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Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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Hoardasurass · 19/11/2024 07:26

The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use

A trans war has broken out on Capitol Hill after a Republican lawmaker proposed a measure to block transgender women from using biological women's restrooms in the U.S. Capitol. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

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duc748 · 26/11/2024 13:21

That really is a top piece by BO'N.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 26/11/2024 13:36

The sea of reason is crashing on the shores of their bullshit. Exquisite writing.

I'd very much like AOC to read that.

Watched a bit of a Megyn Kelly podcast the other day where they were discussing how weird and disturbing it was that AOC is talking about asking children to undress but then one of the panelists pointed out it's probably one of the fantasies in sissy porn and AOC clearly takes instructions from men into this sort of thing.

We can tell who the men are all the time. It's not difficult. What is wrong with AOC ,has her brain fallen out? Even dogs and other mammals can tell adult male humans from adult females. The entire skeleton, muscles hip to shoulder ratio, hand size, sound of voice, gait etc is different.

And that's before you get to the fact of behaviour, aggression, crossing of boundaries, acting without consent. Vanishingly few women would willing traumatize other women. Whereas several men who identify as women have just illustrated it's very much their goal in entering women's spaces.

ConstructionTime · 26/11/2024 14:35

When AOC started to rise in the ranks, I thought at first that she was refreshing and interesting, and a voice for societal justice.
The past years I was astonished about the zealous fever with which she throws women under the bus.

duc748 · 26/11/2024 14:40

Even the Guardian don't talk about The Squad any more.

UtopiaPlanitia · 26/11/2024 14:47

I love O’Neill’s turn of phrase and he has produced some well-turned phrases in his examination of this issue. Some of my favourites are:

The doublespeak is crazy. The true ‘culture warriors’, surely, are the men who swagger into the ladies’ changing room, upending centuries of social decorum, all in order to validate their hallucinatory identities. To call these men ‘women’, and the women protesting their presence ‘bigots’, is moral inversion on steroids. It turns truth upside down. The intruding male becomes the hero, the complaining woman the villain. Greater worth is accorded to men’s feelings than to women’s dignity. Their right to poop wherever they want and undress wherever they please trumps the right of women to enjoy freedom of association and a cock-free day. The bald truth is that elevating McBride’s access to the Capitol’s female bathrooms over Mace’s desire for a women-only zone represents a historic victory for men’s rights.

One woke comic says Mace will never have to prove anything when she goes into the women’s bathroom because ‘there’s no doubt you’re in the presence of a cunt’. Geddit – she has a cunt and she is a cunt! Honestly, these people make Bernard Manning sound like Betty Friedan.’

‘The Mace hate confirms something many of us already knew: that trans activism is misogyny in drag. It also shines an unforgiving light on the phoney virtue of the correct-think clique, who spent years wearing pussy hats and posing as feminists and yet who now shrug as a woman is threatened with violent death for defending women’s rights. We’re witnessing the rage of an activist class that feels its cultural power waning. Trans is falling out of fashion. The sea of reason is crashing on the shores of their bullshit. And how are they dealing with it? The same way every dogmatic fruitcake in history dealt with such revolts – by burning a witch.’

ConstructionTime · 26/11/2024 15:19

The article gives a good overview over "the rage".

I have encountered this in real life discussions which were not about women at all; completely different things. Disagreement on topics that belonged to the setting we were in and where discussion is part of the day: visceral anger and annoyance at someone disagreeing with them, trying to paint them as yesteryear.

About Mace, it is a strong contrast with "be kind and tolerant" when it's the other way round; just shows the hypocrisy.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/11/2024 16:24

lcakethereforeIam · 26/11/2024 11:18

Brendan O'Neill in full rant mode. What he says would, of course, get most women sacked, perma banned from Mumsnet and hauled in for an interview under caution with a Stonewall captured police officer.

But he's right.

GailBlancheViola · 26/11/2024 18:03

The wording of that article is just perfect, hits every bullseye.

GailBlancheViola · 26/11/2024 18:04

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/11/2024 16:24

Brendan O'Neill in full rant mode. What he says would, of course, get most women sacked, perma banned from Mumsnet and hauled in for an interview under caution with a Stonewall captured police officer.

But he's right.

Quite.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/11/2024 18:10

So good, he's one of the best writers on this topic, bar none.

Appalonia · 26/11/2024 18:46

That's a brilliant article. He really gets it, unlike the Supreme Court judges in court today in the For Women Scotland case, who seemed to have a woeful understanding of the issues.

UtopiaPlanitia · 27/11/2024 02:53

I came across this picture on TwiX and I thought it was amusing and also kind of inspiring in a way too.
https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1861229695536103493/photo/1

Mace also retweeted Kara Dansky multiple times today:
https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1861145622524350519
A democrat woman also fighting for the rights of women. #HoldTheLine

AND

https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1861214720130228732
“Cheers, we’re going to win,” she says. Right back at you
@KDansky
#HoldTheLine

It’s good to see Democrat and Republican women working across the aisle on these types of issues where they agree.

DeanElderberry · 27/11/2024 07:34

It feels like feminism.

No wonder so many misogynist men are furious and terrified.

ArabellaScott · 27/11/2024 07:47

Women must work together across.party lines. That will also help keep democracy and society healthy, in fact.

thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5004781-democratic-leftist-feminist-criticizes/

Abhannmor · 27/11/2024 11:05

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/11/2024 19:34

They did this in Ireland with the gay marriage vote.

Well the GRA was passed after the Referendum. But yeah basically it was like a Trojan Horse

annejumps · 29/11/2024 18:04

UtopiaPlanitia · 27/11/2024 02:53

I came across this picture on TwiX and I thought it was amusing and also kind of inspiring in a way too.
https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1861229695536103493/photo/1

Mace also retweeted Kara Dansky multiple times today:
https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1861145622524350519
A democrat woman also fighting for the rights of women. #HoldTheLine

AND

https://x.com/NancyMace/status/1861214720130228732
“Cheers, we’re going to win,” she says. Right back at you
@KDansky
#HoldTheLine

It’s good to see Democrat and Republican women working across the aisle on these types of issues where they agree.

Kara Dansky just posted about these developments on her Substack. TRA Democrats really want to pretend it's only crazy Marjorie Taylor Greene–type Republicans who oppose men in women's bathrooms but Mace is defying that characterization and citing Dems who object, and also has brought up men in women's prisons which Dems are loathe to talk about.

UtopiaPlanitia · 29/11/2024 23:57

annejumps · 29/11/2024 18:04

Kara Dansky just posted about these developments on her Substack. TRA Democrats really want to pretend it's only crazy Marjorie Taylor Greene–type Republicans who oppose men in women's bathrooms but Mace is defying that characterization and citing Dems who object, and also has brought up men in women's prisons which Dems are loathe to talk about.

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That sounds great.

Considering Mace gets up to 50k likes on some of her tweets on this issue, I’m not surprised she’s realised that it’s an issue that concerns a lot of people.

Also, she doesn’t seem the type to back down to threats of violence, rape and murder, So the various TRAs who are making disgusting phonecalls and videos, and sending disgusting emails and tweets, are only strengthening her defiance as well as showing her she’s hitting a nerve and has an opportunity to make the Dems look bad on the issues of women and children’s safety..

annejumps · 30/11/2024 01:10

Disappointed but not really surprised to see Frank Conniff, one of the old school MST3K writers which is one of my favorite shows, calling Mace a cunt.

UtopiaPlanitia · 30/11/2024 01:16

That kind of language towards women is always just beneath the surface with a certain kind of so-called ‘progressive’ man. Loves publicly burnishing his credentials as a feminist but hates a defiant woman who won’t do what she’s told.

annejumps · 30/11/2024 01:23

UtopiaPlanitia · 30/11/2024 01:16

That kind of language towards women is always just beneath the surface with a certain kind of so-called ‘progressive’ man. Loves publicly burnishing his credentials as a feminist but hates a defiant woman who won’t do what she’s told.

Yup. Turns out, at the end of the day, everyone knows what a cunt is and who has it.

borntobequiet · 06/12/2024 09:50

TRAs not doing themselves any favours again, then.

Helleofabore · 06/12/2024 09:59

More on it

https://x.com/annalissroy/status/1864748640436162561?s=46

Remember there are gender neutral toilets and individual members have their own toilets.

this is only about access to female single sex toilets

x.com

https://x.com/annalissroy/status/1864748640436162561?s=46

lcakethereforeIam · 06/12/2024 10:09

Any chance of a screenshot or a summary? Unfortunately, X isn't playing today. TIA.

ArabellaScott · 06/12/2024 10:14

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/05/trans-rights-bathrooms-congress-protest/

https://archive.ph/87VC4

That article has more - 15 arrests after protest.