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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tickle v Giggle decision Friday 23 August

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Wearingmybluejumper · 21/08/2024 07:12

The long awaited decision will apparently be live-streamed at 9 am Friday 23 August (AEST). See screenshot from X below.
I feel suddenly anxious!!

Tickle v Giggle decision Friday 23 August
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TheSandgroper · 23/08/2024 00:36

If I am generous, might it be that a single judge of the Federal Court went as far as his powers allowed him and he was just a step in the process? Might it be that the High Court is needed to make a working alteration to the law?

TheSandgroper · 23/08/2024 00:36

And WTF about CEDAW only applying if a woman might be left worse off? Because God forbid that a woman, somewhere in the world, might be in a good position and want to stay there.

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:38

WeeBisom · 23/08/2024 00:28

He isn’t releasing judgment yet , and it was very confusing to follow , but I think she lost because he has said that gender identity is a protected ground. By banning tickle because he appeared to be male this was indirectly discriminatory to trans people with female identities. The direct discrimination claim failed because giggle didn’t know tickles gender identity and didn’t know tickle was trans. This means if giggle had known tickle was trans and banned him from the app it would be direct discrimination. She didn’t know or care about his identity and just banned him because he was male , which indirectly discriminates against trans males with female gender identities. Note , that on this judgment it seems impossible to ever legitimately exclude anyone on the basis of just sex if they have a “gender identity” which is different from their sex.

Indeed, but as gender identity is undefined in law or anywhere else and unquantifiable the judgement means anyone anytime for any reason can breach any single sex exemptions.

I think we need to start thinking of any ways men benefit from single sex services and start a campaign to breach them.

Paternity leave anyone?
Shed project?
Men's health initiatives?

TheSandgroper · 23/08/2024 00:39

@Rymeswithpunt Mens prize money.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:40

She has to give him €50k!
I still can't believe it...

That is burning me up.

Did he really ask for $200k?

Snowypeaks · 23/08/2024 00:41

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:40

She has to give him €50k!
I still can't believe it...

That is burning me up.

Did he really ask for $200k?

Perhaps if she is appealing, she won't have to yet?

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:42

TheSandgroper · 23/08/2024 00:39

@Rymeswithpunt Mens prize money.

Men's wages.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:42

$10k damages, $50k costs, i should have said.

Appalonia · 23/08/2024 00:42

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:40

She has to give him €50k!
I still can't believe it...

That is burning me up.

Did he really ask for $200k?

It's such a grift.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:42

@Snowypeaks I hope so.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:43

I can only imagine how smug he must be right now.

Bastard.

Snowypeaks · 23/08/2024 00:44

I'm so angry.

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:45

I think a lot of people will get behind her.
This does really show where gender ideology ends up and its not pretty

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:45

I was an hour ago. I'm completely wired now.

Snowypeaks · 23/08/2024 00:45

If they even hear about it... Aussie media has virtually ignored this case so far.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:45

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:45

I was an hour ago. I'm completely wired now.

I was tired

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:46

The Australian Guardian had the nerve to post live updates.

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:47

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:43

I can only imagine how smug he must be right now.

Bastard.

I really could not care less about creepy little pervs like this guy.

Totally indifferent, its about the battle for full humanity and this is bright sunshine on the international stage.

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:48

Snowypeaks · 23/08/2024 00:45

If they even hear about it... Aussie media has virtually ignored this case so far.

Edited

X has quite a reach, and people talk

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:49

The thought of Sall having to hand over money to him is sending me crazy.

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:50

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:46

The Australian Guardian had the nerve to post live updates.

The quardian has been a joke for years now, only still going as its a mouth piece for the intel agencies, no one actually pays out of pocket to read its garbage.
fuckem

JemimaTiggywinkles · 23/08/2024 00:51

In court the judge can only apply the law. The law enables people to change sex. Therefore it is possible to change sex. You can change your sex in law.
The hope can only be that cases like this show that the law needs to be changed.

Sorry to be an arse about it, but I think we really need to resist using the language we’ve been ordered to use. The law categorically does not allow anyone to change sex because such an act is impossible. The law can only go so far as allowing all records pertaining to sex to be changed. If absolutely necessary I will concede that one’s legal sex can be changed. But not the actual sex. I can no more accept one’s actual sex changes than I can accept that the sun revolves around the earth. (Though, tbf, there is more compelling evidence for a geocentric universe than one in which males can become females.)

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:52

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 23/08/2024 00:49

The thought of Sall having to hand over money to him is sending me crazy.

Its bright sunlight on this issue and we will all garden.

Maybe a rich patron will appear? I's sure the harassment JKR suffers might inspire her.

Snowypeaks · 23/08/2024 00:57

Rymeswithpunt · 23/08/2024 00:48

X has quite a reach, and people talk

Trouble is, nothing really lands here in the UK unless it's been on the "proper" news - BBC, C4, Sky, etc - and I worry that it's the same in Australia.

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