Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Trans women having unilateral access to bathrooms and change rooms does not strike any discomfort or fear in my heart.

Mace and her ilk have far more ability to do lasting harm, including causing the death, of hundreds of thousands of women per year.

These issues are not comparable in scope.

All terms are made up terms.

Argument is irrelevant.

She is not targeting a person, the person is just the catalyst.

This is why I am in favour of clear rules and guidelines for single sex spaces and sports before a male person tries to muscle his way in. Because then that person can argue he is being bullied and targeted.

And then the next man can claim being a transwoman and argue if the previous person was let in, he should be let in.

And then the convicted sex offender just out of jail can argue the same thing.

I get this feels personal, but if this person has a toilet in their office, they have facilities to use so this doesn't impact them. So why feel targeted if it doesn't impact you? Unless you were planning in using them to make your point you can and women can't object?

McBride is male and is no more targeted by this bill than any male who makes a point of using women's facilities.

Her party is pro out of control gun use.

And...? Is she therefore invulnerable to bullets?

Have you thought about the other questions I asked?

Please study american civics for the answer to this question. The SCOTUS would have overturned any legislation enshrining abortion rights, and the Democrats did not have a true majority in either senate or the house.

It would not have been possible to pass this legislation and put it into law. The best they have been able to do is support grass roots campaigns to put abortion access on the ballots at state level, which has passed in several states during this election.

She probably carries and also thinks the "good guys with guns" will save her and she doesn't have to worry.

I have no idea. I may have missed whatever other questions you asked.

It would not have been possible to pass this legislation and put it into law

Then they fucked up, didn’t they, by campaigning on it?

My questions were

1. Are you in favour of single sex toilets for women?
2. Would you support a bill guaranteeing single sex toilets for women if a Democrat Congresswoman or Congressman sponsored it?

I did answer these questions already.

I don't see the need to exclude any woman, trans, intersex, or otherwise, from bathrooms.

I also don't see the need to pass laws that prohibit someone using a bathroom not in line with their sex/gender. Already private property rules govern most of these spaces, school bathrooms should be single user anyway.

But if a politician really felt the need to make up a bill that included all women? Sure. Whatever. Seems pointless and not in the interest of reducing harm to me.

No? They campaigned on it hoping to get the votes needed to deal with the SCOTUS.

https://www.thefp.com/p/democrats-kamala-abortion-trans-trump

This has been posted before, but the Democrats misread the public feeling on men who identity as trans entering women’s spaces and sport.

Mace is a politician - who knows what her private feelings are - but she has her finger on the pulse with this issue and is making the most of it

You might find support for "no men in women's sports!!!" Until that means 15 year old girls are having their genitals inspected before they can play sports.

See Florida.

How is this harm reductive?

what’s wrong with a cheek swab? Why are TRA’s so obsessed with children’s genitals?

This was the anti-trans Republicans putting into law that schools could request a physical examination be done on children to determine their sex.

Not the, as you call them, "TRAs".

Wrong no reasonable dr would do any type of breast surgery on a child due to their breasts not being fully formed and the poor long-term results of such surgeries in girls under 18.
If your going to continue with this erroneous assertion please provide evidence of your claims

So you are against single sex toilets for women in principle.

The talk about abortion is just a distraction tactic.

I am against the need for a law about the issue.

I don't see the need to exclude any woman, trans, intersex, or otherwise, from bathrooms

Well, as you support allowing men into female only spaces, I think we can safely say that you really don't care about women's rights .

Yes, and there were other options including a birth certificate and genetic profile. But the TRAs latched onto “physical exam” because they are obsessed with children’s genitals.

So you support the outcome of the bill, but don’t support it because of the person who is tabling it? And you talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face?

Or do you not support single sex spaces?

Also @PinkChesnut you do realise that the US Dr's claim that girls who id as boys are boys and that natural female breast tissue is gynaecomastia as its the only way to get medicade and most insurers to pay for it.
It's very similar to the fraud being committed in Australia by drs claiming that girls have testicular insufficiency (as in they don't have any due to being female) so the federal government will pay for the testosterone that these girls are being given

OMG that’s not how control of medical intervention works! Puberty blockers will not be banned for precocious puberty if they get banned for body dysphoria. Are you really happy to post from a position of such ignorance?

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/decision-to-abolish-gender-testing-at-sydney-olympics-supported-by-yale-physician/

This is an interesting article about why the Olympics stopped gender testing in 2000.

I find it very telling you have no issue with conservative governments mandating genital examination of children, and continue to act as if it is somehow TRAs who are writing these laws.