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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How best to answer 'What are your preferred pronouns?' in an intervew

607 replies

NancyDrawed · 23/09/2024 17:19

I have been out of the workforce for a very long time but finally have an in-person interview later this week.

The confirmation email is signed by a name followed by (he/him/his). I need to get a job. But I am trying to get my head around what I would say if I was directly asked what my preferred pronouns are.

On principle I would like to say 'I'm not a follower of that ideology so use whichever you see fit' or something along those lines, but is that likely to mean I have no chance of getting the job?

I am clearly female, so a small part of me would want to say he/him/his just to see the reaction!

It might not even come up at all, but I'd like to be prepared.

OP posts:
OchonAgusOchonOh · 23/09/2024 19:28

deargodno · 23/09/2024 18:31

Pronouns are a basic element of grammar, so if you aren't a "follower of that ideology," (the English language, and in fact every language?) it may be best to look for a job that doesn't require language. Maybe grunting at people would work.

Edited

Pronouns are obviously not an ideology and nobody on here is suggesting they are. However, the notion of preferred pronouns is very much an ideology.

I think you know that's what posters mean when they refer to it as an ideology though...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/09/2024 19:31

CorruptedCauldron · 23/09/2024 18:28

I’d casually say ‘female pronouns are fine’ as if I’d never given the matter any thought. Non-committal but non-cultish. I would never say ‘She/her’.

Yes, this is a good answer.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 23/09/2024 19:34

deargodno · 23/09/2024 18:41

Well, no, it's a useful descriptor.

If someone has a name that gives no information or cultural clues and it's in an email/written form then you have no idea whether Alex is male or female, unless Alex lists pronouns in their signature. You'd be mad that Alex wanted people to know that she was female, instead of people assuming they were talking to Alex a man? Why?

Personally, I would think Alex was an idiot not to take advantage of her ambiguous name given the research that shows males are taken more seriously in the workplace.

saraclara · 23/09/2024 19:35

DelphiniumBlue · 23/09/2024 17:58

“I don’t feel that’s an appropriate question for a variety of reasons, I wouldn’t dream of asking you about your gender or sexuality.”

In an interview for a job you really want? I don't believe you.

SonjaBarkerFinch · 23/09/2024 19:36

ditalini · 23/09/2024 17:42

Because it could be really triggering for a trans person who hasn't come out yet - you're forcing them to either use the pronouns for the gender that they don't identify with, or out themselves before they're ready.

Not very kind. Not very inclusive. If someone wants you to use particular pronouns they can let you know.

Well let’s all start using pronouns then. I’m not about to bed over backwards and Be Kind to pander to a trans.

She/Her

DoloresHargreeves · 23/09/2024 19:38

If you're a woman then she / her is standard. I don't think it's weird to answer with that.

midnights92 · 23/09/2024 19:38

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/09/2024 17:54

Guess it’s time for this again for all the “but why is it a problem?” comments

it’s because it’s normalising the idea that men can use female pronouns and vice versa and that others should be compelled to go along with it

But the OP is not a man, so she won't be asking them to do this.

DoloresHargreeves · 23/09/2024 19:38

If you're a woman then she / her is standard. I don't think it's weird to answer with that.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/09/2024 19:39

Only genderists say "my pronouns are she/her!". It's not "standard" at all.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 23/09/2024 19:40

whoamI00 · 23/09/2024 19:09

In reality, you wouldn’t be asked that question in a job interview! If a company did ask it, I’d think twice about the job.

Ds was asked in an interview for a residential assistant in university accommodation. He had shown me the email from the senior RA who was on the interview panel and I warned him to be prepared for the question.

DinaofCloud9 · 23/09/2024 19:45

deargodno · 23/09/2024 18:45

Because I get a lot of emails addressed to "Dear sir," which is both mis-sexing and mis-gendering me. I work in a predominantly male industry. I have actually had women come up to me before and say that it's nice to have another woman in the company. They appreciate knowing, if they're new, that I'm also a woman.

I'm Alex.

I deliberately have my name as Alex not Alexandra on my email signature so noone knows what sex I am. I'm certainly not adding my pronouns.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 23/09/2024 19:48

Everlore · 23/09/2024 18:52

When I went for my first midwife appointment she asked me about my gender identity, I've been asked this before so just answered female as I couldn't be bothered having a long conversation about it. She then asked me if I was assigned female at birth. I said to my husband later that, if I was born male, I'd be a medical marvel since I'm pretty sure trans women can't get pregnant!

I answered this with if I wasn't born female how would I be pregnant? Midwife laughed and said I know it's ridiculous. I feel sorry especially for medical professionals being told to ask these kinds of things

NotAtMyAge · 23/09/2024 19:50

ThatFlightyTemptress · 23/09/2024 17:24

It’s like someone asking you what name you’d prefer to be called by - it’s a courtesy, just to check they are addressing you how you’d prefer. It’s not a test, so don’t be a difficult arsehole - just tell them and move on. You’ll never hear another thing about it.

The problem with that is that no-one ever addresses you directly by third person pronouns - the only ones which change with sex in the singular. Third person pronouns are how someone speaks about you to others and I'm not sure you can compel the speech of others like that.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/09/2024 19:52

NotAtMyAge · 23/09/2024 19:50

The problem with that is that no-one ever addresses you directly by third person pronouns - the only ones which change with sex in the singular. Third person pronouns are how someone speaks about you to others and I'm not sure you can compel the speech of others like that.

Indeed and given that we’ve had a (now former) male CEO of a rape crisis charity insisting they were referred to as she/her, I really have issues with compelled speech if this nature

Worldgonecrazy · 23/09/2024 19:55

I would say xi/Chen then go on a ramble about how you generally don’t mind people not using them because not everyone is up with current thinking. Part of winning at interview is standing out from the crowd.

ElleWoods15 · 23/09/2024 19:56

bathofbeans · 23/09/2024 18:34

Thanks for that, I've been wondering for a while.

It's awkward to pronounce isn't it? Mux Smith. It sound's like McSmith.
I wonder how many teachers are claiming to be non-binary and requesting this?

My DC has teachers are (not ‘claim to be’) non binary, and use Mx. It’s super simple. Primary school kids don’t seem to have an issue pronouncing it.

folofel · 23/09/2024 19:56

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 23/09/2024 19:48

I answered this with if I wasn't born female how would I be pregnant? Midwife laughed and said I know it's ridiculous. I feel sorry especially for medical professionals being told to ask these kinds of things

Pleeeease could a gender-critical pregnant mumsnetter answer 'male' at her next appointment and let us know how it goes down?

DuesToTheDirt · 23/09/2024 20:00

SilenceInside · 23/09/2024 18:43

@deargodno why does it matter if Alex is male or female? How will you treat them differently once you know what sex they are?

People do get treated differently though, don't they, and women always get treated worse.

A female friend recently became a CEO, and men still mansplain to her!

If I were asked my pronouns, I'd be tempted to say, "He/him" in the hope of getting treated better.

Screamingabdabz · 23/09/2024 20:07

deargodno · 23/09/2024 18:45

Because I get a lot of emails addressed to "Dear sir," which is both mis-sexing and mis-gendering me. I work in a predominantly male industry. I have actually had women come up to me before and say that it's nice to have another woman in the company. They appreciate knowing, if they're new, that I'm also a woman.

Did you explode into a thousand pieces when you were misgendered? I doubt it. You probably rolled your eyes and got on with your day. But this ideology that you’re defending actually hurts and endangers women and girls.

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 23/09/2024 20:21

MrsJackRackam · 23/09/2024 17:25

Sex based, like my oppression

Yes

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 23/09/2024 20:23

I'd just say I'm an adult human female.

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 23/09/2024 20:26

ThatFlightyTemptress
It’s like someone asking you what name you’d prefer to be called by - it’s a courtesy, just to check they are addressing you how you’d prefer. It’s not a test, so don’t be a difficult arsehole - just tell them and move on. You’ll never hear another thing about it.

This
You don’t have to get political at a job interview

They are "getting political" by asking you.

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 23/09/2024 20:27

I don't think they ask this at interview

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/09/2024 20:51

Dare you to answer "Gemini", OP.