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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 20/12/2024 17:59

Gosh. 😱😡

Msmoonpie · 20/12/2024 17:59

So much for pro life. But then we always knew it was about controlling and punishing women - rather than saving “babies”.

FactoryLeftovers · 20/12/2024 18:02

Fucking hell

ErrolTheDragon · 20/12/2024 18:02

Bloody hell.

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2024 18:02

It's absolutely shocking, but not surprising with the hardline evangelical mob they have in the US. I can only hope that there are enough sane senators to vote it down.

GooseberryBeret · 20/12/2024 18:03

Oh fuck. Women even having suspicious miscarriages would be under threat of execution. Struggling to find words for the bastards who hate women this much.

DarkForces · 20/12/2024 18:04

So how do they intend to deal with the people who carry out the death penalty? The overlap between anti abortion and pro death penalty blows my mind. Want to force women to stay pregnant and save a cluster of cells but willing to put a fully grown adult to death via state sponsored murder

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 20/12/2024 18:07

Jesus fucking christ.

CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets · 20/12/2024 18:09

Here we go this is not a drill

https://images.app.goo.gl/m55LMohRTswrzN297

PerkingFaintly · 20/12/2024 18:10

For those who don't click, this is in South Carolina, the man who introduced the bill is a Republican called Rob Harris, and it's called the South Carolina Prenatal Equal Protection Act.

Also from that article, as of September this year there are 17 US states which have given fetuses legal personhood, and in Georgia a fetus qualifies for tax credits and child support and is to be included in population counts.

SerendipityJane · 20/12/2024 18:10

So how do they intend to deal with the people who carry out the death penalty?

Why does anyone have to deal with anything ? Capital punishment is illogical anyway. So no point trying to rationalise it.

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Bloodybrambles · 20/12/2024 18:11

‘Give the foetus the same right as born individuals’

Does that mean the pregnant person gets to start maternity leave at 6 weeks as surely child labour laws would prevent the ‘child’ from being in the work place?

Says that the foetus counts as an individual, can the family add it to their life insurance policy?

What about banning guns? Right to arm yourself? Wasn’t there a school shooting last week?

SerendipityJane · 20/12/2024 18:12

PerkingFaintly · 20/12/2024 18:10

For those who don't click, this is in South Carolina, the man who introduced the bill is a Republican called Rob Harris, and it's called the South Carolina Prenatal Equal Protection Act.

Also from that article, as of September this year there are 17 US states which have given fetuses legal personhood, and in Georgia a fetus qualifies for tax credits and child support and is to be included in population counts.

There is an obscene symmetry that a fetus in 2024 has more rights than a slave in 1824.

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Neilsfavouritechilli · 20/12/2024 18:17

Honestly I've had a bloody shit day but this has tipped me over. Why does the world hate women so much?

PoundlandColumbo · 20/12/2024 18:17

The bill provides exceptions for unintentional deaths resulting from life-saving procedures for the mother or spontaneous miscarriage.

How very generous of them. No death penalty if you have a miscarriage 🙄

spoonfulofsugar1 · 20/12/2024 18:20

'Already in Georgia, a fetus qualifies for tax credits and child support, and is to be included in population counts and redistricting' ... if it wasn't so awful, I'd find the stupidity of this mindset funny

Echobelly · 20/12/2024 18:22

One of the many things that makes me furious about this is also the way miscarriage will get drawn in and you just know the men behind this understand nothing about it. I bet you anything if you asked them about miscarriage and how often it occurs they'd be all 'Oh well it's very rare isn't it, and it only happens if the mother does something wrong like drink or drugs'. They'll have no clue that about 25-30% end in miscarriage in the first twelve weeks and that it's nothing to do with what the mum does or doesn't do.

saltysandysea · 20/12/2024 18:26

America is coming closer & closer to the Handmaids tale type scenario. Elon musk is likely to be behind much of this as he is determined to get the western birth rate rising. The same country that provides one of the worsts levels of maternity leave in the western world.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/27/maternity-leave-us-policy-worst-worlds-richest-countries

Maternity leave: US policy is worst on list of the world's richest countries | Maternity & paternity rights | The Guardian

US was the only country in an analysis that offered absolutely no national paid leave

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/27/maternity-leave-us-policy-worst-worlds-richest-countries

IwantToRetire · 20/12/2024 18:32

Harris originally introduced the same bill in 2023, and the idea that lawmakers would consider using capital punishment on people who get abortions sparked national outrage. Several Republicans who co-sponsored that bill quietly removed their names after public outcry. The 2023 version died shortly after it was introduced in the state House.

Harris did not respond to HuffPost’s request for comment this week, but defended the bill in 2023 to HuffPost reporter Lydia O’Connor.

“My bill does not single out women,” Harris said at the time. “It prohibits everyone from committing murder. It provides the same due process that everyone enjoys under our current laws.”

It’s very unlikely that the bill will go anywhere this time around. The current version has six co-sponsors, including Harris, all of whom are white men and members of the South Carolina Freedom Caucus, part of the more extreme sector of the Republican Party.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/south-carolina-republicans-set-to-reintroduce-bill-allowing-death-penalty-for-abortions_n_675b3f40e4b08876deeb7287

I hope this article is right and that it is unlikely to pass.

But the fact it has even been introduced is so scary.

I have always felt that peeple who live their lives by religious beliefs should not be allowed to become politicians.

Because it nearly always means they are trying to impose their beliefs on others.

South Carolina Republicans Set To Reintroduce Bill Allowing Death Penalty For Abortions

It’s unlikely that the bill will become law, but abortion rights advocates in the state warn it sends a message about what’s to come.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/south-carolina-republicans-set-to-reintroduce-bill-allowing-death-penalty-for-abortions_n_675b3f40e4b08876deeb7287

LonginesPrime · 20/12/2024 18:32

Jesus, that's horrific.

But from a logical perspective, since the whole argument for banning abortion is that the foetus is a legal person with human rights from conception, I can see how it logically follows that if the death penalty is available for the crime of murder, and abortion is considered murder in the context of anti-abortion legislation, then the death penalty could be available for anyone guilty of the crime of abortion (although so should the mitigation of self-defence, presumably).

I think in a way, this proposal (assuming it doesn't become law) might be helpful to pro-choice campaigners, as it highlights the utter absurdity of giving human rights to an embryo and the logical conclusion of the view that abortion is actual murder.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/12/2024 18:59

PoundlandColumbo · 20/12/2024 18:17

The bill provides exceptions for unintentional deaths resulting from life-saving procedures for the mother or spontaneous miscarriage.

How very generous of them. No death penalty if you have a miscarriage 🙄

Good luck proving it's spontaneous. There have already been women jailed for illegal abortions after miscarriages.

NotAScoobyDoo2 · 20/12/2024 19:07

That's really scary. I've always said, these evangelical Christians start being strong on banning guns and against the death penalty is the day I'll start listening to their views on abortion. The next question is who'll look after all the babies that are abandoned because their mothers can't look after them.

PoundlandColumbo · 20/12/2024 19:26

NoBinturongsHereMate · 20/12/2024 18:59

Good luck proving it's spontaneous. There have already been women jailed for illegal abortions after miscarriages.

Another step closer to Gilead.

RedToothBrush · 20/12/2024 19:52

Bloodybrambles · 20/12/2024 18:11

‘Give the foetus the same right as born individuals’

Does that mean the pregnant person gets to start maternity leave at 6 weeks as surely child labour laws would prevent the ‘child’ from being in the work place?

Says that the foetus counts as an individual, can the family add it to their life insurance policy?

What about banning guns? Right to arm yourself? Wasn’t there a school shooting last week?

Pregnant woman.

All people who are pregnant are women.

Men are not at risk of the death penalty from this.

menopausalmare · 20/12/2024 20:07

Before they start executing women, how about a national vasectomy programme 🤔

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