Women with alopecia harassed in woman's toilets at airport

[Christinapple]

https://x.com/lindSAYhanNAH3/status/1844696180887794159

I've said it several times, the gender critical movement harms all women. Any women who doesn't meet the criteria of what a woman "should look like" is at risk of being wrongly accused of being trans.

Also makes me wonder about that other thread about FWSSport. If a woman with alopecia plays sport with other women are people who are gender critical going to mistake her as a man and report her to FWSSport who will store data on her?

Agreed. I am however despairing of the knee-jerk "didn't happen" responses.

Well, there are outliers, as I said. They aren't the majority. The reason I keep talking about studies is the well worn and wholly false claims that "nobody can tell other people's sex" when it's been shown again and again that MOST people can, from an early age, and extremely easily. As I said. It's really not "a cloud cuckoo land view" as if I just invented it or pulled it out of nowhere, nor simply a personal opinion. If you wish to believe differently and that most people can't despite the evidence, that's up to you, but it's really not what the majority of evidence shows. 🙄

Anyway. I do hope it's not me being accused of making "knee jerk didn't happen" responses. Because I didn't say that, and very few of us did. We are questioning the reasoning of the OP, however, not to mention the usual claims that this is all somehow the fault of "GC women".

And when they're not drunk, or coked up? If they have taken their prescription meds?

We can tell men and women apart with a very high degree of accuracy - 98-99%. And not just by their faces. Their gait, their proportions. Their voices.
Babies can do it. Your dog or cat can do it, too.

That doesn't mean that every individual, whatever the circumstances, whether or not they have impaired sensory ability, can do this. It means that it's a fundamental human ability. Maybe Shouty Woman can't tell, but I'm betting she was just being horrible.

I'm surprised at the number of people here saying this didn't happen, why would she lie?

Christinapple picks one occurance to prove that gender critical people are bad but if we point out multiple transwomen that have actually harmed women then that's us being transphobic. We cherry pick isolated incidents to smear all transpeople which us wrong but a single incident is absolutely fine for the genderists to declare that not believing in gender makes us the most awful people to walk the earth.

Can anyone sum up the thread for me? Nobody believes this shite, right?

Because trans activists gonna trans activist?

Article

https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/10/14/woman-with-alopecia-left-in-tears-after-being-verbally-assault-in-bathroom-over-gender-identity/

Prick News isn't a reliable media source, Christina.

Yes, woman with hairloss was mistaken for a male in airport toilets. Some people think this the fault of gender critical women for encouraging the challenging of men in women's spaces, others think it's the fault of trans activists who push for men to be in women's spaces.

I don't doubt that these things very occasionally happen. It is a problem that has arisen because women can no longer guarantee that their facilities will be male free.

It is a problem creating by transactivism and women are getting the blame.

Stop pushing for men in women's spaces and we'll all go back to being comfortable, knowing that every person in the women's loos is a woman regardless of how they look.

The woman who tweeted this is gender critical

How do you know?

I am unclear whether the incident actually happened to Lindsay Walter personally as the Tweet is a screenshot, rather than her writing about the incident, or if it's her pasting something from elsewhere. Pink News reports the Tweet without further comment from her. Perhaps she answers in the comments but I didn't see it.

Trust me it happens. I'm a butch lesbian, happens to me a lot in women's toilets. I love gay venues partly because of the toilets. I prefer to share with drag Queens than be glared at or rudely told to get out, but thats just me.
I look forward to the day we have gender neutral toileting arrangements like some secondary schools do now. The cubicle thing. I am aware others feel strongly that this isn't a problem but it has been for me for decades!

Those lovely "gender neutral" toilets in schools result in some girls dehydrating themselves so they don't have to pee during the day and bunking off school when they have their period.

She makes posts such as this

That's not being gender critical, that's just not being insane.

And she probably doesn't even realise you can get cancelled for saying stuff like that.

@Christinapple I am not seeing anything in the article itself that says shouty woman thought the runner was "transgender".
The title is Prick News's interpretation of the situation.

Your attempt to exploit someone's medical condition (someone you presumably don't even know) for your own ends is truly disgusting.

She makes posts such as this

That's actually what most people think. It doesn't mean she would label herself as a gender critical feminist.

I've just had a look at the post history of the person who started this thread. They are in favour of everything from men in women's sports and prisons, to chucking soup at women you don't like.

This thread has been made only to undermine women's concerns about men in their spaces.

It's men's activism disguised as concern for women with alopecia.

This is spot-on.

I was sceptical (upthread) about whether this happened, but I'm content to accept that it did. That still doesn't make it a GC thing, more like an abelist or body-shaming thing.

Using this to pretend that all women are put at risk by GC beliefs, by someone who has a track record of being against women's rights, is dishonest.

What @ArcheryAnnie said.

I see dailymail and "reddux" used as "sources" here all the time.

Unfortunately most of the mainstream media seems unable to say that women don't have penises.

That will be because they are reliable - especially Reduxx, who really set the gold standard for investigative journalism. The Daily Mail has its flaws but is reliable on this issue.