the most liberal prime minister in history

Being able to hold an event in a library focussing on women’s sex based rights.

Having a rape crisis centre that centres actual women without having a dead rat nailed to the door.

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 11:02

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 10:42

Also, I think going down the same route as Trudeau isn't likely to be a winning political strategy in the current year.

You'd think they'd look at the recent US Presidential election and wonder. But maybe not.

Poilievre might be taking notes, however.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 11:06

Being able to hold an event in a library focussing on women’s sex based rights.

Having a rape crisis centre that centres actual women without having a dead rat nailed to the door.

Being able to operate a women's intimate waxing service as a lone female, without being forced to accept to wax the balls of ludicrous males clearly trying it on for compo.

BaraSkrae · 07/01/2025 11:19

UtopiaPlanitia · 07/01/2025 02:56

Well, this is a surprise (to me) - I don't keep on top of Canadian media these days, as I find it a monoculture, so all I knew was that Trudeau was very unpopular but had no idea that there was a possibility he'd be resigning ahead of the election.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/clyjmy7vl64t

Peter Zeihan saw this coming and did a very short piece about it (10 mins) in December. He is a US based demography specialist who also comments on politics, energy, etc

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NotBadConsidering · 07/01/2025 11:23

Being in a female only prison after the passing of federal bill C-16, and avoiding males like Adam Laboucan, Patrick Pearsall, Matthew Hawks.

Being in a women’s only refuge shelter and not be sexually assaulted by people like Christopher Hambrook, or being kicked out for complaining about males being there.

Great place for women, Canada. Not lacking any rights at all🙄

Maaate · 07/01/2025 11:31

Ha! I was going to say having the right to refuse to wax the balls of anyone regardless of how they identify.

Grammarnut · 07/01/2025 11:59

CrossPurposes · 07/01/2025 11:01

Bonar Law was the one born in New Brunswick. Campbell-Bannerman was Scottish.

I suspected I was wrong! Should have checked. Thanks! 😓

SquirrelSoShiny · 07/01/2025 12:13

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/01/2025 09:45

One of Shauny Boy's funny little videos about the Scottish Greens ( but which references Justin Trudeau) 😆

That is brilliant 😂

UtopiaPlanitia · 07/01/2025 14:13

BaraSkrae · 07/01/2025 11:19

Peter Zeihan saw this coming and did a very short piece about it (10 mins) in December. He is a US based demography specialist who also comments on politics, energy, etc

That was very interesting, thanks for posting 👍

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UtopiaPlanitia · 07/01/2025 14:21

I want to fully understand why Trudeau has pulled a Boris and has prorogued the Canadian Parliament.

To my mind, normally, when a PM resigns and announces their intention to call for an election, a parliament should be dissolved and an election campaign started. But now all parliamentary business is completely suspended until March and that strikes me as undemocratic manoeuvring in favour of the Liberals to allow them to get their leadership competition out of the way before an election. Seems unfair to the other parties to do that. It also seems a bit pointless too because if the Liberals are going to be ousted by the electorate, with whom they are polling badly, I don’t think a new face at the helm during an election campaign is going to be of much use to them.

Am I missing something about this prorogation?

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Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 14:27

NotBadConsidering · 07/01/2025 11:02

Being able to hold an event in a library focussing on women’s sex based rights.

Having a rape crisis centre that centres actual women without having a dead rat nailed to the door.

Yeah I seriously doubt the government put a dead rat on the floor of a rape crisis centre. Seriously.

NonCrimeHakeIncident · 07/01/2025 14:31

A picture really does paint a thousand words.

Abhannmor · 07/01/2025 14:32

AstonsGerbil · 07/01/2025 10:35

I need to be a bit careful here of what I say, don't want to 'out' myself too much, but if it is Mark Carney to replace him then I don't think he will be much better than Justin tbh. Someone I know distantly (Canadian) is v v friendly with Mark Carney. In a work and personal capacity. This person had a conversation with someone related to me (who is closer to them) and they expressed their disgust at JKR. Now, my relation pushed back on this and said JKR was defending women's rights etc etc (I was not party to this conversation but my relative told me about it a few weeks later). Anyway, this didn't go down well with the Canadian and they changed the subject. My feeling is if they are like that, then Mark Carney will be the same (as they are good friends).

Both extremely rich people with no clear idea of the vulnerable women and children directly impacted by this ideology (they'll never need to use public toilets, changing rooms, will never be in prison and will hopefully not need to use refuge or domestic abuse/rape crisis centres. And even if they did it would be privately funded one on one therapy as they are so rich).

This person my relative knows lives in a v v posh area of Canada. Big stunning house. It's insane. They all live in a rich bubble. Think Hollywood style, but business people, CEOs etc rather than actors. Nothing will change for Canada with these people in charge.

Clinton style neoliberalism dressed up in a fancy rainbow ribbon. I have a friend in Vancouver who sent me photos of the enormous tent city not that far from the glitzy hotels and apartment blocks. Like a war zone or a UN refugee camp in some strife torn hell hole. ' my son is out there somewhere ' she wrote. Heartbreaking.

Shame on Trudeau for this alone. Quite apart from the assault on women's and children's rights and safety.

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 14:32

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 09:48

What rights do Canadian women not have under the most liberal prime minister in history

Sex based ones.

Then comparatively (as Canada ranks among the highest for women’s rights in the world) I wouldn’t live anywhere else.

Yea always room to improve but if you seriously think that Canada doesnt have sex based rights I can’t agree.

misscockerspaniel · 07/01/2025 14:37

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 09:46

What rights do Canadian women not have under the most liberal prime minister in history

To put it another way, why do so-called "progressive" politics override female, sex-based rights?

MarieDeGournay · 07/01/2025 14:48

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 14:27

Yeah I seriously doubt the government put a dead rat on the floor of a rape crisis centre. Seriously.

You asked
'What rights do Canadian women not have under the most liberal prime minister in history ?'
and you got your answers handed to you on a plate.

Nobody is suggesting that posters think that Trudeau and his ministers were personally running round nailing dead rats to refuge doors - seriously?

But women's sex-based rights - as detailed in many previous posts - have been lost in the course of Trudeau's time in office, and 'the most liberal prime minister and government in history' did nothing to protect them, quite the contrary in fact.

There obviously isn't a direct line from that sort of attitude at governmental level to anti-women incidents involving dead rats, but they are informed by the same idea that biological women have no specific rights.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/01/2025 14:50

Yeah I seriously doubt the government put a dead rat on the floor of a rape crisis centre. Seriously.

You don't understand what any of these comments are about, do you?

BaraSkrae · 07/01/2025 15:01

Yea always room to improve but if you seriously think that Canada doesnt have sex based rights I can’t agree.

Canada does not have sex based rights. It has gender based rights. Canada says TWAW and so has men in women's prisons, rape crisis centers, yadda yadda. If Canada had sex based rights women would be allowed a space based on their sex. They are not.

Maaate · 07/01/2025 15:27

I love that out of all the examples given the only rebuttal we got was this 🤣

'I seriously doubt the government put a dead rat on the floor of a rape crisis centre. Seriously.'

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/01/2025 15:33

Don't forget that the 5th largest killer of Canadians is Assisted Suicide, thanks to the progressive's.

UtopiaPlanitia · 07/01/2025 15:33

Maaate · 07/01/2025 15:27

I love that out of all the examples given the only rebuttal we got was this 🤣

'I seriously doubt the government put a dead rat on the floor of a rape crisis centre. Seriously.'

Exactly! And there was a helpfully-posted link in the thread to a newspaper article discussing the incident - so that article either wasn’t read or wasn’t comprehended and a sarcastic disbelieving response was given priority over factual discussion 🤷‍♀️

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