Trans athletes take Gold, Silver and Bronze in women's cycling race

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Hulking transgender athletes take gold, silver and bronze spots on female podium at Virginia cycling championship | Daily Mail Online

"The sailing fan from British Columbia has worked as a Mechanical Engineering Technologist and was ranked 22nd in the men's Victoria Cycling League this time in 2023.
Second place went to Jenna Lingwood, 43, who raced as a man until 2017 and is now a member of the Oregon-based women's cyclocross squad Team S&M.
She is a physics graduate of the University of Washington who works in Portland for Intel as a Supply Chain R&D Engineer.

Californian Eva Lin, 28, used to race as Henry Lin for San Jose State University's men's team, but his placings have soared since he switched to its women's team in 2022"

Dirty rotten CHEATS
That is all.

Oh hang on, it never happens though.
I must be dreaming.

They didn't win anything - they cheated their way into somewhere they didn't belong.
Those poor female cyclists who deserve recognition, I'm angry for them.

https://x.com/i_heart__bikes/status/1814690860769947810

As a pp mentioned, here's the Keirin qualifier where Lingwood was relegated for pushing and head butting the female competitors. Males came first & second in the elite women qualifier.

What amazes me most about this race is that the actual adult females put up with it, by continuing to race, the women are validating these cheating men.

Surely the list of competitors is available beforehand, and these cheating men must be known in the cycling community? So why don't the women drop out of any race with a man included? How long would the cycling organisation last if every woman's race just involved two or three men?

Lisa Nandy with her "ending of culture wars", and "less heat more light"! Whilst perpetuating her 'war on women' and adding yet more heat to the issue herself - so irresponsible - people like her are causing the issue and then complaining when asked about it!
I'm so angry.
When I think of all the years sports were not accessible to women (esp. golf, cricket, football, rugby, snooker, pool) they knew what a woman was then.

Because it probably doesn’t mean just walking away from that race but walking away from your career.

Have you seen what has happened to JK Rowling? If you display gender critical view in the public eye you put a target on yourself.
They would lose sponsors (and for most sports people these are vital), you open yourself up for doxxing and abuse, you might be dropped by your team or your coach.

...the actual adult females put up with it...
What surprises me is that the sports officials, trainers and sporting bodies put up with it actually.
It is not the responsibility or fair on an individual woman there to play her sport on the day to have to take on protesting at the same time.

Interesting that this has become an issue now when women are starting to win real money in sport
Men who identify as women are now coming out of the woodwork, what a surprise!
As for the women who pretend that these men have no advantage, well they are just contemptible.

I don't think the government should be involved in making competition rules for sports. That would be authoritarian and wrong in my opinion. Let sporting bodies deal with their own cheats.

Yep

Nandy said this, a few days ago.

“But I think most have come to the conclusion that, although they want to be as inclusive as possible, biology does matter when it comes to sport, and that it’s impossible to balance the requirement of fairness without ensuring that they take biology into account"
“I think that’s broadly sensible.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/new-culture-secretary-steps-into-controversy-over-trans-athletes-competing-in-women-s-sports/ar-BB1quCfy

I don't know how any law could be drafted to include all sports, at all levels and inc new ones as they emerge.

So leave it up to the sporting bodies?

Amazed that Football still allows TW to play in the female game, well maybe not considering the banned women for many years from even playing.

If Nandy sincerely believed what was quoted by the PP, then it has to be cowardice.

I'm so curious to hear what a dyed in the wool TRA would say about this.

I know some and I think they would probably say that it was "an exception" and wouldn't happen again (while looking uncomfortable because deep down they know it's not right).

It doesn't need legislation as such but as Secretary for Culture and Sports she could put pressure on sporting bodies to not allow cheating men (and call them that for good measure) to damage women's sports. We keep being told the Equality Act allows for this and supposedly protects us.

Nandy doesn't give a shit. It's only the hard work of grassroots women and men who have got some sports to do what's right by women. That work has already taken approximately a decade.

It passes me off also that biological female athletes put up with this treatment, after they have worked so hard and are then cheated from their rewards...
Don't turn up to events ladies, chose to walk away from this degrading shift show, only then is there a chance it will stop and just become trans vtrans.

The issue is not making specific rules, as I'm sure you know. It's about setting parameters. You think it would be authoritarian to ensure that women have equal access to sport? I don't see how. It would be in line with the UK's international treaty obligations for one thing. I hope you are not saying that you think that sports bodies should be free to discriminate against women & girls (by choosing whether or not to deal with their own cheats, or to enable cheating or not) and that government interference with that freedom would be unfair? I couldn't give any credence to that argument. Women have the right to equal access to sport and the right to fair sport. Those rights are in CEDAW, to which the UK is a signatory. Those principles also underpin the provisions about sport and positive action in the Equality Act 2010. So the Government actually has a legal and moral duty to ensure that women's sports are for women only. The sports governing bodies are covered by the EA2010 and have a legal duty not to discriminate against women.

The government doesn't have to get involved in literally drafting the rules but it should be giving a steer about such a fundamental attack on women's rights. Local councils often make funding for women's services dependent on those services being available to men, don't they? Government should make sports funding contingent on providing opportunities and fairness for women. Where the government has no financial leverage, pressure should be applied to make it clear that women's human rights are not optional or negotiable.

I begged for the secret of bigly text and at last I have the chance to use it!

CHEATERS

I prefer not to know . I merely marvel, awestruck, at the bigly when I am privileged enough to see it.

So they don't turn up to the event or turn up and forfeit.
Rather than coming second earning money, ranking points, qualification for a bigger more prestigious event they get dropped by their sponsors and their coach. They become the target for online abuse and receive death threats.
Why should women have to have the hit to their career and live in fear because some men demand something they have no right to?

Saying no at a small regional event can have massive repercussions - you don't qualify for the national event, so you don't qualify for the Olympics/world championships /other major event so you miss out on the once every 4 years opportunity to perform on the world stage, become the world champion.

@Snowypeaks you might prefer not to know, however I do... but I also know I would get banned for using it too often 😂😂

So. I shall continue to cheat the system by stealing (Zeugma's). I feel no shame in doing so, perhaps because I was raised with three older brothers 🤔

Of course governments should be involved in sports and positive discrimination for female athletes based on their sexed bodies. Because this is an employment opportunity for many female athletes.

There also is some need to ensure that sporting federations provide the best safety protocols available for that sport to ensure a level of safety.

Just make up a strawman and pretend that's what I think, why don't you.

I don't think government should be getting involved in sporting bodies rules about cheating. As I said. Whether that's males competing as women, doping, or whatever it may be.

This couldn't happen in UK cycling competitions because GB cycling have made clear rules. In my opinion the right way to deal with this is to put pressure on sporting bodies you might be a member of, not whine about a woman who's been in post for less than 3 weeks on the basis of something that's happened in another country with different rules.

Quite. Safety is as important as fairness, neither of which is compatible with opening women's sports to men.

I wouldn't call keeping the female category female only "positive discrimination". That just gives ammo to butthurt MRAs

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