Thread 3: TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”

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Contrast it with Kellie's dance when she won.

Would any Muslim woman sit astride the neck of a man like Khelif did on his coach’s shoulders?

Would any Muslim woman sit astride the neck of a man like Khelif did on his coach’s shoulders?

I obviously can't speak for every person or culture in the region but from living in the Gulf, my experience is that men are very tactile with each other and definitely not at all tactile with unrelated women.

I've noticed that with previous bouts - the post match congratulations by the male ringside team are more tactile than I'd expect.

Funnily enough, I was just writing this out, NotBad:

Would an Algerian woman really be OK to be hoisted onto a man's shoulders, legs wrapped round his neck in a very intimate pose, to be paraded round in victory? Hmm.

Exactly!

Yes, they all know, don't they?

puffyisgood · Today 22:14

the best man won, I guess.

the best man won, I guess

As for bravery, it's only his opponents who have shown any. It's like sticking Mike Tyson in with a 15 year old and praising him for bravely beating a boy up.

Having lived in the Middle East, and acknowledging, like a PP, that obviously I can't speak for every single woman in the region, I would say absolutely not.

'President Thomas Bach said earlier on Friday the organisation "does not like the uncertainty" but suggested there is not a "scientifically solid system" to "identify men and women".
Many of the pair's opponents and coaching teams have been unhappy with their involvement, however, indicating a level of discontent behind the scenes.
Carini said it "was not right" immediately after her loss to Khelif, although she later apologised for how she handled the moments after the fight. Her coach said he had advised her not to fight, saying people had told her not to "fight a man".
Before the next round, opponent Anna Luca Hamori from Hungary said: "I don't think it is fair", while the Hungarian Boxing Association protested about Khelif's inclusion. After the fight Hamori wished Khelif good luck.
Neither her semi-final opponent, Janjaem Suwannapheng, nor the Thailand's boxer team made any direct comment on the controversy, though Suwannapheng said after the fight: "She is a woman but very strong."
Two of Lin's opponents, meanwhile, have made 'X' gestures - said to be intended to represent female chromosomes - in the ring after defeat.
Svetlana Kamenova Staneva left the arena saying "no, no, no" and made the 'X' sign.
Before the fight, the Bulgarian had said it was "not good for boxing", while her boxing federation said they "strongly" opposed Lin and Khelif’s participation in Paris 2024.
After Lin's semi-final victory over Esra Yildiz Kahraman, the Turkish fighter also made the 'X' sign in the centre of the ring.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/c3ej8wqw0jjo

Yuk, wrapping his sweaty bollocks ... oh actually he probably didn't sweat at all.

I've archived that in case it goes. BBC presents a pretty good account of the other boxers' protests.

What a surprise 🤨

Is China likely to contest this?

'President Thomas Bach said earlier on Friday the organisation "does not like the uncertainty" but suggested there is not a "scientifically solid system" to "identify men and women".

If Thomas Bach needs to have it explained to him in German (heck, in proper Lower Frankonian even) from a biologist, I'm available. Utterly fucking shameful.

I would imagine that countries might be carefully considering whether they want to protest this... or do it themselves in the future.

The IOC has just stated clearly that they can't tell the difference between men and women, and indeed there is no earthly way to do so.

All Olympic sports are therefore mixed sex.

I think, as with the years of doping, countries are far more likely to gone the system and include males in their teams / events whenever they can get away with it. The IOC is disgusting and utterly corrupt but so are states when it comes to national prestige.

Thank you brave and wondeful Yang Liu.
https://g.co/kgs/UeyvCa9.

I have no idea if she will ever see the support through google and clicking on the flowers that come up when you google her name... but let's do it anyway.

Let's say Yang Liu's name more often!!

You have inadvertently caused my brain to think in rhyming couplets Sinner!

So now XY has won the gold,
for being oh so brave and bold.
This isn't sport that's fair and true,
just the IOC and their big "fuck you".

Pfffft, what a fucking farce this has been.

Anyone notice BBC News didn’t show any footage of the bout?

I would love a conversation with that shitty commentator, I understand that he had limitations to his speech but he seemed to be loving not only Khelif who is actually a shit boxer but wanting the woman to be punched. Vile excuse of a human being

Does anyone speak Chinese? I'm really curious how this is being talked about on Chinese social media/ traditional media

ArabellaScott · Today 22:20

BBC viewers are not as supportive as commentators.

I've looked at the article, but can't see any comments. What am I doing wrong?

Anyone know the name of the two commentators?

@SinnerBoy It's the downvotes