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The Bluestocking is reopening

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ErrolTheDragon · 26/07/2024 09:44

It's time we reopened the Bluestocking, I think.

This is the FWR pub, situated in the charming village of Badley Fuckitt near the Shady Pines rest home. It has a cannon (for reasons lost in the mists of time), goats in the paddock next to the beer garden and a menu including many soups and cakes. It's open all hours, serving breakfast and tea to all weary women, in addition to being the ideal location to metaphorically drown your sorrows.

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Naice coffee ...

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ErrolTheDragon · 05/08/2024 09:30

NoBinturongsHereMate · 05/08/2024 09:03

Best plan, I think. Responding will only stir them up.

I've never tried brown sauce. I keep meaning to pick up a little sachet from somewhere to give it a go, but I'm not really sure what I'd eat it with.

I don't dislike brown sauce, but anything I'd have it on (fry up, sausage bap) I'd rather have ketchup on. Or with cheese on toast I'd rather have red onion chutney.

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TheABC · 05/08/2024 09:40

Yes, very much beeee kind and "what does it matter to you anyway?" Plus vested interests and a massive blob of mysiogny.

What's eye-opening is how little people think it through (or logically). Even ones with the degree to back it up.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/08/2024 09:54

It's people who are supporting women facing males in a boxing ring who are being distinctly 'unkind'. Where is the kindness and compassion for those women?

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lcakethereforeIam · 05/08/2024 10:34

I suppose there can be compassion for individuals with rare genetic disorders who suddenly find, very publicly, that their life is a lie. That the sporting glory that, in some instances, they thought might lift themselves and their families was impossible (or should've been). I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that. Even if your tongue is firmly in your cheek and your eyes are rolling while you do it.

It is odd though that they treat a friend so badly for a bloke that two weeks ago they'd never heard of, playing a sport they probably didn't care about and representing a country they couldn't find on a map.

I would like to know that. Why they hold their friendship so cheaply? Even if your friends don't care for the actual women being cheated, or the girls these men are displacing, why does it matter to them that you do?

Edited to add

I think I need a drink, Bloody Mary is technically breakfast isn't it?

BIWI · 05/08/2024 10:47

Sorry to hear that @wrongthinker Sad
I have to say, I'm very glad I'm not working any more, and don't have to deal with all the '#BeKind' and pronoun nonsense that some seem to follow so slavishly.

Your real friends will stand by you - even if they do have different wrong views.

BIWI · 05/08/2024 10:47

Oh, and you need to change your username to rightthinker!

wrongthinker · 05/08/2024 11:10

BIWI · 05/08/2024 10:47

Oh, and you need to change your username to rightthinker!

Haha maybe I will!

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 11:55

I can't believe nobody has come up with the predictable corny old waiter/fly in soup joke yet; maybe you're just all too classy? well not me, I can no longer resist itGrin
Diner: 'Waiter, what is that beetle doing in my soup?!'
Waiter: 'It looks like the backstroke, sir'

I'll get my coat. Unless you'd like to hear a corny French waiter/fly/soup joke? I'll provide subtitles..

quantumbutterfly · 05/08/2024 12:47

Look on the bright side, if it wasn't for the generous portions it would be paddling.

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 05/08/2024 12:51

@MarieDeGournay Oh I'd love to hear a corny French fly/soup joke!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:21

I am loving the wise words in here - you are all amazing and wonderful women (with an obvious gravy addiction).

@IcakethereforeIam - I agree, I can have sympathy for someone who finds out their life has been a lie, when they hit adolescence and the testosterone kicks in, and it becomes obvious they are male. But I have no sympathy if they then go on to take advantage of that to become a massive cheat at their sport, to put actual women in physical danger, and to rob them of their life’s dream. Clearly someone’s dream of sporting glory only really matters if the person is male.

And I have nothing but contempt for the coaches who search out athletes like Semenya and Imane, knowing they are male, but willing to lie, and lie, and lie, just to win trophies.

Chersfrozenface · 05/08/2024 14:26

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:21

I am loving the wise words in here - you are all amazing and wonderful women (with an obvious gravy addiction).

@IcakethereforeIam - I agree, I can have sympathy for someone who finds out their life has been a lie, when they hit adolescence and the testosterone kicks in, and it becomes obvious they are male. But I have no sympathy if they then go on to take advantage of that to become a massive cheat at their sport, to put actual women in physical danger, and to rob them of their life’s dream. Clearly someone’s dream of sporting glory only really matters if the person is male.

And I have nothing but contempt for the coaches who search out athletes like Semenya and Imane, knowing they are male, but willing to lie, and lie, and lie, just to win trophies.

And on another thread it's been said that the IBA is saying that the Taiwanese and Algerian boxing federations have written to the IBA on behalf of their athletes to expressly deny them permission to share anything further about that testing.

So add those two federations to the contemptible pile.

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 14:32

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 05/08/2024 12:51

@MarieDeGournay Oh I'd love to hear a corny French fly/soup joke!

Phew! Thank you GerbilsAllTheWayDown, I was beginning to think I Didn't Belong Here😢

OK here's the Macaronic version:

Diner: 'Waiter, there is un mouche a fly in my soup!'
[using the wrong, masculine gender, it should be UNE mouche, feminine gender]
Waiter looks closely at soup: 'You mean UNE mouche, monsieur'
Diner, astonished: 'What excellent eyesight you must have!'

So should I give up the day job?😂

Actually I've just remembered that it was originally a joke in Irish, which also has grammatical gender.
When I lived in France I noticed that they don't really 'do' jokes, they do word play and excruciating puns etc., so I took to translating English and Irish jokes into French and became the life and soul of the party. Sort of. Sometimes. Occasionally. Well more than previously....😋

quantumbutterfly · 05/08/2024 14:35

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 14:32

Phew! Thank you GerbilsAllTheWayDown, I was beginning to think I Didn't Belong Here😢

OK here's the Macaronic version:

Diner: 'Waiter, there is un mouche a fly in my soup!'
[using the wrong, masculine gender, it should be UNE mouche, feminine gender]
Waiter looks closely at soup: 'You mean UNE mouche, monsieur'
Diner, astonished: 'What excellent eyesight you must have!'

So should I give up the day job?😂

Actually I've just remembered that it was originally a joke in Irish, which also has grammatical gender.
When I lived in France I noticed that they don't really 'do' jokes, they do word play and excruciating puns etc., so I took to translating English and Irish jokes into French and became the life and soul of the party. Sort of. Sometimes. Occasionally. Well more than previously....😋

😁

lcakethereforeIam · 05/08/2024 14:44

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:21

I am loving the wise words in here - you are all amazing and wonderful women (with an obvious gravy addiction).

@IcakethereforeIam - I agree, I can have sympathy for someone who finds out their life has been a lie, when they hit adolescence and the testosterone kicks in, and it becomes obvious they are male. But I have no sympathy if they then go on to take advantage of that to become a massive cheat at their sport, to put actual women in physical danger, and to rob them of their life’s dream. Clearly someone’s dream of sporting glory only really matters if the person is male.

And I have nothing but contempt for the coaches who search out athletes like Semenya and Imane, knowing they are male, but willing to lie, and lie, and lie, just to win trophies.

I think you and I are in complete agreement 🤝. I have strong feelings about cheating males (however tragic their backstories, that's mitigation not an excuse). For the people and organisations that facilitate the cheating I have nothing but contempt. But...there was (finally) a gap at the bar and I've only scrubbed out two of the three gravy bowsers ready for the evening rush.

GerbilsAllTheWayDown · 05/08/2024 14:51

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 14:32

Phew! Thank you GerbilsAllTheWayDown, I was beginning to think I Didn't Belong Here😢

OK here's the Macaronic version:

Diner: 'Waiter, there is un mouche a fly in my soup!'
[using the wrong, masculine gender, it should be UNE mouche, feminine gender]
Waiter looks closely at soup: 'You mean UNE mouche, monsieur'
Diner, astonished: 'What excellent eyesight you must have!'

So should I give up the day job?😂

Actually I've just remembered that it was originally a joke in Irish, which also has grammatical gender.
When I lived in France I noticed that they don't really 'do' jokes, they do word play and excruciating puns etc., so I took to translating English and Irish jokes into French and became the life and soul of the party. Sort of. Sometimes. Occasionally. Well more than previously....😋

I enjoyed the joke, thanks! I'll tell it to my other half when I see him later (who grew up in France). No doubt he'll interrupt me when I say "Un Mouche" and correct me, so I can tell him what good eyesight he has 😂

ErrolTheDragon · 05/08/2024 14:58

To answer a question upthread 'Why has Beetle only got 4 legs? What disaster happened, or are they hiding?' - I can only assume that she was one-third of the way to being legless when she had her gravy dip. Hopefully she's sober and has recovered all 6 now.

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MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 15:08

The big topic of Olympics-related conversation over in Pedantry Corner is:
is the alleged verb 'to medal' an abomination, on the same level as the alleged noun 'an advisory'??

Boiledbeetle · 05/08/2024 15:10

ErrolTheDragon · 05/08/2024 14:58

To answer a question upthread 'Why has Beetle only got 4 legs? What disaster happened, or are they hiding?' - I can only assume that she was one-third of the way to being legless when she had her gravy dip. Hopefully she's sober and has recovered all 6 now.

Definitely at least a third legless!

I'm like Deadpool! I lost two on the zip wire! I'm stuck sat on the sofa until they grow back!

Chersfrozenface · 05/08/2024 15:17

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 15:08

The big topic of Olympics-related conversation over in Pedantry Corner is:
is the alleged verb 'to medal' an abomination, on the same level as the alleged noun 'an advisory'??

The alleged verb 'to medal' is an absolute abomination.

The alleged noun 'an advisory' is very, very slightly less egregious, but still a crime, as is 'a residential'.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 05/08/2024 16:13

AlisonDonut · 05/08/2024 07:55

White Citroen C3. Weird huh?

Very!

AlisonDonut · 05/08/2024 16:24

Right the tofu is frozen, the cheese has been quartered, all wrapped in greaseproof paper and bagged and frozen. That and all the veggie food we brought back, I have the fullest freezer I've ever had.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 05/08/2024 16:25

MarieDeGournay · 05/08/2024 15:08

The big topic of Olympics-related conversation over in Pedantry Corner is:
is the alleged verb 'to medal' an abomination, on the same level as the alleged noun 'an advisory'??

Both crimes & I loved the joke.💐I was thinking only yesterday (who knows why?) about the rule for feminine nouns ending -age. Is this correct? There are only 6 of them & you can put them into 3 sets of 2:

la rage dans la cage
l'image sur la page
la nage sur la plage

That's what we were taught & it stuck with me. But I'm quite prepared to hear that it's nonsense. I was once chatting to some Americans about the climate in their state & apparently what I'd been taught in a UK schoool about USA weather is 🐂💩.

Boiledbeetle · 05/08/2024 17:26

I'm afraid anyone wanting to visit the goats will be disappointed. I have just placed them into quarantine until we can get them checked. The fate of feta is at stake!

As 'Goat-plague' outbreak threatens feta cheese production - could there be a threat to humans? mol.im/a/13709825 via dailym.ai/android

Boiledbeetle · 05/08/2024 17:35

The "V" "E" "T" is on her way to do some rapid goat testing. Just don't tell the goats

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