Free advice line for female victims welcomes transwomen

[Liverpool52]

This popped up on my linked in feed - a free advice line which offers legal advice to women suffering sexual harassment in the workplace welcomes applications from transwomen.

That's right women being sexually harassed by men, come and discuss the details of it with men.

My MENOPAUSE insomnia is the reason I'm here. Pretty sure you can't fake that with feelings.

People are asking you endlessly and patiently to properly cite your sources. That means a hyperlink direct to the study you are using to evidence your argument. This is so it can be properly reviewed and discussed it is hardly difficult. It is what people who value facts and logic over feelings prioritise for the sake of the truth.

I've spent a few minutes looking up stats, using similar terms to those described. Not long, admittedly.

In those few minutes, I did come up with some US stats from a source that looks reliable that match yours. I've not been able to find any for the UK for that exact claim, though.

What did come up a few results further down in response to the search terms was the following, which may help you to understand why some females* *may want female-only helplines in some situations.

Comparisons of official MOJ statistics from March / April 2019 (most recent official count of transgender prisoners):

125 sex offenders out of 3812 women in prison = 3.3%
13234 sex offenders out of 78781 men in prison = 16.8%
76 sex offenders out of 129 transwomen = 58.9%

*Note: I'd like to use the word "women" in my own comments above, but defer to your sensitivities by accepting the rather dehumanising use of "females" instead. The UK government stats above do use "women" to describe "females".

I guess that the people compiling the stats felt that we do still need a word for adult human females, if information like the below is to be collected, recorded and understood.

Come on people, stop taking the bait of our TRA chums.
Y’all know better than that.

In those few minutes, I did come up with some US stats from a source that looks reliable that match yours.

Can you link to the exact stats please so we can all examine them? Self selected surveys aren't particularly"reliable", as TRAs were more than happy to complain about, both when a research paper was published about Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, and also when a lesbian activist ran an online survey about lesbians being pressured into sex with MTFs.

I can't say I have a problem with this but I appreciate why others do.

Trans women in women's prisons/sports/changing rooms/hostels etc yes I'm on board with their exclusion due to the obvious disadvantage/threat to women's privacy.

Trans women using a phone line? Not something I can get worked up about!

Trans women using a phone line? Not something I can get worked up about!

It isn't about them using it, it's about them being the voice that vulnerable women hear when they call.

I wouldn't want to talk to male people about being sexually harassed at work, so I wouldn't call if I thought I would get one, or I'd just put the phone down.

This is about them volunteering to be on the phones giving advice. That's how I read it, anyway.

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Exactly. James may like to call himself Jenny, but nothing will mask the deeper voice of a man

For everyone else, the post above was in the spirit of Confused's (very confused) post-modern theories on language. I know they'll appreciate it, but for we lesser uncivilised mortals (where I'm "from", we believe in a common language as a necessary foundation for democracy and the rule of law), what I said (in Cattiett-ish - its first use on a public forum, I'll have you know!), was:

Are you amenable to the possibility that we may need a common language to describe and fight oppression?

And, just to check, I assume then that, given your comically impractical and inconsistent respect for an individual's right to their own language, you've spoken to the women of Afghanistan to ascertain their views on the gender debate and what words we should use for them?

Do you think they'd agree with you calling them women meaning their psychology and way of life, or whatever your earlier words were? Or do you think some of them may find this grossly, traumatically offensive?

Yes sorry you're right I misread it. That does muddy the waters somewhat for me.

where im from everyone has the right to call themselves and others whatever they damn well please.

OK are you entirely OK with Rachel Dolezal as well? And pretendians? Everyone can call themselves anything regardless of the actual people?

girl they do voice training.

Don't call grown women 'girl'.

And no, not every single TW does voice training. Why on earth would you think that? IME almost none do.

girl they do voice training. just because someone was born male doesnt mean they have a low pitched voice

Most of them sound obviously male, whether imitation woman voice or deep baritone.

Not a women’s service then.

Oh, I also meant to add a confused query about where the heck I (or anyone, actually) had "denied gender-based discrimination". I can't see it in my post, and don't think it appeared before, either, though I've not reread everything.

Maybe another indication of what we lose without a common language - the potential for a shared understanding that assumes good intent?

(I've spared you the Cattiett-ish).

If you think that's bad, lots of Russians were employed at UK job centres to speak to Ukrainian refugees (despite plenty of Ukrainian centres and clubs with native and second generation Ukrainians locally).

Very distressing for them, and of course the Russians deliberately spread misinformation and caused havoc.

she has the right to call herself black the same way i and everyone else has the right to call her ridiculous. pretendians who are making fraudulent legal claims are obviously not granted the same grace because fraud is illegal.

Fraudulent claims for things like awards, medals, educational opportunities, jobs that should have been allocated to people from the oppressed group, that kind of thing?

Where do you stand on TW in the olympics then?