Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

Its giving "anything that hurts the transes is a win even if the people doing it also want to hurt women".

You have a weird idea about what keeping men out of women's spaces is about. To you these are spaces that are all about the 'transes'. I assume you mean ALL the transes? Or only TW? (This bill is not trying to keep TM out of women's restrooms.)

It's not a 'win' for anyone to remove women's rights.
FWIW women's reproductive rights have always been contentious. Women's rights to use a toilet in the company of only biological women had only recently become contentious.

How does keeping women’s spaces single sex hurt women? What a weird take.

Yes, how odd 😵‍💫

Women and girls get single sex spaces.
Women and girls get single sex sports.

This is….bad? Somehow? 🤣🤣

Strawman. I did not say that it did.

:)

I'm pro-choice. If legal abortion was at issue, I would be opposing her. But supporting the right of a woman to choose safe abortion is not the litmus test of whether a person supports rights for women in general. People oppose and support the right to choose an abortion for many different reasons.
At the very least, by sponsoring this bill, this woman is showing she supports the human right of Congresswomen to privacy, dignity and and safety, by guaranteeing access to single sex communal toilets. You are implying that she is just sponsoring this bill because she hates trans people. Do you agree with that, at least?

Its giving "anything that hurts the transes is a win even if the people doing it also want to hurt women"

You said this. How are women hurt by reclaiming single sex spaces?

Breast reduction to alleviate pain and removal of breast tissue to treat gynecomastia is not "gender-affirming care". It's clinically indicated surgery for an actual medical problem. The fact that the surgery is on breasts doesn't put it in the category of gender-affirming care.
Ditto to the short term use of PBs for precocious puberty - actual medical problem.

Can you explain to me why those procedures and the limited use of PBs would necessarily get caught in a ban on unnecessary surgery?

IMO, it helps her political position to sponsor this bill.

And she does post about trans people a great deal (eg. Libs of TikTok material level).

I'm not a conservative feminist and I think she is right about single sex toilets and that she is brave.

She's not brave when her party is in power with all 3 levels of gov. Honestly quite disgusting, really, she hates women and this is just showmanship.

So PinkChestnut and JessaWoo, are you opposed to a bill guaranteeing single sex toilets for women because a woman who opposes abortion is sponsoring it?

Would you support such a bill if a Democrat Congresswoman was proposing it?

Or are you just opposed to single sex toilets?

Because in general any care for women is frowned upon by the Republicans. They do their level best to deny women healthcare.

I cant speak for Jessa, but I oppose this politician because I know that it is just theatre to stir up support from the useful idiots. She will happily right wing grift and fundraise off of this and say it gives her a mandate to continue to vote against women's right to choose.

I said the people who want to hurt trans people also want to hurt women, which is true in this case especially. This politician had voted against women's right to healthcare specifically.

“Gender-affirming care” is a made-up term, anyway.

It ddint exist before trans rights activism.

It’s very sneaky to make up a term, add in some procedures that don’t and have never had anything to do with procedures on “trans” children and then scream,”Look, they’ll take it all away!”.

She's getting death threats in a country with out of control gun use, so I think she is brave.
To say that a person is brave doesn't imply that you agree with them, or like them.
She's right about this.

For all I know she may be a ghastly woman whom I would loathe if I met. That's irrelevant. She is doing the right thing to try to ensure single sex toilets for women.

Women’s healthcare or access to abortion?

And if the latter, Democrats have been in power for 12 of the last 16 years, including the last 4. Why does increasing access to abortion only seem to matter for them now?

Sorry, apparently my tweet count was off - it's up to over 125 tweets from Nancy about the toilets in Congress. Perhaps they'll be a future historical site: the Mace LADIES restrooms.

And that Jame Gumb trans person threatening her with death is very very creepy.

Thanks.
So

1. are you in favour of single sex toilets for women?
2. would you support a bill guaranteeing single sex toilets for women if a Democrat Congresswoman/Congressman proposed it?

She’s getting a lot of online support. Politicians know when they’re into a vote-winner.

It’s a popular message delivered at the right time

@Snowypeaks

She's getting death threats in a country with out of control gun use, so I think she is brave.
To say that a person is brave doesn't imply that you agree with them, or like them.
She's right about this.

For all I know she may be a ghastly woman whom I would loathe if I met. That's irrelevant. She is doing the right thing to try to ensure single sex toilets for women.

She knew she would get some criticism - and some (just one that I've seen) threats, and much praise to balance that out. Are you thinking of the person she's targeting? What about any threats and abuse they might have received?

To repeat: Mace is out for political points, not for women. For herself, not for others.

I said the people who want to hurt trans people also want to hurt women, which is true in this case especially. This politician had voted against women's right to healthcare specifically.

And on the other side you've got people who will hurt women an unlimited amount to appease trans-identified men.

They both want to hurt women in some way.

1. For all women.

1. For all women, yes.