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How best to answer 'What are your preferred pronouns?' in an intervew

607 replies

NancyDrawed · 23/09/2024 17:19

I have been out of the workforce for a very long time but finally have an in-person interview later this week.

The confirmation email is signed by a name followed by (he/him/his). I need to get a job. But I am trying to get my head around what I would say if I was directly asked what my preferred pronouns are.

On principle I would like to say 'I'm not a follower of that ideology so use whichever you see fit' or something along those lines, but is that likely to mean I have no chance of getting the job?

I am clearly female, so a small part of me would want to say he/him/his just to see the reaction!

It might not even come up at all, but I'd like to be prepared.

OP posts:
NPET · 24/09/2024 12:25

Catsmere · 24/09/2024 00:06

And the answer to that would be, "What sort of manager doesn't bother with pronouncing people's actual names correctly?"

The sort of manager who needs to know "my" pronouns!!

NPET · 24/09/2024 12:29

Callipygion · 24/09/2024 11:45

You don’t actually need pronouns, do you, when talking directly to someone? “That’s not very helpful, she/her” doesn’t work does it?

The world is full of arseholes, isn’t it.

Edited

Definitely. And 98% of them are male.

Sorry - having a bad day ☹️

NPET · 24/09/2024 12:36

I hope you're right. Some interviews are completely "old school" and don't talk about such things; sometimes you get "modern" interviewers who think they NEED to push all the woke buttons.

Edingril · 24/09/2024 12:46

LindorDoubleChoc · 24/09/2024 11:25

Because the interview confirmation email is signed by someone who has announced his pronouns. Suggests the culture of the workplace? Just a thought.

So they use pronouns doesn't mean it will be an interview question

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/09/2024 13:10

As someone with a female body I find that breathtakingly offensive. It matters a LOT to me that the language of womanhood is not made into something sexist and/or meaningless by including males.

If you think the men it "might matter to" are more important than women like me to whom it also matters but in the exact opposite way that is of course your right, but pleas understand and own that you are doing is not a nice, no cost gesture, but endorsing a sexist position to the detriment of female rights and visbility.

Perfectly put @FlirtsWithRhinos

StellaAndCrow · 24/09/2024 13:17

My work had a phase of offering an email template with space for pronouns, and some people thought it was the done thing so added them.
The person emailing you may well not feel strongly about them, may have added them at some point and forgotten they're there. They're not necessarily a zealot. I'd be surprised if you're asked at interview, but if it happened I think I'd just say "I don't mind" then I'd check their policies before accepting a job,

TofuTart · 24/09/2024 13:17

Edingril · 24/09/2024 12:46

So they use pronouns doesn't mean it will be an interview question

Yes, just because they have used them doesn't mean they'll automatically make you do it as well.

TofuTart · 24/09/2024 13:20

I'd be surprised if you're asked at interview, but if it happened I think I'd just say "I don't mind

See, when you say "you don't mind" - would you really not?
I mean, I'm female but I wouldn't want to be repeatedly referred to as he by other people.
It might not bother you, but it would me and presumably lots of others too in RL.

StellaAndCrow · 24/09/2024 13:32

FlirtsWithRhinos · 23/09/2024 21:08

The name thing is interesting isn't it.

People say "oh it's just like your name" but it isn't really, is it? Most people don't chose their name. At most they might chose the variation.

It's more like saying "what name do you think best describes you?".

And someone replying "Oh I think I'm a Mary, I'm definitely a Mary sort of a person".

And then getting all annoyed that the other person in the office called Mary doesn't particularly appreciate being lumped in as "a Mary sort of a person" at all.

And then insisting that you get to use the other Mary's mug because it says Mary on it.

Thank you, I think that's a really good analogy - I may steal it if you don't mind! :) xx

StellaAndCrow · 24/09/2024 13:33

Realistically I'd probably go with "Female pronouns are fine thanks" as suggested above, if I was keen on the job.

StellaAndCrow · 24/09/2024 13:35

TofuTart · 24/09/2024 13:20

I'd be surprised if you're asked at interview, but if it happened I think I'd just say "I don't mind

See, when you say "you don't mind" - would you really not?
I mean, I'm female but I wouldn't want to be repeatedly referred to as he by other people.
It might not bother you, but it would me and presumably lots of others too in RL.

Yes, I really wouldn't mind.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/09/2024 13:37

It would be an interesting experiment, wouldn't it? I wouldn't mind but I can't see it being easy for them to keep up, I'm obviously very much a woman.

NPET · 24/09/2024 14:13

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/09/2024 13:10

As someone with a female body I find that breathtakingly offensive. It matters a LOT to me that the language of womanhood is not made into something sexist and/or meaningless by including males.

If you think the men it "might matter to" are more important than women like me to whom it also matters but in the exact opposite way that is of course your right, but pleas understand and own that you are doing is not a nice, no cost gesture, but endorsing a sexist position to the detriment of female rights and visbility.

Perfectly put @FlirtsWithRhinos

As I said above/below, I'm having a bad day. I hope I can use it to say I'm f - sorry I'm really annoyed about men "seeming" (I'll be generous) to take over what shred of femininity we've got left.
In a film (I think it was called "Junior"?), when Emma Thompson hears that men can get pregnant, you expect her to say "Good - they can see what it's like", but instead she says"OMG Is there anything they won't take from us?".
And that's how I feel. Aren't they happy with their p? I'm "happy" with my v. And I'm happy being called she, her, a woman, even a girl. I want to retain those things. I want to retain my femininity.

SORRY to anyone I've offended. But ☹️

Delphinium20 · 24/09/2024 14:40

Mumteedum · 23/09/2024 17:43

How about "people have always referred to me as she and her".

This is probably the smartest response. If you need the job, you risk not getting it if you use a direct approach that shows your disproval. If the interviewer seems to be asking so as not to offend you, but otherwise doesn't act cult like, then ask for a higher pay cause their desperation not to offend you may mean they are desperate to hire!!

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 24/09/2024 16:10

Edingril · 24/09/2024 12:46

So they use pronouns doesn't mean it will be an interview question

Preparing for an interview involves thinking through possible answers to possible questions.

It's not an uncommon question in life these days (see posters experiences above) so it makes sense to have an answer ready.

Not sure why this is such a difficult concept to grasp?

If your response to this is'just say she/ her' then please RTFT.

DadJoke · 24/09/2024 16:26

Delphinium20 · 24/09/2024 14:40

This is probably the smartest response. If you need the job, you risk not getting it if you use a direct approach that shows your disproval. If the interviewer seems to be asking so as not to offend you, but otherwise doesn't act cult like, then ask for a higher pay cause their desperation not to offend you may mean they are desperate to hire!!

"What's your name?"
"People always refer to me as Brian"

That works.

Findwen · 24/09/2024 16:36

Say very slowly with a long gap in between both words: Nick / Her

Ask them to repeat it. Look horrified at them.

MelodyMalone · 24/09/2024 17:48

ThatFlightyTemptress · 23/09/2024 17:24

It’s like someone asking you what name you’d prefer to be called by - it’s a courtesy, just to check they are addressing you how you’d prefer. It’s not a test, so don’t be a difficult arsehole - just tell them and move on. You’ll never hear another thing about it.

Well, not really. They're unlikely to start referring to you in the third person during a job interview.

MelodyMalone · 24/09/2024 18:04

Anyway, how about "I identify as gender fluid, hactually, so feel free to use whatever pronouns seem to fit with however you deem I'm presenting myself on any given day ".

I can't see what could possibly go wrong.

Brefugee · 24/09/2024 18:39

TofuTart · 24/09/2024 13:20

I'd be surprised if you're asked at interview, but if it happened I think I'd just say "I don't mind

See, when you say "you don't mind" - would you really not?
I mean, I'm female but I wouldn't want to be repeatedly referred to as he by other people.
It might not bother you, but it would me and presumably lots of others too in RL.

i literally don't care. I have always worked in a male environment, and i been "misgendered" many many times. I don't care. And it amuses me when someone has been making assumptions and does a double take when they see me.

EasternStandard · 24/09/2024 18:41

TofuTart · 24/09/2024 13:20

I'd be surprised if you're asked at interview, but if it happened I think I'd just say "I don't mind

See, when you say "you don't mind" - would you really not?
I mean, I'm female but I wouldn't want to be repeatedly referred to as he by other people.
It might not bother you, but it would me and presumably lots of others too in RL.

I wouldn't say I don't mind in an interview but gender ideology is much more of an issue for me than someone getting my pronoun wrong. It's never happened, to my knowledge anyway

ErrolTheDragon · 24/09/2024 19:06

"What's your name?"
"People always refer to me as Brian"

That works.

Someone obviously doesn't understand the difference between given names and pronouns.

AlexandraLeaving · 24/09/2024 20:32

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/09/2024 12:24

Out of interest have you read the thread? I've posted already about why "It honestly doesn't matter to me, but it might to someone else" is not the casual kindness it might appear at first, but to summarise:

When you accept that male people may legitimately use women's language for themselves, you accept that being a "woman" is about how a person thinks not the body they have.

That means you are accepting that every single other person who uses women's language for themselves has that "womanny way of thinking", and that whatever we know happened to Women in the past (and indeed today) must have happened to them because of that womanny way of thinking not because they have female bodies.

As someone with a female body I find that breathtakingly offensive. It matters a LOT to me that the language of womanhood is not made into something sexist and/or meaningless by including males.

If you think the men it "might matter to" are more important than women like me to whom it also matters but in the exact opposite way that is of course your right, but pleas understand and own that you are doing is not a nice, no cost gesture, but endorsing a sexist position to the detriment of female rights and visbility.

This - very much this.

AlexandraLeaving · 24/09/2024 20:44

Haroldwilson · 23/09/2024 17:50

'Oh, you can call me you. I think thee and thou are a bit old fashioned, don't you?'

In reality I'd say 'I'm a she, thanks'

Never understand why you have to give two pronouns, as if anyone is she/him or he/her

See, I would really love to have the courage to say 'thee/thou' if forced to 'declare my preferred pronouns'. As well as being second person pronouns (which are more relevant to the likely conversation when speaking TO rather than about each other), I think their linguistic origins (like the French 'tu' instead of 'vous') and their history (think of the seventeenth century Quakers who refused to use 'you' when addressing the nobility as they thought it reinforced social class divisions and preferred the more egalitarian 'thou' irrespective of rank) create a sense of humility and egalitarianism that is somewhat lacking in the current pronoun world.

Catsmere · 24/09/2024 21:02

NPET · 24/09/2024 12:25

The sort of manager who needs to know "my" pronouns!!

Ha, yes!

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