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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump's plans for day one: ending child sexual mutilation and having just male and female genders

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ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 22/12/2024 20:14

He says "genders" but that has to mean "sex". Day one executive orders, apparently:

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:21

Mmm. Given the climate of fear and re-education that has been in place for years, I think all you can state with confidence is that people around you are careful to be seen to have the right opinions.

And this.

LadyGreyson · 20/01/2025 22:21

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:22

It's a middle class luxury belief @LadyGreyson

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:22

"Classist" or not.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:24

So vast swathes of women on Mumsnet aren't "regular people" but a load of middle class "post graduate professionals are? Mmmm hhmmm.

littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:27

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Am a working class woman. But ffs why do I even have to say that.

I hate the way you woman just dismiss us normal women . I don’t care if you are a post thingie whatever

am glad trump has said there are only 2 genders. He should have said sex

actually am just a woman and I hate being defined what you middle class women think that we are defined by

Snowypeaks · 20/01/2025 22:28

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It's true. Which is the point.

Perhaps I can save you some time and effort - there is no point trying to shame me into lying.

That male people can become female people because of a feeling they have is a luxury belief held by women who are unlikely to suffer the negative impacts.

littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:29

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:30

Perhaps I can save you some time and effort - there is no point trying to shame me into lying.

That male people can become female people because of a feeling they have is a luxury belief held by women who are unlikely to suffer the negative impacts.

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littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:31

Yep eresh

littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:33

See all they tech bros who banned us for speaking truth and I include you Mumsnet , look at them now cuddling up with trump

😎😎😎😎

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:34

It's quite something isn't it. Zuckerberg particularly, who foresaw that!

Snowypeaks · 20/01/2025 22:37

littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:33

See all they tech bros who banned us for speaking truth and I include you Mumsnet , look at them now cuddling up with trump

😎😎😎😎

I wonder if anyone is scolding them?

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littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:38

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2025 22:34

It's quite something isn't it. Zuckerberg particularly, who foresaw that!

I know

all about the money though

eresh I don’t speak much on here anymore cos people are so erm so much more educated than me. But I kinda feel now I can. 🥹

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 20/01/2025 22:41

OMFG didn't we already have the "wot about circumcision" attempted derail upthread Hmm

The "mumsnet is boring old wimmin" line is one we get all the fucking time. Fuck off.

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Snowypeaks · 20/01/2025 22:41

The great thing about being on the same side of this issue is that you don't need subtle arguments or specialised knowledge.
You just tell the truth.

LadyGreyson · 20/01/2025 22:50

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littlbrowndog · 20/01/2025 22:38

I know

all about the money though

eresh I don’t speak much on here anymore cos people are so erm so much more educated than me. But I kinda feel now I can. 🥹

I miss your posts littl please come back more often!

LadyGreyson · 20/01/2025 23:05

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Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 20/01/2025 23:11

GiveMeSpanakopita · 23/12/2024 10:46

The surgeons who do trans surgeries are butchers. They overpromise and do shoddy work. The rate of post op complications for MtF is 50%. For phallo, it's 80%. Even if the best surgeons did the best work, there would still be complications and failures because the surgeries are just not possible whilst human bodies are the way they are. Colon tissue cannot become vaginal tissue. A female urethra cannot be stretched to the tip of a neophallus without fistula.

Vulnerable people undergo these surgeries and wind up horrifically disabled. Some die like Griffen Sivret and Apollo Moon - both in their 20s.

My heart breaks when I read trans forums and see the pain and horror these young people have to go through. Meanwhile the Mengele who did the surgery disappears with the money.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and Trump is bang on here. We should not be butchering mentally ill young people. End the butchery now.

This, 100%.

JessaWoo · 20/01/2025 23:18

EasternStandard · 20/01/2025 13:01

This is a big deal, after all the threads on here

It’s such a huge turnaround I’m wondering if the lack of reaction is down to time taken to filter in

It’s the end of state legislated gender ideology in the US

It isn't the end of "state-legislated" anything. Executive Orders only have Federal effect and provide instructions only to Federal Officers. They cannot change existing legislation or enact laws.

RedToothBrush · 20/01/2025 23:21

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You mean women who are yet to reproduce and so still haven't quite grasped how significant that is an how biology really does matter? They are often still trying to find a mate, and are going through the process of working out the degree to which sex matters. They still are playing at being cool girl and getting the attention and approval of the menz rather than realising that once they have a mate thats the signal for them to become invisible doormats who are in the service of males.

Hmm. Odd isn't it.

Haroldwilson · 20/01/2025 23:24

Fucking hell. I wouldn't crack out the champers yet. This is the man who engineered the supreme court to defeat roe Vs wade. What else could he do based on his opinion?

You might agree with him on trans treatment, I'm pretty sure there are other things you wouldn't. Making trans rights a political football doesn't help anyone, it should be down to evidence based policy not what goes down well on prime time.