Olympic Boxer names J K Rowling in lawsuit for cyberbullying

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https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jk-rowling-elon-musk-imane-khelif-lawsuit-1236105185/

J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk have both been named in a criminal complaint filed to French authorities over alleged “acts of aggravated cyber harassment” against Algerian boxer and newl crowned Olympic champion Imane Khelif.

Nabil Boudi, the Paris-based attorney of Khelif, confirmed to Variety that both figures were mentioned in the body of the complaint, posted to the anti-online hatred center of the Paris public prosecutor’s office on Friday.

The lawsuit was filed against X, which under French law means that it was filed against unknown persons. That “ensure[s] that the ‘prosecution has all the latitude to be able to investigate against all people,” including those who may have written hateful messages under pseudonyms, said Boudi. The complaint nevertheless mentions famously controversial figures

Since Khelif has been raised as female , believed themselves to be female , and since I suspect that discovering otherwise can be very difficult to handle, in most cases I would be happy to. Refer to them as she,

I'd expect them to continue use female facilities, I would welcome them on a course aimed at say improving women's opportunities in the workplace

The only place the sex is relevant here is in the boxing ring

50% of males with 5ARD decide at puberty to adopt a "male presentation". For all we know Khelif is one of them - it's a coin toss either way. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Genuine question. Why would you think it's okay for a man to take a female prize?

As if J K Rowling, Elon Musk etc., give a fourpenny one about Imane Khelif's lawsuit. Talk about overstating your own importance. I hope Khelif's pockets are deep. He's going to be paying for this for decades. Oh, and by the way, dear, the French police won't be investigating anything.

Khelif and Lin both already do "present" as men if their own social media is anything to go by. And Khelif is certainly not treated as a woman in the same way as most actual women in Algeria are. You might want to have a think about that and why that may be.

So please just stop with the gaslighting. Those who insist on trying to compel others to deny reality and fail to notice that they are literally supporting men beating up women for "sport" and clearly do not give a one damn for the women or their safety or basic fairness - do you honestly, really think you're being progressive in some way? What "values" do you imagine you're displaying here? Do you even understand the arguments the women here are making, or is it more disingenuous rubbish about how "all feminists supposedly want women to be feminine" despite that being an obviously ludicrous argument?

Why would you? Do you actually have evidence of any of those things?

Stop trying to manipulate women.
"Khelif’s Trainer Confirms “Problem With Chromosomes” As Spanish National Boxing Team Commissioner Reveals That Khelif Was Considered Too Dangerous To Train Against Women"
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Yeah!!! Having a coach pat you where a breast would be is a great indicator that the coaching team do not think that Khelif is female. At all.

I think this needs to be said over and over.

Are they just 'named' or is the legal action against them?

I don't believe in being courteous to cheats and to men who punch women in the face.

That doesn't make me a "cunt" , thanks. People who trip over themselves to enable it and fingerwag those who are trying to call it out... well, I know what I and many others think of them, and it's certainly not admiration for their integrity.

If you are coming on here to lecture us on why we need to use this supposedly "poor vulnerable" person's pronouns because reasons involving if we don't we're "cunts", then yes, you re very much are saying "be kind." While using abusive and misogynistic language to anyone who says no. The answer's still no, I'm afraid. And I could do without the tone policing.

They're 'named'.

I don't pretend to know much about French law, but my understanding is that naming them doesn't mean much. It would be up to French prosecution services to decide who to investigate, if they bother at all.

But of course, naming JKR and Musk is all about the PR and the engagement farming.

Named as an example, it's not personally against them - that just makes more flashy news

Why do I have to override the evidence of my eyes and ears (and the gender tests 🫠) in order to not be 'a cunt'?

For the vast majority of my adult life, pronouns unambiguously referred to sex. When did that change and where was the consultation? You move the goalposts and suddenly I'm 'a cunt'? You can fuck right off with that one

This makes sense because no way will Khelif make his sexual identity the subject of his claims

I don't need any more evidence than the fact that this person is clearly DSD

Because this is a real person
And because I have seen how sports people manipulated other DSD people in the past I have oodles of sympathy for their situation

Still don't think they belong in the female boxing ring but I can still have sympathy for their situation as well as everyone else's

You'd think that someone would notice whether the "penis" included a urethra, or whether the urethra was separate. All right, I think there are ambiguous cases, but surely to goodness some further medical investigation could be carried out if the configuration was neither the typical male nor the typical female one. I've changed enough nappies to spot something out of the ordinary.

I'm sure that it's not always obvious that a boy with a DSD is a boy, but surely no midwife or doctor believes that the only difference is the length!

@RapidOnsetGenderCritic to explain that question - hypospadias (urethra under the penis) is fairly common in 5ARD

They'll always be people willing to cheat, weither it's drugs, or men posing as women.
The IOC need to watch out for ALL sorts of cheating.

*Since Khelif has been raised as female , believed themselves to be female , and since I suspect that discovering otherwise can be very difficult to handle, in most cases I would be happy to. Refer to them as she,

I'd expect them to continue use female facilities, I would welcome them on a course aimed at say improving women's opportunities in the workplace*

Have a look at Khelif's social media. I wouldn't say your assumptions are necessarily correct, or your expectation of eg which facilities to use, appropriate.

It's the inflammatory language that makes discussion about this topic very frustrating.

Cheat and he are the only “inflammatory” labels being assigned here.

If this was a woman who had cheated a man out of something and this was a male dominated forum like Reddit or 4chan then cheat and she would not be as mild as it got.

Being gender critical is protected by law in the UK and it’s not inflammatory to voice those opinions.

It’s natural to jump to certain conclusions based on available facts. It is a fact that the IBA gender tested the 2 athletes twice (different labs in neutral countries) and they were found with XY in their genes making them ineligible for competing in the Women’s World Boxing Championships. Neither asked to be retested or appealed because they presumably accept those findings.

Having XY and XX athletes boxing against each other is highly dangerous because of the physical advantages that male puberty gives. People are right to be angry about this and want to act before a woman gets seriously hurt.

The real issue here is that the IOC should have testing for who can participate in female sports. It's very simple and easy. Screening for XY and then further tests to determine which DSD an athlete may have and if it gives them unfair advantage. I feel sorry for athletes who are being personally attacked and it shouldn't boil down to analysing individual athletes. The IOC have caused this mess.

It's really quite eye-opening how so many people seem to think the worst thing about this issue is calling Khelif a man.

Not only does all the evidence overwhelmingly point to the fact that he is, and we should not be teaching a generation of children that it's rude to identify men as men, but it's sooo much less important than him getting into a ring and beating up a woman, that it just stinks of misogyny.

If Khelif was not a man, none of this would be happening!!

But shush, you women. Lest you be considered rude.

Fucking rude!

Some day someone will successfully sue the IOC for lack of care because a gender test would have protected them from rumours that they were not female.
There are people online who claim that the IBA testing process was flawed even though it was conducted in 2 different, neutral countries.

I don’t know enough about boxing to know if the IOC and IBA disagreeing is a problem for the sport but they should agree on a policy to protect the athletes and the sport because women’s boxing has suffered a blow to its reputation thanks to gender politics and that’s a dangerous road to go down as it’s womens sport that will lose out.

It is absolutely mental 🤯

Although we know this "isn't a trans case," we see the same issue with calling a man a man being the worst thing ever