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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mr Beast's trans friend Messaged 13yo

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SpicyMoth · 23/07/2024 16:06

Mr Beast's (Youtuber) best friend who somewhat recently (last few years or so I think, leaving his wife and children) came out as trans has now been found to have been messaging at least one minor inappropriately.

Joking about "hentai addiction", and other sexual "edgy jokes".

(They were "jokes" according to the victim, as the victim seems to feel that they are not a victim and Kris Tyson has done nothing wrong - Even though ofc we all know that victims who are minors will many times believe that they are not victims.
Am sure we've all been teens once who were flattered and smitten with an older guy and didn't' realise until we were older or had children of our own how wrong and creepy it was despite it being "like omg SO cool!" at the time...)

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Omlettes · 27/07/2024 17:18

WitchyBits · 23/07/2024 16:36

I've seen a few of mr.beasts videos, he dies a great deal of good. The stuff he did in Africa was mind blowing in teens if helping locals etc. I eat hope this doesn't blow back on him and I really hope he knew nothing about this and isn't doing the same.

How do you know he does a lot of good?

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 27/07/2024 18:21

ThatsGoneAndDoneItNow · 27/07/2024 16:23

Interesting! Thankyou.

The KF forum discusses people who put themselves out there in public, keeping tabs on them and their claims. They document what people are up to and evidence it, rather than just speculative nastiness. If I were to post that celebrity X has done Y, I’d be asked for ‘receipts’.

When people name change, change tack or move, KF tends to keep looking. So they will have been looking at Beast and his pal.

It’s a place I find uncomfortable because there is no censorship. Language which is offensive everywhere else is acceptable there.

It has its own slang and expectations. Back up what you say, point and laugh, but never move off the boards into real life. People must not approach, follow, harass the ‘lolcows’ (people who are laughable) in real life.

RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 11:40

I went and looked at Tyson's thread on the Farms (NB. you can do this without joining KF). It has been really busy.

Someone (who was on a NSFW discord) has released the discord logs on github to the public, so the Farmers are searching this for evidence of grooming by Tyson and archiving it.

It looks like there have been 30 pages approx added to Tyson's KW thread since the discord log release and it is still being added to. I'm not going to read 30 plus pages and frankly, just knowing that the minors on that discord called Tyson 'Daddy' and that there was one confused poster who said that they were 12 is enough for me today.

If anyone wants to look at what the Farmers have found on the discord logs, you can view it on Tyson's KF thread. In featured content, you can click 'It keeps getting worse for Chris Tyson after the Discord logs were dropped' to be taken to the correct point in the thread (p353).

WarriorN · 28/07/2024 12:28

Apologies for the vagueness re the farms; I'm never sure what's allowed.

I first found out about it when yaniv was exposed and possibly was on there doing something(?)

I went to look and was met was a wall of mad scrolling text as people posted all sorts of stuff at him/ about him/ to him (??) and quickly retreated back to the serenity of mn Grin

WarriorN · 28/07/2024 12:32

Oh, I thought I'd posted another link last night but I must've forgotten to.

I found a thread posted on Twitter by a trans identified male who claims to have been groomed and coerced for sexual stuff by Tyson with promises of a job with mr beast, around the time Tyson announced transition.

RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 12:38

That's horrible. It is clear that there is more than just the one original victim. I think that the person who released the discord log is another victim. So there are at least three victims now of different ages, with/without trans identities, but all male so far.

WarriorN · 28/07/2024 12:47

It's awful.

I have grave concerns about how YouTube has been able to elevate individuals without any gatekeeping, and how their content is accessible for children.

Obviously similar has happened at the bbc and other tv orgs, but newer legislation has allowed internal processes to do as much screening and whistleblowing as possible (more so I believe at the bbc since the Brand stuff came out)

Thank god for the whistleblowers at the farms.

FiveFoxes · 28/07/2024 12:59

Just to clarify, as a parent of boys who are fans of Mr Beast, is Mr Beast himself suspected to be potentially guilty of knowing and not acting, but he's not suspected of potentially grooming himself? Is that right?

Also, as an aside, was the coming out as Trans thing potentially "convenient timing" like Philip Schofield announcing he was gay?

WarriorN · 28/07/2024 13:04

I don't think mr beast is implicated. Not followed it all enough to know though if he initially downplayed it. Did later make a statement distancing himself from Tyson afaik

WarriorN · 28/07/2024 13:11

Also, as an aside, was the coming out as Trans thing potentially "convenient timing" like Philip Schofield announcing he was gay?

Motivation for adult males who've already had a marriage and a child is certainly questionable.

RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 13:24

I did see that he (Jimmy) had posted on the NSFW discord. I'll have a quick look and see if I can find a screenshot from the log. There could be more, but there is too much to search through (thread now at p391).

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RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 13:32

Lava is Tyson's first victim BTW.

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RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 13:41

Last one as so many of the messages from the log, which have been archived on KF, are horrible to read. Hopefully the screenshots posted are helpful.

If anyone has young children who watch MrBeast, you can look at the evidence for yourself on KF, read more of it than I have and come to your own conclusions.

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Fruityful · 28/07/2024 13:50

RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 13:41

Last one as so many of the messages from the log, which have been archived on KF, are horrible to read. Hopefully the screenshots posted are helpful.

If anyone has young children who watch MrBeast, you can look at the evidence for yourself on KF, read more of it than I have and come to your own conclusions.

You're doing great work. I would link to the thread myself but I think if anybody posts an actual link the Antipodean Fruit Farmer's Forum in question, their post gets deleted, right?

It's not hard to find though - Null featured it so it's one of the first things you see when you go there. The thread is moving pretty fast right now. Seems they've more or less confirmed that Mr. Beast was one of the people present during some of these conversations though he may have been more turning a blind eye than involved. To be clear, that's not an excuse, just being clear.

Most incriminating stuff I've seen so far is Kris Tyson saying that most members of the (Discord) server were minors and posting his nudes in a NSFW channel. To be clear to those not used it, I don't think NSFW is anything more than a flag, I don't think it stops anyone on that server from looking at it. And the other is he posted a picture of someone (don't know what the picture was) but the accompanying comment was "she's 14... damn" followed by a bunch of talk about that being legal in some parts of the world, etc.

Mr. Beast should have fired this guy the moment he trooned out, honestly. Would have saved himself a LOT of trouble and maybe some kids from being exposed to it.

Fruityful · 28/07/2024 13:52

Oh, and he (Kris Tyson) added a bunch of Bots to the Discord server that were related to porn usage, finding porn. Again, I believe this was a server where he openly acknowledged he was aware had majority minors on it (unless there were more than one server but I think the leaks are all for one server?)

Sosorryliver · 28/07/2024 13:59

SpicyMoth · 23/07/2024 21:08

I think the most staggering thing to me after having a discussion/debate with friends on the topic is how many people seem to think the behaviour is excusable merely because the minor in question (now 20yo themselves) seems to find nothing wrong with the communication...

"Oh well if the victim doesn't see themselves as a victim then they aren't one!"
As if that magically makes it all okay...?!!!

I certainly didn't see myself as a victim when I met an older boy online when I was 14 and he was 19 - I thought older guys were cool and interesting.
"Why would a 19 year old adult be talking to a 14 year old" didn't even cross my mind until I was probably 24/25 ffs, I'm 28 now and although I've had 3 years to dwell on it, while I find it gross and vile in hindsight and definitely acknowledge that grooming occurred there and I was 100% a victim, my actual memories of the event aren't negative, in my mind I was consenting - though ofc I'm well aware that as a child at the time I could not consent, nor can any child consent....

I get the impression it just must be mostly young people and those without kids or who don't want kids defending this behaviour?
Nothing else makes much sense to me as to how it's not incredibly obviously not okay?!

As a 14 yo I snogged/ was thoroughly groped by a football player. He asked me to feel his cock but I was mortified and scarpered . I’d barely kissed a boy and was painfully shy. At the time I felt very flattered and grown up but 🤮 in hindsight at a 20 something bloke hitting on a child.

RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 13:59

If anyone can't find the farms and they want to think about whether or not they should be letting their children watch MrBeast videos by reading what has been found first hand:

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If this gets deleted, I tried!

Fruityful · 28/07/2024 14:15

RainWithSunnySpells · 28/07/2024 13:59

If anyone can't find the farms and they want to think about whether or not they should be letting their children watch MrBeast videos by reading what has been found first hand:

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If this gets deleted, I tried!

It's become a lot easier to find now. I think following the success of the Litigation Fund and that hosting company having to back down, it put the wind up TPTB that maybe they'd got a bit high on their own supply and that they might actually be opening themselves up to lawsuits. So you can just type "kiwifarms" into Google or Bing and it will return a link to the site. Google still puts the libellously inaccurate Wikipedia entry as its first result but it will (now) give you the site. Didn't used to.

Anyway, usual caveat for any delicate flowers - it's the Farms and it has its own culture. But you can handle it - you're adults. (And therefore of no interest to Kris Tyson).

Egeol · 28/07/2024 14:24

FiveFoxes · 28/07/2024 12:59

Just to clarify, as a parent of boys who are fans of Mr Beast, is Mr Beast himself suspected to be potentially guilty of knowing and not acting, but he's not suspected of potentially grooming himself? Is that right?

Also, as an aside, was the coming out as Trans thing potentially "convenient timing" like Philip Schofield announcing he was gay?

There’s old podcasts of mr beast talking inappropriately about a 14 year old as well as knowing and not acting on this.

edit I’ve said not acting on it, but actually he boosted kris up, gave him this platform despite knowing, so he did act on it, just in the opposite way a decent person would.

Fruityful · 28/07/2024 14:42

Egeol · 28/07/2024 14:24

There’s old podcasts of mr beast talking inappropriately about a 14 year old as well as knowing and not acting on this.

edit I’ve said not acting on it, but actually he boosted kris up, gave him this platform despite knowing, so he did act on it, just in the opposite way a decent person would.

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Yeah, @RainWithSunnySpells showed the images from the farms where they've now confirmed via user IDs in the leaked Discord logs that one of them does appear to be Mr Beast himself. So some level of awareness is confirmed. Now it is to be see how much. But I'm pretty sure either way, he's going to come to regret making the below tweet last year:

Fruityful · 28/07/2024 14:43

Wait - where did the image go? I'll try again.

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SpicyMoth · 28/07/2024 16:58

Jesus christ... This whole thing has gotten SO much worse!
Mr Beast is on some very thin ice right now it seems with how deep and how much more seemingly explicit it goes??

How any of them can even suggest that what Tyson did wasn't grooming is insane to me- It meets the childline criteria EASILY ffs.

Also I'm an avid user of discord, NSFW channels in discord mean nothing.
There's often no warning, and if there is a warning, you can simply tick through it and say you're of age even if you're not - No verification really at all for that type of thing, minors can easily access those types of sub channel.

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FiveFoxes · 28/07/2024 19:43

This is really sad news - MrBeast comes across as a 'good' YouTuber- I have seen the videos and I don't mind my children watching, I have even watched and enjoyed a couple myself with them. 😢

Thank you for answering my questions.

OvaHere · 28/07/2024 19:54

FiveFoxes · 28/07/2024 12:59

Just to clarify, as a parent of boys who are fans of Mr Beast, is Mr Beast himself suspected to be potentially guilty of knowing and not acting, but he's not suspected of potentially grooming himself? Is that right?

Also, as an aside, was the coming out as Trans thing potentially "convenient timing" like Philip Schofield announcing he was gay?

I've not seen enough evidence yet that Mr Beast is into the fucked up and potentially illegal stuff that Chris is. I have seen evidence that he knew about the Discords and at least some of what was happening there with minors.

So I'm afraid he is every bit complicit and as the brand/business owner should have been the one person shutting this down.

Youtube should be shutting this down also. I don't care if he's their biggest revenue maker. They've banned channels for a lot less.