This is why so many women voted Trump

[BabyLlamaZen]

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying it’s worth the horrors of the Trump administration (and what other women’s rights will be abolished). However, I can also empathise. Books like this are everywhere in baby sections of bookshops in USA. My american friend is naturally more conservative than myself although hated Trump and didn’t vote for him previously (she abstained and then she went Biden although she says she seriously regrets) and this time she voted Trump. She said this stuff is now everywhere and it’s constant. She also showed me a baby’s ABC book which included B for bisexual (and literally then described it as people who are sexually attracted to either gender). For babies.

Yes, that's our point. It's a social contagion. And no child is born in the wrong body.

What nolongersurprised is saying is, these stories made mainstream news in the US. They were on Fox, Matt Walsh’s show, even other more centrist shows. There’s a thread on Bill Maher for instance. It wasn’t Russian bots making it appear on those shows, was it?

They were widespread, widely read and widely viewed because of the significance of the events, not because of artificial amplification of the story by bots that then meant the stories for more coverage than they deserved. The stories got the coverage they deserved because of the significance of the stories. You can stick your fingers in your ears and say “la la la” but that doesn’t make it any less true.

I don't have any proof of this but i think governments and institutions love to shout 'bots' when the public starts noticing whats going on and speaking to each other about it.

Bots are making you notice so it doesnt count, somehow. You didnt find out through personal experiences therefore its not really an issue for you.

Its a brave person who would list all of the men in womens sports because if they get just one wrong or a vulnerable person is harmed, everything they say is discredited. So only a few get highlighted - thomas because he's telling us he's a man, or IK because of the genetic tests and the visuals of his opponent leaving the fight.

Bots are making you notice so it doesnt count, somehow. You didnt find out through personal experiences therefore its not really an issue for you.

Even if it was Russian bots that elevated the Loudoun rape case artificially, thank fuck they did, because otherwise we wouldn’t have known that a girl was raped in school girls’ bathroom and her father was arrested for protesting the school board for protecting the boy in question. Why would anyone want that story to die into obscurity?

It's mutual. I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, either.
It sounds like you're arguing that the personal /isn't/ political. And one should vote on the big, important things that effect the big, important people. Not little things that effect irrelevant people like me?
It was FWR that taught me how mad it is that women are expected to vote against our own (personal, private, even silly and insignificant) interests, in the name of some big, population-level ideology.
Edited to add:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political
"Issues that had previously been considered moral or trivial offenses in everyday actions were being acknowledged as oppressive structural norms."

You seem to be arguing that gender ideology is niche, though, and it’s not. It’s everywhere now, including schools.

Bots on X or whatever have a tiny influence compared to the infiltration of gender ideology at schools and into sport at all levels. As Bill Maher said, at every upper middle-class dinner party he attends, at least one parent has a trans or non-binary child. Most schools have at least one, statistically an autistic, troubled girl. Although often more than one - cause social contagion.

Filling in forms now gives you multiple different “gender” options and/or pronouns.

Gender ideology is troubling for parents, for athletes, for women.

A Democrat strategist dismissing the repudiation of it by voters as bot-driven would be pretty stupid

Are we to believe that the young women presenting their stories in front of legislator committees etc would have had no mention anywhere in traditional mainstream media? And that all the female athletes interviews in mainstream media is because of bots?

Or are you calling social media ‘bots’ due to algorithms? Really not sure what your point is? When Hubbard was at the Olympics, are you saying the only way we knew was because bots?

We know there are plenty of examples of males in female sport by the way. This site https://www.shewon.org is just the tip of it. The fact that it is quite wide spread and for each male in the sport there are many female athletes directly impacted means that even at grassroots many people now know from personal experience. If not them, then on the children’s teams.

Sorry. I misunderstood. So now your argument is the ‘there are so few that it has little impact’ tactic.

Except this doesn’t work because there doesn’t have to be many for it to make a significant impact. One male athlete can impact many female athletes along the way. And when those male athletes are winning in just about every sport that they are now allowed to participate in, they are noticed. Particularly the records they set.

Or is it your argument that so few people are interested in women’s sport that they wouldn’t notice this issue themselves?

Or that without the internet we simply wouldn’t know the records are set and events won by males as we wouldn’t see them?

Puberty blockers do not cause infertility, they put a temporary pause on puberty. Once you stop the medication, puberty proceeds as before.

I think the argument is that it’s happening but even though it’s being reported in major publications and even though it’s on TV somehow no one would really notice if it wasn’t for social media bots.

Vote winning assumption for 2028, sure

Hmm. Taking this point to its logical conclusion - and you won’t enjoy it - is that Matt Walsh et al. are part of the massive right-wing network that assist with the amplification. Bill Maher as one pundit on the Left who also talked about these types of stories among an ocean of pundits from the Right.

And we know children who go on puberty blockers don’t stop them.

So how does a male blocked at Tanner stage 2, who doesn’t stop puberty blockers and goes onto oestrogen, develop sperm?

not true for the “gender” cohort, not at all. Soz, as the kids say

Perhaps step away and have a think for a bit. That isn’t even close to what I think.

Being trans is not caused by “social contagion”.

Can you point to the part in the article you linked that concludes bots are responsible?

Can you point to the proof that Walsh et al are part of a conspiracy to artificially amplify stories about harm to women and children to - checks notes - talk more about harm to women and children?

how else do you explain the massive explosion in girls deciding they’re trans at the time of puberty?

And if they were “always there” - why aren’t there similar explosions in the middle-aged women? Middle-aged men are still coming out as “girls” 🙄

Well, you’re not really making yourself very clear.

The “gender cohort?”

Puberty blockers put a temporary pause on puberty. If and when you stop using the medication , puberty will continue as before. They do not cause infertility.

This is the same for whoever takes them. It’s a medicine- their effects don’t change depending on your approval of who uses them.

Middle-aged men are still coming out as “girls” 🙄

Are you rolling your eyes at the thought of trans people?

No, at the thought of middle aged men appropriating girlhood.

What does that mean?

Its not true because the right are talking about it?

Or its not important because, although its true, the right are talking about it? And they right don't really care, or wont reach the same conclusions as you want?

What would change if it was mainly left wing commentators talking about it?

Tandora

You have been around here long enough posting your TRA stuff to know puberty blockers aren’t stopped and to know that we know you know this. Your faux naivety or reversion to weak 2018 era argument isn’t going to cut it.

Similarly with your faux “what does that mean?” nonsense. Being disingenuous about understanding people’s objection to middle aged men claiming to be girls, not even women, isn’t new to you. You’re not new here.

Wrong! These children are being abused and pumped full of dangerous chemicals that will give them Osteoporosis at age 24, micro genitals, inability to ever achieve orgasm, lesions and tumours, stunted growth, and lower IQ, as well as numerous other problems.

It's the reason (left wing) governments around the world are ceasing puberty blockers. It damages and destroys childrens lives. And has been proven to be the biggest medical scandal since Thalidomide and Lobotomies. As proven, it has zero benefit to children. Children receiving mental therapy and psychiatric help for their delusions is what will allow children to live their best, and HEALTHIEST, lives.