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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump's plans for day one: ending child sexual mutilation and having just male and female genders

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 22/12/2024 20:14

He says "genders" but that has to mean "sex". Day one executive orders, apparently:

x.com/chooocole/status/1870920265330528324?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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WinterCrow · 23/12/2024 11:46

Yep, Harris lost the election far more than Trump won, iyswim.

kiterunning · 23/12/2024 13:05

@teawamutu
This 💯

duc748 · 23/12/2024 13:32

The Democrats have lost women and people of colour in droves.

Just like Labour lost much of the working-class vote. And for much the same reasons.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 13:35

Aime Ichikawa says she has an exec order ready to go. She's talking about prisons, but maybe the exec order covers the lot:

https://x.com/mellowvello/status/1870590677572280760?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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Tooes · 23/12/2024 14:17

GildedRage · 23/12/2024 04:32

@Tooes circumcision has nothing to do with gender affirming care.

It has to do with the "Trump's plans for day one: ending child sexual mutilation" part of the OP's post.

Tooes · 23/12/2024 14:21

CrocsNotDocs · 23/12/2024 05:04

@Tooes would absolutely already know this. It’s a common straw man argument of our FWR monitors who pop in from Reddit to make sure these threads go off tangent.

Yes, I'm sent here to derail a thread discussing sexual mutilation by mentioning sexual mutilation. Any more gatekeeping I should be aware of?

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 14:46

I agree it's a derail. No one who's followed this debate would say "gender affirming care" includes circumcision. But feel free to start a separate thread on it Tooes

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localnotail · 23/12/2024 14:47

People saying Trump is "so right" on the issue need to understand that in the US gender-critical outlook is part of the overall conservative agenda. They don't have anyone otherwise progressive questioning any of the trans ideology; they have no TERFs to speak of, TRA it is still widely accepted and seen as a sign of being liberal and "left" (even thought there is no "left" in America as far as I'm concerned).

Trump's views on trans politics is part of the narrative that includes stopping gay marriages and adoptions, criminalising abortions and generally reducing rights of women - for him and his supporters its all the same thing. So I would not be cheering any of the shit coming out of Trump's gob, its not based on research or progressive ideology but on rampant homophobia and insane religious radicalism.

TempestTost · 23/12/2024 15:43

I know a lot of conservative American women. Some very conservative. They have a lot of different viewpoints on various topics.

What they are not is uneducated around those topics.

TempestTost · 23/12/2024 15:45

Glamourreader · 23/12/2024 11:20

Thaiyogamassage I think it's because they're not tying themselves in knots trying to assume that there is anything worthy about going along with gender identity. They're not very concerned with being seen as 'nice'.

I think this is becoming a larger and larger gap in the population. It's a bit of a funny one to me, being nice is seen as more important than being truthful.

DogInATent · 23/12/2024 15:48

DogInATent · 23/12/2024 11:14

I think he's also added

  • Invade Panama (apparently he thinks the canal charges are too expensive); and
  • Invade Canada (no idea on this one, but he's started to refer to Canada as a State and Trudeau as Governor)
To the list in the last couple of weeks. But he might save them for his second week.

ffs, he's now added Greenland to the list.

WinterCrow · 23/12/2024 16:11

DogInATent · 23/12/2024 15:48

ffs, he's now added Greenland to the list.

To own?

DogInATent · 23/12/2024 16:12

WinterCrow · 23/12/2024 16:11

To own?

Yes.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 16:29

The thread is about ending mutilation of children. And restoring male and female. Feel free to make a separate thread about the other reported topics though

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localnotail · 23/12/2024 17:37

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 16:29

The thread is about ending mutilation of children. And restoring male and female. Feel free to make a separate thread about the other reported topics though

You cant' separate it though. Yes, stopping trans nonsense. Yes, restoring male and female. And at the same time, reducing overall gay rights to nothing. In Trump's eyes, gay and trans are the same thing. You cant get away from that.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 17:52

localnotail · 23/12/2024 17:37

You cant' separate it though. Yes, stopping trans nonsense. Yes, restoring male and female. And at the same time, reducing overall gay rights to nothing. In Trump's eyes, gay and trans are the same thing. You cant get away from that.

Just stop. We are hopefully seeing the end of the forced teaming of LGB and TQ+ by the Dems. This is why the left are going to hell in a hand basket - because they're the ones who've been cheerleading child sexual mutilation and women being raped in prisons by men claiming a woman identity. Ending these things cannot “reduce overall gay rights to to nothing". It does the opposite.

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TempestTost · 23/12/2024 17:58

localnotail · 23/12/2024 17:37

You cant' separate it though. Yes, stopping trans nonsense. Yes, restoring male and female. And at the same time, reducing overall gay rights to nothing. In Trump's eyes, gay and trans are the same thing. You cant get away from that.

What other policies do you think he's looking to change then?

I don't see DT as any great intellectual, not even close, but I am pretty sure he's been around the block and knows the difference between a homosexual person and someone saying they are the opposite sex.

localnotail · 23/12/2024 18:31

TempestTost · 23/12/2024 17:58

What other policies do you think he's looking to change then?

I don't see DT as any great intellectual, not even close, but I am pretty sure he's been around the block and knows the difference between a homosexual person and someone saying they are the opposite sex.

Are you aware that one of the things Trump wants to change is gay marriage and adoption laws?

Im all up for changes to the law and banning of medical transition of kids etc. All I'm saying is that in case of Trump's govermnent it wiil mean that gay righs will be eroded, too.

localnotail · 23/12/2024 18:32

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 17:52

Just stop. We are hopefully seeing the end of the forced teaming of LGB and TQ+ by the Dems. This is why the left are going to hell in a hand basket - because they're the ones who've been cheerleading child sexual mutilation and women being raped in prisons by men claiming a woman identity. Ending these things cannot “reduce overall gay rights to to nothing". It does the opposite.

Im afraid it not just the "left" who is teaming gays with trans.

localnotail · 23/12/2024 18:36

TempestTost · 23/12/2024 17:58

What other policies do you think he's looking to change then?

I don't see DT as any great intellectual, not even close, but I am pretty sure he's been around the block and knows the difference between a homosexual person and someone saying they are the opposite sex.

He's definitely supported/ been seen supportive of activists advocating banning gay people from being able to adopt.

I mean, is it all big news to you people that Trump supports religious fundamentalists and extreme right wingers who are not exactly gay-friendly?

Talkinpeace · 23/12/2024 18:43

Trump will do a few things that GCs are happy about
and many others that every sane woman will be livid about
he will also forget to do stuff he does not care about

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 23/12/2024 18:56

I thought he supported the right not to support gay adoption. But whatever. This isn't about that. It's about stopping the butchery of gay children and the raping of women, or women being stopped from accessing scholarships to get into colleges because of men claiming a woman identity. That kind of thing. If he does that, GOOD.

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Talkinpeace · 23/12/2024 21:22

@ResisterOfTwaddleRex
You seem determined to view one part of Trump's programme in utter isolation to the rest.
But that is not how politics works.

He'll define gender in law in the same breath as he bans ante natal care

IDareSay · 23/12/2024 21:28

He will ban ante natal care? Aye right…

Trump derangement syndrome very active in here!

Murica · 24/12/2024 01:47

Talkinpeace · 23/12/2024 21:22

@ResisterOfTwaddleRex
You seem determined to view one part of Trump's programme in utter isolation to the rest.
But that is not how politics works.

He'll define gender in law in the same breath as he bans ante natal care

How will he do that? I'm having a hard time imagining it but you must have something in mind.

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