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Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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Hoardasurass · 19/11/2024 07:26

The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use

A trans war has broken out on Capitol Hill after a Republican lawmaker proposed a measure to block transgender women from using biological women's restrooms in the U.S. Capitol. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

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NotBadConsidering · 20/11/2024 06:55

There is no need for any genital exam for children for sport. Why do you insist on catastrophising everything?

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:55

Hoardasurass · 20/11/2024 06:45

Wrong no reasonable dr would do any type of breast surgery on a child due to their breasts not being fully formed and the poor long-term results of such surgeries in girls under 18.
If your going to continue with this erroneous assertion please provide evidence of your claims

Untrue.

In 2011 alone over 4000 breast surgeries were done in the US on girls under the age of 18.

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 06:55

Runor · 20/11/2024 06:52

OMG that’s not how control of medical intervention works! Puberty blockers will not be banned for precocious puberty if they get banned for body dysphoria. Are you really happy to post from a position of such ignorance?

It’s a very common TRA trope at the moment.

Making up a term - “gender affirming care” - then putting unrelated procedures into the same category and then saying “EVERYTHING will be banned”.

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:56

NotBadConsidering · 20/11/2024 06:55

There is no need for any genital exam for children for sport. Why do you insist on catastrophising everything?

Why did the anti-trans government put it in the law then?

Why is it even on the table?

It is absolutely vile and degrading to young girls, and yet not a peep from any of you.

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:57

334bu · 20/11/2024 06:48

I don't see the need to exclude any woman, trans, intersex, or otherwise, from bathrooms

Well, as you support allowing men into female only spaces, I think we can safely say that you really don't care about women's rights .

You can say whatever you like, it's your own bias speaking and does not make it true.

NotBadConsidering · 20/11/2024 06:58

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:56

Why did the anti-trans government put it in the law then?

Why is it even on the table?

It is absolutely vile and degrading to young girls, and yet not a peep from any of you.

What “anti-trans government” put it into law? What did they put into law?

What are you talking about?🤣

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:58

Runor · 20/11/2024 06:52

OMG that’s not how control of medical intervention works! Puberty blockers will not be banned for precocious puberty if they get banned for body dysphoria. Are you really happy to post from a position of such ignorance?

I know how the US gov works.

Hoardasurass · 20/11/2024 06:58

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 05:03

How does keeping women’s spaces single sex hurt women? What a weird take.

Because twaw so preventing them from using women's spaces hurts them er go it hurts women.
(As explained to me by a tra)

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nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 06:59

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:56

Why did the anti-trans government put it in the law then?

Why is it even on the table?

It is absolutely vile and degrading to young girls, and yet not a peep from any of you.

If you read the law, there were a range of non-invasive ways of girls proving their sex (if necessary). Why do you latch on “physical exam”, call it “genital inspection” and insist it’s mandatory, when it’s not?

What’s degrading about providing a birth certificate?

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:00

NotBadConsidering · 20/11/2024 06:58

What “anti-trans government” put it into law? What did they put into law?

What are you talking about?🤣

Please try to focus.

Florida's republican government put into law that, in order to protect girls from boys in sports, that they could be ordered to submit to a genital exam to confirm they are girls.

If a cheek swab is enough, why would this be written into law? It's vile.

334bu · 20/11/2024 07:01

Any person who advocates for the medical transition of minor children , who is happy for male rapists to be put in cells with female prisoners and who will force women to share dressing rooms, sleeping accomodation and toilets with men, all to affirm some mens's desire to be treated as the opposite sex is not worthy of respect.

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:01

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 06:59

If you read the law, there were a range of non-invasive ways of girls proving their sex (if necessary). Why do you latch on “physical exam”, call it “genital inspection” and insist it’s mandatory, when it’s not?

What’s degrading about providing a birth certificate?

Why would they even include a genital exam, then?

A mystery. Possibly because they are monsters and not interested in protecting girls at all.

Snowypeaks · 20/11/2024 07:01

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:48

I am against the need for a law about the issue.

Since the social contract has been broken by males who claim to be women and their allies, and some states have ensured that women cannot have single sex toilets (or any ss facilities or spaces), legislation is in practice the only remaining option to ensure that women's rights to privacy, dignity and safety are upheld.
You have confirmed that you don't think these human rights are important when it comes to women.

You also imply that women are not a discrete category separate from, and with different needs to male people. Recognition of women as a sex class is fundamental to our human rights. So perhaps it's fair to say that you don't care about women's rights.

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 07:02

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:01

Why would they even include a genital exam, then?

A mystery. Possibly because they are monsters and not interested in protecting girls at all.

You haven’t read the law, have you?

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:02

334bu · 20/11/2024 07:01

Any person who advocates for the medical transition of minor children , who is happy for male rapists to be put in cells with female prisoners and who will force women to share dressing rooms, sleeping accomodation and toilets with men, all to affirm some mens's desire to be treated as the opposite sex is not worthy of respect.

If I cared about garnering your respect, I would not be here.

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:03

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 07:02

You haven’t read the law, have you?

The fact you can't criticize the law providing for intimate exams on children is telling.

Anything in service of hurting the transes!

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 07:04

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:01

Why would they even include a genital exam, then?

A mystery. Possibly because they are monsters and not interested in protecting girls at all.

Why don’t you post the law and the part about mandatory genital inspections?

Hoardasurass · 20/11/2024 07:05

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:21

  1. For all women.
  1. For all women, yes.

Do you count transwomen as women in that "all women " answer or not

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334bu · 20/11/2024 07:05

If I cared about garnering your respect, I would not be here
As you don't care about women's rights I am surprised that you are here.

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:05

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 07:04

Why don’t you post the law and the part about mandatory genital inspections?

Why don't you post the law? Does the law allow for a genital inspection or not?

And if not, does it clearly outline that girls will not be subject to this disgusting violation of their dignity and privacy?

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:06

334bu · 20/11/2024 07:05

If I cared about garnering your respect, I would not be here
As you don't care about women's rights I am surprised that you are here.

I consider trans rights to overlap with women's rights and fighting for one does not negate the other.

Mystery solved.

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:07

Hoardasurass · 20/11/2024 07:05

Do you count transwomen as women in that "all women " answer or not

All women means all women.

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 07:07

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:05

Why don't you post the law? Does the law allow for a genital inspection or not?

And if not, does it clearly outline that girls will not be subject to this disgusting violation of their dignity and privacy?

I’m not the one staring there’s need for mandatory genital inspections 😀

NotBadConsidering · 20/11/2024 07:08

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 07:00

Please try to focus.

Florida's republican government put into law that, in order to protect girls from boys in sports, that they could be ordered to submit to a genital exam to confirm they are girls.

If a cheek swab is enough, why would this be written into law? It's vile.

As nolongersurprised says, “physical exam” is not genital exam. You seem confused as to how male DSDs are confirmed.

nolongersurprised · 20/11/2024 07:09

PinkChesnut · 20/11/2024 06:41

You might find support for "no men in women's sports!!!" Until that means 15 year old girls are having their genitals inspected before they can play sports.

See Florida.

How is this harm reductive?

You said this. This isn’t happening.

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