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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone know why the thread about the death of the young transman has been deleted

411 replies

Taytoface · 19/08/2024 09:20

Horrific story about death due to surgical complications, was reading it and poof. Anyone know what happened. This is such important information to get out there.

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ChaChaChooey · 19/08/2024 12:55

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 12:38

Why are people on this thread encouraging others to visit a far right troll site responsible for bullying multiple vulnerable people to suicide and shielding a mass murderer? Apart from how reprehensible it is, are you actually under the laughable impression any information shared on there is going to accurate?

The farms archive primary sources.

You do want people to see those primary sources, right? You don’t want this awful tragedy swept under the rug, do you?

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 12:57

Nail on head ChaCha.

NoSnowdrop · 19/08/2024 13:02

Meadowwild · 19/08/2024 09:39

If it is last month I am very concerned that it doesn't show up at the top of any Google search. That suggests suppression of the news. My Google search flags cases in 2021 and 2013 - profoundly tragic cases . But nothing more recent.

You have every reason to be concerned. Google is selective on what info it will return, it’s been politicised/captured.

X is the only place you’ll get the information and where “both sides” are free to post and correct information or not. It’s not a “far right” site.

The surgeons name and image is on there.

RIP poor Griffin. Failed by so many.

AngelinaFibres · 19/08/2024 13:03

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 19/08/2024 09:29

Presumably we’re talking about phalloplasty?
Was the problem with the site the skin was removed from, or where it was grafted to?

A friend had skin grafting after cancer treatment. It really isn’t a trivial process.

If its the article about the Canadian young man/ transwoman who wished to transition from male to female it was horrific . He had puberty blockers as a young boy and his penis didn't develop properly. There wasn't enough flesh to create a surgical vagjna so the surgeon used the wall of the bowel. The wound became horrifically infected and there was so much dead skin it couldn't be removed and redrafted. That person died.

hamstersarse · 19/08/2024 13:15

The surgeon is being openly named and shamed on X.

He deserves it IMO. These are operations done against any semblance of the Hippocratic oath and these people need prosecuting.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/08/2024 13:16

X is the only place you’ll get the information and where “both sides” are free to post and correct information or not. It’s not a “far right” site.

The poster wasn't talking about Twitter/X but another site which documents online happenings and is not for the faint hearted.

Nomdejeur · 19/08/2024 13:22

I saw it on X, what that poor girl went through, surgery after surgery, complication after complication. Surgeons mutilated her and it went on for years. Imagine the same amount of money had been spent of her mental health, helping her accept herself for who she was, giving her support. People who encourage these surgeries have blood on their hands. No surgery in the world will give a man a vagina or a woman a penis.

FrancescaContini · 19/08/2024 13:52

Lovelyview · 19/08/2024 09:34

It's a horrific story. There's a lot about it on Twitter. I was astonished to find out this surgery is going to be offered on the NHS at this clinic https://gendersurgery.chelwest.nhs.uk I don't know if it is already offered elsewhere on the NHS. I'm gobsmacked that anyone thinks this is a good idea.

Oh my God. This is offered by the NHS? I’m gobsmacked, too.

WickedSerious · 19/08/2024 13:57

It's not unusual for the amount of 'corrective surgeries' required to reach double figures.

Waitingfordoggo · 19/08/2024 14:21

Poor Griffin. How awful and how sinister that details are seemingly being wiped from the internet. Not that the details of people’s personal health problems should necessarily be in the public domain, but given that we are constantly being told these surgeries are life-saving, and that trans ideology is very seductive to young ND people, these stories are very much in the public interest.

I sometimes feel like I need to pinch myself to believe that this is really where humanity has landed in the 21st century. It’s like a horror film.

TheKeatingFive · 19/08/2024 14:22

It's been extensively documented on X. Truly horrific stuff.

Sweeping this under the carpet is not acceptable. People need to understand the risks.

OldCrone · 19/08/2024 15:31

Lovelyview · 19/08/2024 09:34

It's a horrific story. There's a lot about it on Twitter. I was astonished to find out this surgery is going to be offered on the NHS at this clinic https://gendersurgery.chelwest.nhs.uk I don't know if it is already offered elsewhere on the NHS. I'm gobsmacked that anyone thinks this is a good idea.

From that link:

Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust has been commissioned to provide masculinising surgery for transmasculine and nonbinary patients.
The Trust is proud to be the first NHS hospital site to perform this life-saving operation.

Life-saving? Completely unnecessary cosmetic surgery to the genitals which has a high rate of failure and complications and sometimes results in the death of the patient is "life-saving"?

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 19/08/2024 15:37

Sold a lie and for what. Absolutely clearly and unmistakeably female in every photo and video. Poor thing.

MsNeis · 19/08/2024 15:49

nauticant · 19/08/2024 09:45

Griffin Sivret

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I found "his" obituary online trough a google search... 😔🙏

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 19/08/2024 15:50

Its awful that these things are happening. I just hope the the report being commissioned into adult gender services will stop this experimentation.

RiP Griffin

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 19/08/2024 16:38

I don’t do tiktok.
Was Griffin documenting medical concerns there? If so, I wouldn’t think it unreasonable to discuss it.

Lovelyview · 19/08/2024 16:44

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 19/08/2024 16:38

I don’t do tiktok.
Was Griffin documenting medical concerns there? If so, I wouldn’t think it unreasonable to discuss it.

I've only seen what Exulansic has posted. It seems Griffin detailed all the horrendous treatment complications while at the same time remaining a staunch advocate of medicalised treatment for gender incongruence.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 19/08/2024 16:52

Google the name and nothing comes up except a very quiet obituary thread and lots of twitter references- oh and 🥝 farms.

PronounssheRa · 19/08/2024 16:56

OldCrone · 19/08/2024 15:31

From that link:

Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Foundation Trust has been commissioned to provide masculinising surgery for transmasculine and nonbinary patients.
The Trust is proud to be the first NHS hospital site to perform this life-saving operation.

Life-saving? Completely unnecessary cosmetic surgery to the genitals which has a high rate of failure and complications and sometimes results in the death of the patient is "life-saving"?

And the twee way they describe what is brutal and often fairly unsuccessful surgery

masculinising lower surgery, masculinising top surgery and lower feminising surgery

misscockerspaniel · 19/08/2024 17:05

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 12:38

Why are people on this thread encouraging others to visit a far right troll site responsible for bullying multiple vulnerable people to suicide and shielding a mass murderer? Apart from how reprehensible it is, are you actually under the laughable impression any information shared on there is going to accurate?

What are your thoughts on the matter in question, the tragic death of this poor person?

Bodeganights · 19/08/2024 17:12

FreedomDogs · 19/08/2024 12:38

Why are people on this thread encouraging others to visit a far right troll site responsible for bullying multiple vulnerable people to suicide and shielding a mass murderer? Apart from how reprehensible it is, are you actually under the laughable impression any information shared on there is going to accurate?

Far right?

They just document and archive what other people post?
How in the hell is that far right? Unless every single person they archive and document is far right? But that doesnt seem to be the case.

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 17:31

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 19/08/2024 16:38

I don’t do tiktok.
Was Griffin documenting medical concerns there? If so, I wouldn’t think it unreasonable to discuss it.

Yes, Griffin posted on TikTok and it is still currently up. vm.tiktok.com/ZGenXBCoW/

timenowplease · 19/08/2024 17:48

RainWithSunnySpells · 19/08/2024 17:31

Yes, Griffin posted on TikTok and it is still currently up. vm.tiktok.com/ZGenXBCoW/

Griffin's giving terfs who are warning about the dangers of the surgery the middle finger in that clip.

I hope the family sue.

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 19/08/2024 17:49

Lovelyview · 19/08/2024 16:44

I've only seen what Exulansic has posted. It seems Griffin detailed all the horrendous treatment complications while at the same time remaining a staunch advocate of medicalised treatment for gender incongruence.

I imagine the horror of peeking behind that curtain and wondering if it was all for nothing would be almost unimaginable. To go through all that and let yourself realise that 99% of people will never ever think you're a man, ouch.