Wes Streeting backs the Darlington nurses

[Zahariel]

https://x.com/CConcern/status/1850476023986401648

”BREAKING: The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Wes Streeting, has this week met with the Darlington nurses and said he is committed to the belief that sex is biological being reflected in the day-to-day running of the NHS under his watch. The nurses, who are being supported by the Christian Legal Centre, also handed in a CitizenGo petition signed by 48,000 people to Number 10 Downing Street calling for the government to do whatever is necessary to ensure women have access to single-sex changing rooms and toilets. The meeting followed a statement Mr Streeting made in the lead up to the General Election in June when he said on X/Twitter that he was ‘horrified’ by their case and wanted to meet. Mr Streeting gave the response after the nurses launched legal action against County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust over being forced to share a changing room with a man identifying as a woman. Darlington nurse, and President of the DNU, Bethany Hutchison, said: “We were nervous going into the meeting, but he put us at ease, gave us time and listened, which was encouraging. We now, however, need to see firm action from Wes and a clear consensus from the government and the NHS on these issues. “Sadly, we continue to be treated appallingly by the Trust. The policy they have in place is putting women at risk and is open to abuse and should be changed urgently. We have been shocked, however, to find that the ‘rights’ of a man identifying as a woman continue to be supported and promoted, while ours as women have been ignored and even pushed out. “We are not doing this just for nurses. We are doing this for women across the country, for example those who are working in the police force, but also for sisters, daughters and mothers everywhere.”

Maybe you should try listening to other peoples opinions as well - I said our views vary and I fully support your right to have an opinion - I don't agree with it. What a wonderful world we have where we can disagree.

I got the impression that it was the harm being done to children and young people that led Streeting to change his view, particularly the harm to same-sex oriented young people. Rather than the impact on gay men.

When it comes to what women can do with their own bodies I listen to the women.

So do you think that these nurses should be forced by their employer to change with a male who says he's a woman?

Do you listen to ALL women's voices?

Do you now? I tend to weigh up the entire argument rather than just listening to one part of it. I consider Abortion to always be wrong, but quite often to be the "least wrong" of several options, depending on circumstances.

I respect your opinion entirely, however different it is, or similar, to mine.

Let's not derail this important thread however.

So do you think that these nurses should be forced by their employer to change with a male who says he's a woman?

No.

I'm not interested in what the men are saying when it comes them trying to control women's bodies.

Good.

So are you, like me, flabbergasted that these nurses haven't been supported by their own unions or regulatory bodies like the RCN?

Clearly you don't understand the other arguments about abortion, thats ok, you don't seem a very tolerant person, I am not surprised you have not looked into alternatives.

Please let's end it there, you aren't open to other peoples perspectives.

Is your political opinion that there is one self-evidently right position, and that no opposition to it should be allowed? And if I agree with you on one issue, I should therefore obviously agree with you on every other issue?

I will be surprised if buffer zones are deemed to be unlawful. I do think that the impact of such things should be very carefully considered; if only the "righteous" (from any perspective) are allowed to speak out, we will end up stuck with an unbalanced society, as has often been the case in the past for long periods when "heretical" views were suppressed.

https://www.rcn.org.uk/Professional-Development/publications/equity-diversity-and-inclusion-strategy-uk-pub-011-613

it does not mention sex, it does mention gender. There’s 0 chance these nurses would have been supported by the RCN

Oh I know that.

I'm just making the point that posters trying to make out that these posters are aligned with Christian (anti abortion) groups should consider the fact that it is terrible that they were not supported by bodies who ought to support them.

Is your political opinion that there is one self-evidently right position

When it comes to women and control of their own bodies the answer is yes.

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/nhs-nurses-meet-wes-streeting-over-single-sex-changing-rooms/

Pleasurably unbiased and middle leaning write up of all this

I don't care one jot who is assisting with funding the D5 with making their case. Only that their case is being made. Trying to smear the D5 by way of their supporters is distracted whataboutery at best, the work of a TRA at worst.

I know - I was backing up your point 👍

its outrageous that these nurses can’t look to the actual bodies that are meant to support them

Sorry I have a virus and a woolly head!

Yes it's disgraceful and a typical TRA tactic to imply that women are 'right aligned' therefore (presumably) shouldn't have rights?

It was last year I think. He was asked 'what is a woman' and he said, Adult Human Female. He then went on to talk about the effects young gay people. This was about 'transing the gay away' I think that's when he really got how detrimental trans rights were if they didn't take account of ALL rights. He stated that he had done a volte face but wasn't ashamed at all.

I wish I could remember who he was talking to but sorry, I just remember that the Labour front bench were tying themselves in knots and then suddenly here was Streeting stating very clearly that women were their biological sex. It was, in no way, anti trans but he finally got it.

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/nhs-nurses-meet-wes-streeting-over-single-sex-changing-rooms/

As some of us have been saying forever, feminism is a grassroots movement and no matter who is in charge we will need to keep holding politicians to account.

If this is Streeting's policy, I'll take it.

I have to say he looks a bit cornered in the photo, some how I think this is more about a photo op for the nurses backers than it is about Wes Streeting backing them wholeheartedly.

What do you mean by a photo for the nurses' backers?

Good stuff.

The Sliver Fox is not convinced that Streeting will.

I don't think he looks cornered at all. He looks perfectly confident in the photo.
This is what we want. The captured politicians who've been spouting TWAW nonsense for years having the confidence to admit they're wrong. He's led the government into accepting Cass (despite the number of trans extremist MPs they have) and I suspect will be making it much harder for his captured colleagues to keep pushing their "trans kids" mantras - especially as they decide what to do over the draft gender questioning children guidelines for schools.