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Thread 3: TWO “Female Boxers” Set To Compete At Paris 2024 Were Previously Disqualified From Women’s World Championship For Having “XY Chromosomes”

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/08/2024 11:25

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Vespanest · 09/08/2024 19:52

Disheartening from the human rights watch

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821912894826549684?s=46

x.com

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821912894826549684?s=46

duc748 · 09/08/2024 19:55

Some humans obviously more equal than others. What a bunch of shits.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 19:55

Men's rights watch.

OldCrone · 09/08/2024 19:59

Vespanest · 09/08/2024 19:52

Disheartening from the human rights watch

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821912894826549684?s=46

"The outpouring of vitriol against Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif in the Paris Olympics boxing competition shows the immense harms “sex testing” policies cause. The International Olympic Committee is right to stand against sex testing."

Surely what is happening in Paris shows the immense harm not having sex testing causes.

Assuming you think harm to women counts as actual harm, that is.

TheKeatingFive · 09/08/2024 19:59

Vespanest · 09/08/2024 19:52

Disheartening from the human rights watch

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821912894826549684?s=46

Gross 😡

SinnerBoy · 09/08/2024 20:00

Vespanest · Today 19:52

Disheartening from the human rights watch

I left them a polite note, to let them know that their heads are up their arses.

DuesToTheDirt · 09/08/2024 20:05

"The outpouring of vitriol against Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif in the Paris Olympics boxing competition shows the immense harms “sex testing” policies cause. The International Olympic Committee is right to stand against sex testing."

Just how stupid do you have to be to write something like this?

TheKeatingFive · 09/08/2024 20:06

DuesToTheDirt · 09/08/2024 20:05

"The outpouring of vitriol against Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif in the Paris Olympics boxing competition shows the immense harms “sex testing” policies cause. The International Olympic Committee is right to stand against sex testing."

Just how stupid do you have to be to write something like this?

But men beating women is absolutely fine 😡

SinnerBoy · 09/08/2024 20:09

I hear it as Rik, the People's Poet speaking.

zibzibara · 09/08/2024 20:10

Vespanest · 09/08/2024 19:52

Disheartening from the human rights watch

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821912894826549684?s=46

I'm glad to see so many commenters in the replies and quote tweets setting them straight on this ridiculous and illogical assertion.

MarieDeGournay · 09/08/2024 20:11

DuesToTheDirt · 09/08/2024 20:05

"The outpouring of vitriol against Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif in the Paris Olympics boxing competition shows the immense harms “sex testing” policies cause. The International Olympic Committee is right to stand against sex testing."

Just how stupid do you have to be to write something like this?

Not just stupid, but totally lacking in any sense of responsibility or objectivity or diplomacy or register/tone appropriate to a serious international organisation..
Who thought that was a suitable statement from HRW? Have they no self-respect?

Vespanest · 09/08/2024 20:19

they did double down

Online attacks and speculation about women athletes’ bodies have fueled sex testing regulations for decades.

These so-called “sex tests” are unscientific, degrading, and abusive — and women of color are especially impacted. #ParisOlympics

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821982171906588880?s=46

x.com

https://x.com/hrw/status/1821982171906588880?s=46

Maerchentante · 09/08/2024 20:31

Are they on glue? There are people who actually pay money to do a cheek swab to companies like 23andme, yet HRW and the IOC declare it "unscientific and intrusive".

WickedSerious · 09/08/2024 20:36

OldCrone · 09/08/2024 19:59

"The outpouring of vitriol against Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif in the Paris Olympics boxing competition shows the immense harms “sex testing” policies cause. The International Olympic Committee is right to stand against sex testing."

Surely what is happening in Paris shows the immense harm not having sex testing causes.

Assuming you think harm to women counts as actual harm, that is.

They can kiss my whip.

SinnerBoy · 09/08/2024 20:44

Vespanest · Today 20:19

These so-called “sex tests” are unscientific, degrading, and abusive....

Oh heaveeee, man! Like wow, you know that scientific tests are, like, you know, todally unscientific and everything! And cheek swabs, they're like, worse than having to strip off on the pitch at like Wembley Stadium! Fascists!

Kucinghitam · 09/08/2024 20:45

Definitely high on their own Righteous farts.

BeyondOlympicLevelProcrastinator · 09/08/2024 20:49

I've noticed that a lot of Right On Lefty Dudes seem to think sex testing involves genital exams - like they read the history of sex testing, but stopped reading at Hitlers sexual assaults 🤔

TheKeatingFive · 09/08/2024 20:55

BeyondOlympicLevelProcrastinator · 09/08/2024 20:49

I've noticed that a lot of Right On Lefty Dudes seem to think sex testing involves genital exams - like they read the history of sex testing, but stopped reading at Hitlers sexual assaults 🤔

I'm realising that there is no bigger misogynist than a right on lefty dude. At least the right wing men are honest about their attitude to women.

ChateauMargaux · 09/08/2024 20:57

Insanity!!! At least the replies are consistent. Is there no one at Human Rights Watch who think women are not small men?

As for Bach and his 'unreliable sex testing'... he should ask for a show of hands around the International Federations.... all those who have male puberty and male level testosterone levels as excluding factors from the female category to stand on one side and leave the Olympics ... those that don't can stay... how would the Olympics look without athletics, cycling and swimming?

DuesToTheDirt · 09/08/2024 21:04

"small men", yes, you have to laugh really. Or "men with low testosterone" = "women".

Once you stop laughing though, it's bloody offensive.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 09/08/2024 21:04

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 19:43

Heartening from the Japanese men's relay team:

https://x.com/antoniafrances/status/1821968313062453524

Link doesn't work for me.

This one made me.well up: https://x.com/WRNAfghanistan/status/1821884554132492495?

BeyondOlympicLevelProcrastinator · 09/08/2024 21:05

I want somebody to ask Bach if he wants the other IFs to lose their right to monitor their own sports as IBA have - so the IOC can open up passport-sex for all events

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 09/08/2024 21:05

I'm realising that there is no bigger misogynist than a right on lefty dude. At least the right wing men are honest about their attitude to women.

I used to read and occassionally post on what was then a very active, UK-based left wing forum. The level of toxicity and unpleasantness from mainly the blokes was off the charts. Makes reddit seem like a warm fluffy hug by comparison.

greenmeasuringtape · 09/08/2024 21:09

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 09/08/2024 19:29

I disagree @greenmeasuringtape

Moving videos, people currently competing, so be it. I agree it seems likely there are a lot of others competing in the wrong category.

Putting up ID photos for discussion really is meaningless. I could be mistaken for male from my passport photo, which really wouldn’t happen any other way.

Fair enough

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