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Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress

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Hoardasurass · 19/11/2024 07:26

The quoted comments from the congresswoman are brilliant

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

First trans member lawmaker blasts GOP after bill blocks bathroom use

A trans war has broken out on Capitol Hill after a Republican lawmaker proposed a measure to block transgender women from using biological women's restrooms in the U.S. Capitol. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14098953/nancy-mace-trans-lawmaker-bathroom-capitol-hill-sarah-mcbride.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

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Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 14:12

@DeanElderberry . That’s sobering. Your last line really resonates. The end game seems to be an ‘open season’ on women (and girls/children) that the supporters and pushers of this stuff are advocating for. It is not a self regarding belief. They wish to impinge very badly on others.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 14:15

Can't remember where I read it but apparently Helen DeGeneres is moving to the UK because of Trump.

I don't think it's just because of Trump, I read that she bought a property in the Cotswolds a couple of months ago, apparently it's in with US celebs at the moment.

Chersfrozenface · 21/11/2024 14:20

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 14:15

Can't remember where I read it but apparently Helen DeGeneres is moving to the UK because of Trump.

I don't think it's just because of Trump, I read that she bought a property in the Cotswolds a couple of months ago, apparently it's in with US celebs at the moment.

What visa do US slebs need, out of interest?

Is there a special one?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 14:21

No idea!

Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 14:23

Well, Eva Longoria divides her time between Mexico and Spain. She said she didn’t leave because of the political situation. She did say the homelessness and taxes in California weren’t so great. There seems to be a huge drug problem with Fentanyl etc.

RedToothBrush · 21/11/2024 14:31

Chersfrozenface · 21/11/2024 14:20

What visa do US slebs need, out of interest?

Is there a special one?

Yes. It'll be either a global talent visa (if you have won a significant award in the arts they'll usually give you eligibility) or an entrepreneur business set up type visa. But most likely a global talent one.

RedToothBrush · 21/11/2024 14:35

Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 14:23

Well, Eva Longoria divides her time between Mexico and Spain. She said she didn’t leave because of the political situation. She did say the homelessness and taxes in California weren’t so great. There seems to be a huge drug problem with Fentanyl etc.

I have a British friend who settled in California but since left to live elsewhere in the US due to the drugs, crime, poorer work/life balance, cost of living, threat of earthquakes and the threat of wildfires in the state.

This was a few years ago now before there started to be a trend for it.

I do think it's a definitely not all sunshine.

Grammarnut · 21/11/2024 14:43

I don't believe trans women are men, so I don't have an issue with them being in women's spaces.
But most people disagree with you, @PinkChesnut because you are wrong. Transwomen are by definition men, otherwise they would not be called 'transwomen'.
And whatever your beliefs, you cannot decide for other women, who do not agree with you and are unhappy/uncomfortable/frightened/terrified/traumatised by finding a man in what they had thought was a safe, women-only space.
NB @PinkChesnut, you seem to have difficulty with the difference between knowledge (that which can be objectively proved e.g. distance between Earth and its moon) and belief (that which cannot be objectively proved, e.g. the Resurrection of Jesus called the Christ). Philosophy not your strong point?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 15:23

The "reasonable" "passing" McBride in action

x.com/meghanemurphy/status/1859388632597196926

AlisonDonut · 21/11/2024 15:30

It blows my mind that people genuinely think that a man that puts a dress on or says three little words immediately turns into a woman. Like an inverse pumpkin at midnight.

DeanElderberry · 21/11/2024 15:32

there's an image for the BS's artificial brains trust

DeanElderberry · 21/11/2024 15:34

If the carriage remains a carriage after midnight instead of turning into a pumpkin and a pack of feral gerbils, that's a cisformation scene, right?

SinnerBoy · 21/11/2024 16:13

Cisformation...

Ha hah!

Appalonia · 21/11/2024 16:20

I wonder what all the TRA s would do if Trump suddenly announced he was trans? Would they be forced to accept her as the woman he truly was.inside...?!

MarieDeGournay · 21/11/2024 16:50

Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 14:23

Well, Eva Longoria divides her time between Mexico and Spain. She said she didn’t leave because of the political situation. She did say the homelessness and taxes in California weren’t so great. There seems to be a huge drug problem with Fentanyl etc.

She didn't say that it was not because of the political situation: this is what she said about that:

..Donald Trump’s win was also a reason to leave. 'The shocking part is not that he won,” she said of former President Donald Trump’s victory over Vice President Kamala Harris. “It’s that a convicted criminal who spews so much hate could hold the highest office.”
“If he keeps his promises, it’s going to be a scary place,” she said, recalling how depressed she felt following Trump’s 2016 win.'

Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 17:26

Longoria says different in this recent article from The Independent on Monday:

”The Desperate Housewives alum, 49, recently revealed that she and her husband José Bastón, along with their six-year-old son Santiago, are splitting their time between living in Spain and Mexico City. However, Longoria wants fans to know that it isn’t because of the results of the 2024 US presidential election.”

and

“Will you please let them know I didn’t move out of the United Statesbecause of Trump?” Longoria asked Navarro on the podcast. “I’ve been in Europe for almost three years.”
She clarified that she left the U.S. because of work, adding: “I didn’t leave because of the political environment. I left because my work took me there.”

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/eva-longoria-moved-spain-trump-why-b2648810.html

Eva Longoria reveals she and family have relocated outside of ‘dystopian’ US

‘I get to escape and go somewhere. Most Americans aren’t so lucky,’ Longoria said

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/eva-longoria-son-family-election-usa-b2646504.html

Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 17:28

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 15:23

The "reasonable" "passing" McBride in action

x.com/meghanemurphy/status/1859388632597196926

Any chance some kindly person has a screenshot for those of us not on twitter?

ArabellaScott · 21/11/2024 17:35

Cailleach1 · 21/11/2024 17:28

Any chance some kindly person has a screenshot for those of us not on twitter?

It's a video clip, but here's Meghan's post.

Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress
zibzibara · 21/11/2024 17:37

PinkChesnut · 21/11/2024 12:06

Mace didn't bring this bill forward because of Trump, even though he is the actual threat.

I don't believe trans women are men, so I don't have an issue with them being in women's spaces.

Why do you believe that men who declare themselves to be women are women? What's preventing you from being skeptical of their claims?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2024 18:13

Wow.
Well done everyone for allowing the latest TRA determined to educate the women on FWR to display the sad limitations of their arguments. TWAW, obsession with genital checks, I'm not sharing the research I'm talking about with you for errr ... reasons... and you're all being unkind. Plus of course the politicians who has allegedly failed to comment on all sorts of random issues......

Quite the TRA bingo! 😂

Waitwhat23 · 21/11/2024 18:28

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2024 18:13

Wow.
Well done everyone for allowing the latest TRA determined to educate the women on FWR to display the sad limitations of their arguments. TWAW, obsession with genital checks, I'm not sharing the research I'm talking about with you for errr ... reasons... and you're all being unkind. Plus of course the politicians who has allegedly failed to comment on all sorts of random issues......

Quite the TRA bingo! 😂

'And bingo was his name-o!'

And before I'm jumped on for 'misgendering', or some such bullshite (remembering another poster's post which was deleted for quoting a well known line from a very famous novel), it's part of the song.

Republican Congresswoman bring forward Bill to ban transwomen from female facilities in Congress
DeanElderberry · 21/11/2024 18:31

The mindset where 'physical checks' (which don't seem to have been in the legislation anyway) become 'genital checks' rather than a sports coach using their physical senses, notably eyesight, to observe that one of the candidates for the girls' team is 8" taller and 100 lbs heavier than the others, and to ask to see their birth certificate, or to submit a cheek swab, on the basis of that, is very disturbing.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2024 18:58

DeanElderberry · 21/11/2024 18:31

The mindset where 'physical checks' (which don't seem to have been in the legislation anyway) become 'genital checks' rather than a sports coach using their physical senses, notably eyesight, to observe that one of the candidates for the girls' team is 8" taller and 100 lbs heavier than the others, and to ask to see their birth certificate, or to submit a cheek swab, on the basis of that, is very disturbing.

Isn't it? It's very revealing that as a sportswoman, feminist & teacher I never heard anyone talk about genital checks for decades until recently mainly male transactivists started saying the quiet bit out loud and obsessing about them.

duc748 · 21/11/2024 19:13

Btw I had a thought the other day (I know, I know!), would an ordinary X-ray of the pelvis area not sort the ducks from the drakes? Obviously a cheek swab is easier.

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