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Women kicking off at Wembley - protest at England vs Ireland Men's Match this Sunday

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fromorbit · 11/11/2024 19:05

The FA's suspension of a girl for the "crime" of knowing what a man looks like and wondering why he is in her football team is being protested this Sunday. Details:

On Sunday we will be outside Wembley Stadium from 1.30 pm onwards. Please come down and enjoy an afternoon of telling FA that women will not tolerate men in women’s football. Not at grassroots level, not at elite level. Defiance and laughter guaranteed.

Keep an eye on the 12o5 account on twitter for where the protestors are meeting up. Women's Football is coming home folks.
https://x.com/twelve0fiveUK

Protest planned at England vs Ireland over female teenager’s transgender comment ban
Action group hoping to convince Martina Navratilova to help promote their cause

Hundreds of women are planning a protest at England’s Nations League game against the Republic of Ireland over the banning of a teenage female footballer who asked a “bearded” transgender opponent: “Are you a man?”
A group calling itself Twelve O Five is behind the proposed Wembley demonstration amid growing outrage over a six-match suspension imposed last month by a national serious case panel on a 17-year-old with suspected autism, who wept upon being grilled about her comments last month.
The action has been called for 1.30pm, before Sunday’s 5pm kick-off, with organisers expecting hundreds to attend in protest against the teenager’s ban, which began on Monday, and the Football Association’s policy of allowing those born male to play in women’s football.
Hundreds of women attended a demonstration organised by the same group at the German Embassy in London on November 1 in opposition to the country’s recent law change criminalising the misgendering of transgender people. Similar action took place on the same day outside the nation’s embassies worldwide.
The group behind the London protest adopted the name Twelve O Five, meaning five past midnight, in reference to what they say is a German maxim about something already being too late to prevent.
One of its leaders, Jean Hatchet, told Telegraph Sport: “It’s blatantly unfair to put so much pressure on a girl so young and expect her to defend herself.
“So, as women, as stronger women in better positions to oppose this unfairness, we feel that we have to do something. We’re hoping to pull big figures in. Martina Navratilova has agreed to help promote. We’re hoping that kind of attention will get quite a lot of people down there.
“We’ll have a big banner, we’re going to have a megaphone, we’re going to have leaflets. So we’re just going to hit as many fans as possible and get them to pay attention. Because I think that’s the only way we can get the FA to look closely at how they’ve been manipulated.
“Our aim overall is to reverse the policy that the FA has in place.”
The girl whose plight has triggered Sunday’s protest will miss her club’s next two matches, with the remaining four games of her ban suspended for a year.
Her identity has been concealed by Telegraph Sport as she is a child and on the assessment pathway for autism.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/11/11/wembley-protests-england-vs-ireland-over-trans-footballer/

If you can't make it then do your bit by writing to your MP and the Sports Minister and asking them why the FA is allowing unfair matches across the UK. If you wanted to played mixed sex football teams are available.

Protest planned at England vs Ireland over female teenager’s transgender comment ban

Action group hoping to convince Martina Navratilova to help promote their cause

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/11/11/wembley-protests-england-vs-ireland-over-trans-footballer

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Lovelyview · 11/11/2024 19:52

I'm glad there's a protest planned and I'll write to my MP. This case is shocking.

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 20:08

Good on them.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/11/2024 20:46

I'll be there in sprit, make some noise women. 🤜👍

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/11/2024 21:22

I'll be with them in spirit 💪

fromorbit · 13/11/2024 02:27

Jean Hatchet

I’ll be on talkSPORT in the morning at 10.30am to represent twelve0fiveUK
and discuss the organised protest. Come and have a listen?

Jean's latest post is blistering:
https://x.com/JeanHatchet/status/1856253192188617116

Growing campaign to get Linker to stop pretending this is not an issue.

Gary Lineker told to address football’s failure to protect women
Match of the Day presenter urged to tackle issue of biological males in women’s sport amid concerns over safeguards

Telegraph
Gary Lineker has been challenged by Martina Navratilova and Sharron Davies to address football’s failure to stop biological males playing in the women’s game on his next podcast episode.
After issuing a request for potential questions on X, Lineker received dozens of messages from women’s sport campaigners concerned by an alleged absence of Football Association safeguards. Many cited Telegraph Sport coverage last week of a 17-year-old girl banned for questioning during a grass-roots match whether an opponent was “a man”.

https://archive.is/ANKUg

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https://x.com/JeanHatchet/status/1856253192188617116

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/11/2024 08:04

Thanks for posting Jean's latest post, it certainly was blistering and about time too. Get men the fuck out of women's sport. 🤬 Women make some noise.

Glamourreader · 13/11/2024 08:47

I'm so glad this protest is happening, we're so sick of being told to be quiet and go away.

All the high profile ex-players should be speaking up if they have any decency at all.

DrBlackbird · 13/11/2024 08:51

I just wish that every single female could walk out as soon as a male pretending to be female entered the arena. Not feasible as there’s too much resting on the sport continuing but the only way to highlight the unfairness of TW in woman’s sports is to leave them playing alone or against other TW.

MelodyMalone · 13/11/2024 08:54

To the women's trans manager who said they'd like to see a team of all trans women- great. Do it. Set up your own trans league and play each other, no problem with that. Stay out of women's teams.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/11/2024 10:33

Really glad there will be a protest. Go on the lasses! Flowers

NUFC69 · 13/11/2024 11:02

Excellent discussion on Talk sport radio this morning at ten. Danny Morphy and Simon Jordan were vociferously in support of keeping men out of women's sports.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/11/2024 11:55

There's a team of gender nonconforming women in Spain who formed their own football team and played their first league match and got creamed 19 - 0, that's a rugby score not a footie score. 🤣🤣

ginasevern · 13/11/2024 12:01

Slightly off track, but what I don't understand is why would a transwoman want to have a beard? Surely the whole point of transitioning is that you won't be happy until you look like a woman - and women don't have beards. It's not like beards are a permanent fixture, in fact they are deliberately cultivated. So why?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/11/2024 12:14

The Court of the EDI Jester's given a shout out to the protest - and has some very good points about the problem in general.

Lovelyview · 13/11/2024 12:37

ginasevern · 13/11/2024 12:01

Slightly off track, but what I don't understand is why would a transwoman want to have a beard? Surely the whole point of transitioning is that you won't be happy until you look like a woman - and women don't have beards. It's not like beards are a permanent fixture, in fact they are deliberately cultivated. So why?

Because they get off on making women uncomfortable. Since we are off the track I'll share the magnificent Magdalen Berns taking bearded 'transwoman' Alex Drummond apart.

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AlexP24 · 14/11/2024 14:48

Will keep watching to see where you are all meeting x

AlexP24 · 14/11/2024 14:48

And thank you for sharing

fromorbit · 14/11/2024 19:53

Labour peer David Triesman, and former head of FA 2008 to 2010, on fairness & safety for women & girls in football House of Lords and the case of the persecuted girl

If you can’t come to the protest please take part by writing the following in paper or card. Hold it up. Selfie. Post with hashtags #AreYouAMan #HesAMan #WomenAreWatching “FA - Get off your knees. Get men out of women’s football. It's your job” Post at 1.30pm on Sunday

Jean Hatchet's talksport interview:
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UtopiaPlanitia · 15/11/2024 00:59

Those are great video clips - thanks for posting them.

I'm so impressed with Jean Hatchet, she's just speaking plainly and clearly and I love hearing the knowledgeable support she gets from the men in the studio.

cariadlet · 16/11/2024 08:16

Excellent article in the critic by Jean Hatchet.
thecritic.co.uk/over-the-line/

cariadlet · 16/11/2024 08:17

Petition set up by the twelveofive group
chng.it/p4PWRCHVTJ

cariadlet · 16/11/2024 08:19

Why on earth was that post hidden as soon as I posted it? It was just a link to the twelveofive petition.

Women kicking off at Wembley - protest at England vs Ireland Men's Match this Sunday
GrammarTeacher · 16/11/2024 08:20

It's a link to a petition not in the petition board. That's why.

cariadlet · 16/11/2024 08:28

GrammarTeacher · 16/11/2024 08:20

It's a link to a petition not in the petition board. That's why.

Thanks!

I hadn't realised that there was a separate petitions board - nothing from there has ever cropped up for me in Active Conversations.

MelodyMalone · 16/11/2024 09:46

fromorbit · 14/11/2024 19:53

Labour peer David Triesman, and former head of FA 2008 to 2010, on fairness & safety for women & girls in football House of Lords and the case of the persecuted girl

If you can’t come to the protest please take part by writing the following in paper or card. Hold it up. Selfie. Post with hashtags #AreYouAMan #HesAMan #WomenAreWatching “FA - Get off your knees. Get men out of women’s football. It's your job” Post at 1.30pm on Sunday

Jean Hatchet's talksport interview:
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The talksport clip isn't working for me. But very well said, David Triesman.