Women's rights general conversations - Thread 9

[Kucinghitam]

Continuation of Thread 8.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

The YouTube pixies blessed me with this

It's a ten minute clip from a talk given by Doc Stock at the university of Austin. I think it was given about a year ago. I don't recall if there was a MN thread about it. There's a link to the whole talk in the description. It's late otherwise I'd be tempted to watch her now.

Just drawing attention to this:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5159395-employment-tribunal-case-to-protect-single-sex-facilities-at-work?page=2&reply=138160556

When a man enters a women's sport, he often sets new records that can never be beaten. Unless ....

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Sigh...

In slightly better sports news, the England cricket team is boycotting Afghanistan until there's an Afghanistan women's team.

Not quite holding out for full human rights, but it's something.

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Oh that's something. I guess that sort of equates to human rights given that Afghani women are all effectively under house arrest now.

Why isn't every civilised country boycotting Afghanistan for everything? What they're doing to women is unspeakable.

Also, anyone else as irritated as I am by the current "Come to Saudi Arabia on holiday!" campaign showing unveiled women wandering alone around touristy places? If I thought for a minute that Saudi women would be allowed to do that, I might feel very slightly differently. And as for Iran...

Very much so on the whitewashing of Saudi. Bloody snooker tournament there too. Although it didn't seem to have been a massive success from what I gather, I'm not sorry to learn. I guess the Saudis think if they chuck enough petro-dollars around, they can have anything, And they're not far wrong.

The Saudis are chucking money at art, sports, films, just about everything of any sort of cultural significance you can think of and very few people are saying no to that money. Johnny Depp was having - no idea if it's still continuing - a full on bromance with MBS, has spent time in Saudi, gone to their film festival and his recent/comeback film Jeanne Du Barry was at least partially funded by another Saudi prince.

To be fair to the man, which I'm not particularly inclined to be, but ... he's far from alone in taking money from the Saudis and turning a blind eye to their appalling human rights record.

This is horrific and desperately sad in several ways Not new, but important

The midwives who stopped murdering girls and started saving them

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvge858dvl5o

It's a horrendous practice but at least the midwives found the courage to stop.

So impressed by the Afghan womens bravery meeting in Albania.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism/5163619-afghan-women-meet-in-albania-in-act-of-defiance-against-taliban-crackdown

That’s both inspiring and moving. Incredible determination. Hadn’t seen that, @RaspberryParade so thanks.

@Winterborne74 Isnt it inspiring.
Would you mind terribly bumping the thread?
Maybe I shouldnt have put it in general fem chat but I really want people to see it.
We need to keep our eyes on them in my opinion.

Would you mind terribly bumping the thread?

Done.

We need to keep our eyes on them in my opinion

Absolutely.

You're not wrong about the Saudi "we're so cuddly and cool" tourism push @SqueakyDinosaur - completely sticks in my craw when we all know what it's really like for Saudi women.

Trigger warning re. headline in article, etc., it's a fairly damning indictment of the Edinburgh women's shelter run by a male.

https://archive.ph/eJuei

Archive ph sites don't seem to be working for me. I've tried a few over the past couple of days and they all freeze before opening anything. What's the article?

It’s this one, presumably archived because of the very un BBC like implication of “women only spaces”.

Rape crisis centre failed to protect women-only spaces - report

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynyky7kj9o

I'd seen that earlier, and wondered why it'd be archived, and assumed it was in case the story was edited.

I see that the Beeb falsely refers to Wadwha as she and her and fails to mention that he never should have been in the job, under the SSE rule, never mind the fact that he has zero professional qualification relevant to counselling.

Wadhwa has quit. Finally.

Good, about time too.

The Righteous will be representing this as Evil Witches Committing Literal Violence Against The Most Oppressed.