Israel society debates the right to rape

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People are accusing Israel of being a right to rape state.

Do people here think this is an issue for feminists?

A bit of context;

www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/9/everything-is-legitimate-israeli-leaders-defend-soldiers-accused-of-rape

https://wrap.substack.com/p/israel-debates-the-right-to-rape

“Euro Med” is a hamas mouthpiece. It’s not accurate- just propaganda from a terrorist group. Even the actual story is a non story.

There is rape in every society. But sadly women in Gaza are at much more risk from their fellow gazans of sexual violence than Israelis. The rulers of Gaza (hamas) are extremist misogynist violent criminals- there is no recourse to such a group for any sexual violence for women. Women in Gaza simply don’t have protection against sex crimes or recourse to justice if they happen. Sadly this is common in many parts of the world- the entire Middle East except Israel.

Dont be so childish. Because it is based there doesn't mean its a mouthpiece.

They have just broadcast an in depth and very moving series of interviews with Jewish survivors of the Holocaust.

You sound like a willing victim of mis information which you have chosen to believe instead of informing yourself.

And / or you dont listen to any news, as this story has been on most mainstream channels in the UK.

No doubt as part of your conspiracy theory you think the BBC, ITV and C4 are just subserviant outlets of Al Jazeera.

Sadly this is common in many parts of the world- the entire Middle East except Israel

Women in senior government positions are leaving their roles, the number of victims of domestic violence is rising, and the prevailing spirit from the government does not bode well regarding the advancement of women to key public positions. A substantial change in prioritizing gender issues is urgently needed. Now more than ever, there must be a call for immediate and fundamental change in placing women's rights at the top of the national agenda.

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/54250

No doubt as part of your conspiracy theory you will also claim that the Israel Democracy Institute has also been infiltrated

Violence Against Women

As of May 2024, 12 women have already been murdered in 2024 due to domestic violence - a staggering statistic made more alarming by being higher than the number of women killed in the same period last year (data from the organization "Tizkur – Her Memorial"). Despite this, the National Security Ministry announced it would halt funding for the Michal Sela Forum, which provides protection methods for women under threat of domestic violence who remain in their homes rather than shelters. An estimated 200,000 women in Israel are subjected to domestic violence, a number feared to only rise after the war based on patterns seen during previous Israeli crises (wars and the COVID pandemic) and the recurring trend seen in wars in other countries worldwide (including the Russia-Ukraine war). Contrarily, there is no visible increase in budget allocations for this issue or planning for additional protection mechanisms for women who will face domestic violence post-war. The planned 3% cut to the Welfare Ministry budget and 5% cut to support budgets do nothing to aid this effort.

Additionally, the massive push to proliferate civilian firearm ownership threatens women's safety, as data shows that increased availability of firearms correlates with increased violence against women, a concern also voiced by Welfare Minister Yaakov Margi over his ministry's lack of involvement in the vetting process to identify domestic violence risks.

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/54250

Creating rape culture is very much a feminist issue.

Absolutely vile

This is not balanced reporting but sadly notoriously antisemitic mouthpieces that you are all swallowing

Beyond horrifying, but sadly, not at all surprising.

Oh please. It's well established that Israel practices torture.
Is Amnesty International anti-Semitic too, along with hundreds of other sources?
Facts that don't please you are still facts.

If this was the only source you might possibly have a point. It isn't.

There is no rape in Israel and no torture? Great! I will depart at once for this paradise on earth.

Oops, wait a minute. I guess not.

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

I think the news exhibits a greater horror when a man's rape is reported. Is this misogyny or homophobia or just because sexual assault on women is so commonplace I wonder.

This.

I think it is a bit of both tbh.

The Israeli doctor whistleblower and the Times of Israel media that published are “antisemitic”? Pull the other one.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/doctor-who-reported-abuse-of-palestinian-detainee-i-blamed-fellow-prisoners/

And the USA!

“Euro Med” is a hamas mouthpiece. It’s not accurate- just propaganda from a terrorist group. Even the actual story is a non story.

Euro-Med has no links to Hamas.

I can't understand how Israeli television can screen a debate about the right to rape the enemy during war. How is it even a question? Of course it should not be encouraged, legalised and praised. Surely people who are capable of such behaviour should not be roaming around freely, in their own society and abroad. I don't think their behaviour would stop at one incident. I can't understand what is happening here at all. It seems medieval.

It's interesting how the war has changed the government's stance. Earlier this year the government were calling claims of the sexual abuse of female Palestinians as “despicable and unfounded". Now members of the cabinet are saying sexual abuse is justified.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says

I think this may be true. Rape is always brutal, but I think if there is additional violence it also draws attention. There was a terrible story of a woman raped in India, which involved so much sadistic violence that it did gain attention. Yet I think many other women have also been raped there, as elsewhere. In the case of the Palestinian protestor there seems to have been extreme physical damage inflicted. However, I don't think that is what drew attention as much as the protests in support of the soldiers involved and the debate on TV as to whether it's a good thing to do.

Yes,
The Palestinian detainee was raped so violently, that the object inserted in his rectum reached as far as to damage a lung. Quite literally impaled. The Israeli doctor said this was worst case of sexual abuse he had seen and he felt he had to report it. He “said he has been criticized for both whistleblowing and for treating suspected terrorists”

“Doctor Yoel Donchin confirmed a report from medical sources that the detainee had presented at the field hospital with broken ribs and signs of physical abuse on multiple bones. He also confirmed that something round had been inserted deep into the detainee’s rectum, causing a tear in the lower bowel and damage to one of the lungs that required emergency surgery.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/doctor-who-reported-abuse-of-palestinian-detainee-i-blamed-fellow-prisoners/

@LoremIpsumCici Yes, I knew it was horrific. Individuals who can do such a thing are really dangerous and a threat to society.

I should add to previous post that it should read 'Palestinian prisoner' not 'Palestinian protestor.'

This. Always check source material.

Al Jazeera is a Qatari funded mouthpiece for the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas too.

Well since in this case, they are only republishing the story that the Times of Israel investigated and published, then we can be sure it’s not Hamas propaganda or antisemtic rubbish.