DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 19:23
Can you please name all 72 or reference it and stop swearing at me please
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MissScarletInTheBallroom ·
02/08/2024 19:20
You can be whatever gender you want, Diana, because gender is completely made up. That's why there were 72 of them at last count. God knows how many there are now. Hundreds, probably.
Why does anyone care?
Fuck knows.
Why is it relevant to anything?
It's not.
You might as well have toilets and prisons and sporting categories organised by star sign. That would be just as meaningful and more objectively verifiable.
Quoting AccidentallyWesAnderson
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 19:18
Some people are gender variant
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AccidentallyWesAnderson ·
02/08/2024 19:11
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 19:10
Fair enough. It’s my lack of patience or hope I can reason with them.
I also don’t think a gender truth is an ideology.
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AccidentallyWesAnderson ·
02/08/2024 19:04
No one has to tolerate an ideology that’s potentially harmful to women and girls. All the evidence as to why many people find this potentially harmful has been laid out very clearly. You just retort with ‘bigot’! That really is your only argument and you’re not going to get far, or taken seriously, with something as amateur as that. It’s just so boring now.
Quoting BackToLurk
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 19:00
I never had an argument other than tolerance which is in short supply on here
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BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:59
Stop, stop. Your argument is already dead
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 18:57
You are the anti TRA I just have been responding to hate from your pals
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BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:56
Sure. TBH I think your only hope now is if MN deletes all your posts
Quoting BackToLurk
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 18:54
Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:53
Yes, because I can see you. Obviously.
This is clearly some kind of shit stirring game to you. Come in. Derail a thread. Accuse anyone who challenges anything you say of being a bigot. Well done. It's always a pleasure when TRAs reveal the paucity of their arguments.
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 18:45
It really is pcos you were just being insulting
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BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:35
It's quite rude to hurl out accusations of hateful bigotry without being able to provide any evidence
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 18:30
Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:26
Did you want to check your 5 o'clock shadow?
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 18:25
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BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:24
Did you mean anyone in particular? Do you have any examples of his 'hateful bigotry' or is like all your other 'evidence'? Imaginary
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Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:09
In what way twisted? You haven't really expanded on that
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 18:08
All out of context and childishly twisted so you are silly. All those points are relevant to various albeit narrow aspects of a bigger picture.
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BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 18:05
Illuminating. I wonder whether you think these responses look like the posts of someone with a solid argument.
You brought up male impotence. You brought up malicious rape allegations. I'm not sure the person revealing your inability to expand on these 'contributions' is the silly one.
Quoting BackToLurk
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 17:58
Silly question silly person
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BackToLurk ·
02/08/2024 17:52
Talking of ignoring posts, still awaiting the reasoning behind why some impotent males are OK in the ladies & some aren't, along with those references.
Thanks
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 17:50
In several posts you must have ignored and that mantra of your type is what is boring
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Zita60 ·
02/08/2024 17:36
Well, I'm terribly sorry that my desire for women's rights and safety is boring you. You still haven't provided any examples of what JKR has said that I can find.
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DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 14:24
See other answers you’re boring me
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Zita60 ·
02/08/2024 14:21
So if everything she posts is hateful, you’ll have no trouble finding just one thing she has said that is hateful and explaining to us why it’s hateful.
Quoting MissScarletInTheBallroom
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 14:09
Oh really, everything she says on her pet subject has a dog whistle or actual misgendering insult. She sponsored legal action to remove any legal value of transitioning, the ultimate goal of many trans women in the world is to get a grc. The added hatred makes her look a nutter to right minded people.
The FWS action in the Supreme Court could make a legal female with a grc and an anatomical female body and an endocrinological female system back into a male in law.
that is born of hatred
that is what her millions are trying to influence
that is the epitome of anti transgender
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MissScarletInTheBallroom ·
02/08/2024 14:01
I will be satisfied with someone linking to an actual example of her being transphobic and explaining why it is actually transphobic.
I must have asked hundreds of people to do this and not one has ever provided an example. Not one.
Quoting MissScarletInTheBallroom
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 14:00
You will never be satisfied with anything that makes your prejudiced leader look bad.
Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
MissScarletInTheBallroom ·
02/08/2024 13:58
Well then can you link to an example of her picking on all trans people rather than one of her basically telling India Willoughby to stuff it in response to abuse from India Willoughby?
Quoting MissScarletInTheBallroom
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 13:53
No debate she isn’t me and I W can answer for herself and she doesn’t represent all trans women or anyone but herself, JK is not picking on her but all trans people.
many trans men were mums believe it or not
Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
MissScarletInTheBallroom ·
02/08/2024 13:37
That's not anti trans, that's anti India Willoughby.
India Willoughby was a well known male journalist until late middle age before deciding to transition. India Willoughby has fathered three children. India Willoughby now appears to be spending retirement permanently online being aggressive and abusive towards women, JK Rowling first and foremost. Pink News has even quoted some of the abusive things India Willoughby has said to and about JK Rowling in the article you linked to, all of which were far more unacceptable than calling a male person a male (fact) fantasist (opinion).
India Willoughby also made a big song and dance on Twitter about rejecting a gender neutral toilet in an airport and going in search of a female only one to use, thus rather undermining the "we just want to pee" argument and demonstrating that if we build it (it being additional spaces for trans people), they will not come. Because the whole point is being in women's spaces, whether women are OK with that or not.
It's not transphobic to call a male person male. It's factual. And it's not abusive to hit back at someone who has been relentlessly harassing you on Twitter for literally years. It's a very understandable human reaction.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, no, JK Rowling doesn't believe trans women are women. Neither do I. Neither do the majority of people. It is not transphobic to not believe trans women are women, any more than it is Islamophobic to not worship Allah.
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Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
MissScarletInTheBallroom ·
02/08/2024 13:15
That's not an example, is it?
Can you give one please? Just one will do.
Quoting MissScarletInTheBallroom
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 13:10
Read her X it’s disgusting
Quoting DianaAntoniaJasmine
MissScarletInTheBallroom ·
02/08/2024 12:34
Can you give some specific examples please?
Quoting AlbertaWildRose
DianaAntoniaJasmine ·
02/08/2024 12:25
Lies. JKR has been deeply abusive and transphobic towards many individuals and against trans people especially trans women generally
Quoting cariadlet
AlbertaWildRose ·
02/08/2024 12:11
Thank you! I will definitely show this to him.
cariadlet ·
02/08/2024 02:57
Found it! If you want your son to listen to you and to engage in debate then it's really important to be open and non-judgemental (no matter how awful his ideas are) and to encourage him to engage in critical thinking.