LGB Alliance conference disrupted by TRAs

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Do these idiots really think they are clever.

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1844755779665948762?t=8n-3lIZxX9BIED6MRh9pGg&s=19

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Trans activists have just disrupted the annual Conference being held by LGB Alliance by releasing insects in the main hall.

These nasty individuals who seek to disrupt a peaceful conference of lesbian and gay people show themselves up to be the real bigots.

I've not read the news article but I did see Helen Joyce on TV saying they had tried to talk to them and they were scared and couldn't understand why the LGB Alliance wasn't nasty to them.

Friends of mine at the LGBA conference tried to politely engage with them because it was clear that they weren't LGB — they were very uncomfortable and as the conference is a relaxed and friendly event they stood out for a number of reasons. My friends were polite and welcoming despite feeling very wary of them. As lesbians and gay men, we're used to encountering people who aren't comfortable around people like us. When you get that behaviour at a conference centred on LGB issues it stands out a mile.

So they did intentionally target a lesbian married to someone who identifies as a trans man? Huh.

(Also even the thing about the crickets seems a wee bit fake. They apparently weren't the chirping kind!)

Yeah, it wasn't coincidence that it was Jamie's talk that got interrupted

"... Most recently, they infiltrated anti-transgender hate group LGB Alliance’s conference and released over 6,000 crickets in the middle of a talk held by the most boring fake whistleblower, Jamie Reed....

AM: One thing I was wondering was what led you to target the conference specifically. Did you choose to do it during specifically Jamie Reed's time or was it just by chance that it lined up like that?

Crash: So there was quite a lot of discussion actually about when we were going to release the bugs. But it was specifically during the talk with Jamie Reed because she was one of the people that overthrew the place that's like healthcare for trans kids in the United States. And she was wanting to talk about how we can do more of that. And basically bragging about how she's taken healthcare and transitioning away from kids in the United States. And we were like, you know, we've got enough of that already. Her speech was one of the ones that was most targeted towards trans kids. We were like, okay, that seems like the one. "

Those kids are just clueless.

I find the claim of how they smuggled the insects in: bringing in the crickets. We had bags taped to our legs disturbing, not just because it seems unlikely to be true (the containers for 6,000 or even 1,000 crickets seem too bulky to conceal under a child's clothes) but because it's priming silly, fanatically committed, youngsters into thinking that going into crowded spaces with things taped to their bodies is a wonderful heroic deed.

As lesbians and gay men, we're used to encountering people who aren't comfortable around people like us.

I'm so sorry to read this. Despite all the changes in the past few decades, homophobia persists.

Apostates are worse than heathens.

And they targeted the grownup who took their candy away because the cruel dentist says it's bad for their teeth. Who needs teeth anway?

Yeah - the photos post-cricket-release showed that the crickets were transported in eggbox-style packaging. Unless they were dressed as clowns (always possible), taping the crickets to their legs seems unlikely.

You are absolutely right re the extremism of it all. The subsequent statements by these children seem to be deliberately escalating the issue - they've explicitly said they will get more and more extreme. The adults in this group have done these kids so much actual harm, first to their mental health by teaching them that the world is against them (it isn't - they are cossetted beyond belief) and then by egging them on to perform actions that will have really longlasting legal, social and economic consequences well into their adult lives.

In answer to what they would like:

It would be a world in which we were able to medically transition safely and without having to like years and years and years and years and years and years of waiting lists. It would be a world where gender was taught respectfully and not as a debate point. It would be a world where we weren't harassed for just existing and were just not like free to be ourselves without having to deal with people just being willfully ignorant and sometimes just intellectually cool. And so it would be a day to day life. It would be a world where we were left in peace and be able to live our lives as we are.

So they WERE treated exactly like this at the conference.

And the idea of being able to medically transition safely is somewhat at odds with the reality of the degree of side effects and a lack of proven clinical effectiveness.

They've been brainwashed into believing a magic bullet theory that doesn't exist.

It's really sad.

Viewing the cynicism and violent tendencies of some of the adults involved in this I'd be more worried that a child prepared to let someone tape something to them and to enter a place they are protesting against may not have an adult life.

The indignation that when they had short hair they were treated as a boy (which was what they wanted) by the nasty teacher, but that when the nasty teacher heard they had transitioned they were treated as a girl (which they didn't want), made me wonder why they didn't adopt the obvious, insect-free solution of desisting and going back to being treated as a boy.

That particular specimen does seem both dim and muddle-headed, even for a pampered very young person.

ArcheryAnnie You are absolutely right re the extremism of it all. The subsequent statements by these children seem to be deliberately escalating the issue - they've explicitly said they will get more and more extreme.

I think you've identified something there that has been forming in my mind for a while - extremism existing as a thing in itself rather than a means to achieve an end.
This is all very contentious of course, and I am NOT condoning it, but:
there is a long tradition of aggrieved groups staging 'spectaculars' to get the attention of the government and the public - negative attention, but nonetheless, attention. That leads to some form of negotiation and hopefully some form of agreement and settlement.

What seems to be happening now is that the 'spectacular' is all there is, and is the alpha and the omega of activism. Throw soup at paintings. At people. Block traffic. Set off fire bombs. Attack speakers. Release bugs. Then move on to the next stunt. And there may well be overlap between the people doing these actions, so after you've 'done' a painting in support of the Just Stop Oil, do you then look around for something or someone else to throw something at, because that's all you do? Keeping acting, don't pause to think or debate. No debate, just action.

And as you say, ArcheryAnnie, the 'stunts' become more extreme - look at what is happening in France with TRAs setting fire to buildings, arming themselves, and issuing very credible death threats.

This kind of campaigning seems to be all about the medium, not the message. Feck the message, where's my next adrenaline-rush action?

Keeping acting, don't pause to think or debate. No debate, just action.

Well, it's called "activism" and the perpetrators are called "activists". They often describe themselves thus and only thus.

The actual campaign matters less - as long as it's one of the fashionable ones

But it was specifically during the talk with Jamie Reed because she was one of the people that overthrew the place that's like healthcare for trans kids in the United States. And she was wanting to talk about how we can do more of that. And basically bragging about how she's taken healthcare and transitioning away from kids in the United States. And we were like, you know, we've got enough of that already. Her speech was one of the ones that was most targeted towards trans kids. We were like, okay, that seems like the one.

I think was is so depressing about this, is not just the intent, but the pathetically childish language and a complete misunderstanding of the situation.

I dont know which is worse. That they really are that dim or that they have been spoon fed this narrative and just adopted it without bothering to understand.

Unfortunately this has been the trend for some years now.

Which is why some deeply committed eco warriors of an older generation found Greta Thunberg deeply embarrassing and in the long run a negative element to a climate change compaign.

She was totally about the photo op (and another who was possible exploited by older people / parents) to become this naif symbol that other parents then pushed their children to be.

Do you remember all those nauseating protests where children were lined up by proud parents to parrot suitabley green, in both senses of the word, statements.

And of course the much older tradition of the "black bloc" who would turn up at any available march of demo, costumed in black outfits and masks (long before covid) with the intention of staging an "event" that's main purpose was to provide a photo op for the media.

How many marches / demos have only been recorded in the news as being the antics of (in most instances posh young men) climbing a statue or throwing paint.

And from this older version, and the newer one, children think getting a photo in the news is the same as actually campaigning, trying to get politicians to change their ideas about issues.

I am sure some where there are young people who are more than able to articulate on behalf of a cause, and lobby etc.. But that would mean the media having to also think.

So much easier to have well turned out child activists pushed forwards by their weeping mothers, who coined the now dread phrase, young people have never had it so bad.

I suspect young people have never had parents who so relentlessly fail to help their children grow up into thorough thinking young adults, rather than having a hissy fit because they stamped their feet and thought everyone would listen.

Earlier this year, the country banned puberty blockers entirely.

Are they woefully misinformed, or simply dishonest? Unfortunate children on PBs can continue to take them, as can adults have various other "treatments."

I am getting Children's Crusade vibes.

It’s projection. They despise us and can’t imagine that what we actually feel for them in return is a kind of mixture of pity and eye rolls.

"Are they lying, or thick? " is quite a common question around here, sadly!

I dunno, I think it's a desperation to gang up against an enemy in order to emphasise the 'in group'. Even if the enemy is a strawman.

In fact especially.

These kids are well aware that the conference attendees are safe, sane, sensible and reasonable people. They can rail against them, and even do some.performative 'protest' without any risk.

Same reason the 'antifa' lot turn up to bravely shout threats and obscenities at a bunch of middle aged women. They'll not be out actually protesting real fascists. They're all well aware that 'terfs' present no threat.

It's just toddlers insisting mummy listen to them or they'll scream.

In fact, given that some of them have apparently got parents who are spectacularly and publically failing to protect them, one might speculate this is a desperate way to seek boundaries and people who will actually firmly and politely say 'no' to them.

Yes. Why would any teenager go into a conference and stay for hours if they didn’t feel physically safe?

There are many inconsistencies in this incident.

yeah, I'm imagining those teenagers turning up to the conference and finding it actually full of their favourite aunts and uncles

I've just thought these little brats should be grateful guest right is no longer really a thing in this culture.

Forgive me if I have missed it, but have they been charged for the attack on the conference?