FFS disability is now on the pride flag

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I'm livid. I'm disabled and I do not want to be represented on the LGBTQ+ flag.

Also this quote: Dayna Halliwell (she/her), Content and Engagement Manager at Evenbreak, led the collaboration and organised the Pride visit. She said: “It was very moving and amazing to see the reaction of disabled people in the audience. You could see the joy on their faces of being represented in the parade.”

https://blog.evenbreak.co.uk/2024/07/02/new-disability-inclusive-pride-flag-unveiled-at-london-pride/

Yes, that makes sense. I think I may be confusing myself and thinking of the old Disability Discrimination Act, but you're right - I think this only applies to buildings built after a certain date.

I maintain that it's not brilliant practice, but yes, I stand corrected re it being illegal or in breach of EA2010

You come across as pretty homophobic. What about all the gay people who don’t have a ‘funny voice/walk’? What about all the straight people with funny voices/walks?

You’re talking about people deliberately seeking attention- yes such people exist and always have. Some of them are gay, some of them are not. Some are even trans and NB.

How about my daughter? A wheelchair user? Does she count? Are you speaking for everybody with any kind of disability?

I was just about to say this. By disability they no doubt mean ND and the freedom to identify as such, which I think is where it crosses paths with gender identity. Campaigns for people with physical disabilities aren’t really on the radars of virtue signallers or the ‘gender diverse’ from what I have seen, presumably because it doesn’t fall under the umbrella of ‘Identity’. MH has also fallen out of fashion among this crowd. In my experience the ‘awareness’ around MH only went so far as MH Lite. People with schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder or by and large bipolar disorder (as it actually presents, not just ‘ooh I’m so bipolar today’) barely got a mention. Similarly, people with autism who experience profound difficulties such as epilepsy, violent behaviours and being non-verbal aren’t represented in the same way.

I think the Identity movement is basically just an endeavour in narcissism and look at me, dressed up as Awareness. Meanwhile people complain about wheelchair ramps looking unsightly and huff and puff about making space for a wheelchair on public transport or someone having an autistic meltdown (not helped by things like ‘woke’ fuckers playing music through speakers in public places). Just look at the recent AIBU thread about intolerance of disabled people.

I say all this as a technically ND person (although I find that term problematic for a number of reasons) who has a diagnosis of ADHD. I fear this kind of celebration of diversity or whatever it’s supposed to be is harmful to education on the subject. Other than relevant professionals and one or two close friends, I don’t tell anyone IRL about my diagnosis because I’d get an eye roll. Because of shite like this.

So our rainbow crossing is being replaced by a crossing with only the black brown blue and pink.

Which suggests that it’s not about sexual orientation at all, any more. The rainbow without the rainbow colours!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4y0ke2x15o?at_bbc_team=editorial&at_medium=social&at_ptr_name=facebook_page&at_format=link&at_link_id=BB8990CE-433B-11EF-9FC5-8D8E6307E4DB&at_link_type=web_link&at_link_origin=BBC_East_Midlands&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR09MKF0w86IhnALbSfHQOGMk6kq7pPyBjYydsiAl2OvbmQ55wEuG6cbIjE_aem_LaPXGBDbkgUWsFbxnBv_pQ

So it will just be identifying as a rainbow then?

@VictorianBigot

‘woke’ fuckers playing music through speakers in public places

What, in the name of fuck has playing music through speakers got to do with being 'woke', and did you know that 'woke' is actually a hate word?

What IS a hate word?
Who decides?

You've heard of greenwashing.

This is Pridewashing

Basically selling t-shirts to anyone gullible enough. and Making the lovely $$$$$$ off them. Being very homophobic and anti-disability on the way.

Which STILL doesn't help the guide dogs who get confused by these crossings. Who needs guide dogs?? anyone?

Words like 'cis' and 'birthing parent' I'm assuming.

They're not actually crossings, though, as the stripes aren't parallel with the pavement/footway. They're just propaganda decoration - probably why the word crossings is in quotation marks in the BBC story.

Any traffic allowed along the road is not obliged to stop for pedestrians at that point, since it doesn't conform to zebra crossing standards and there are no traffic lights.

Ah but now you can identify as being disabled and being disabled is to be celebrated in a totally non specific way, so who needs those pesky adjustments to make things easier? That just gets in the way of all this joy. Just embrace the fact your guide dog can't see and you might end up walking out in front of a car - pride joy! Or something.

Funny how you actually have to provide proof to get disability benefits and can't just self ID into that. Talking about processes which lack dignity - any attempt to make applying for or even keeping disability benefits more dignified or easier? No?

@SeeSeeRider Well, this is an example of movements hijacking the original meaning of something (in the case of woke - racial prejudice and discrimination) and diluting it to the point it becomes a parody. Like what is happening with biology, disability, sexuality and DSDs among others.

The guide dogs need to reframe their victimhood and check their privilege. Clearly they are brimming over with hate and prejudice.

It’s fine, surely the dog will now understand his owner is now included.

On a sort of side note, How the fuck have people who are affected by racism not kicked up a stink about being dragged into this shit show?

Maybe they are? But you don't hear from them...

Meaning aside, the flag has started to become real ugly. Can we please at least make it aesthetically pleasing?!

Those of us who don’t live our lives framed in victimhood get drowned out by those who do, and their white allies who have much louder voices than we do. You might want to see what has happened to women of colour who have spoken out.

If a far-right demagogue or newspaper calls people like me 'woke' for having progressive or inclusive views and means it pejoratively, then I decide.

You have not explained why you call people who play music through speakers in public places "woke". It seems to me that you have not so much hijacked the meaning as destroyed it altogether.

I assume it’s as a results of folks taking health damaging drugs… there always seems to be a high proportion of folks with canes, walkers and wheelchairs at demos. Not sure if it includes people with autism but they’d be a fair chunk too.

why can’t they just leave the flipping rainbow to cover sexuality. Personality and disability… come off it. What next?

Apart altogether from the offensive politics of that vexillologist's nightmare known as the Progress Flag, there's the stupidity of messing up the original rainbow flag - a rainbow contains all colours anyway, why add more?

It doesn't contain black, and it also doesn't contain white, as these are absence/presence of light, not colours.
It was a perfectly adequate symbol of diversity without all these garish and clashing additions.

But I suppose ignoring scientific fact about the rainbow ties in well with ignoring scientific fact about human biology...

I suppose stupid neo-Pride flags that almost erase the original rainbow are the in thing nowadays. In the past couple of years I've seen Pride logos incorporating Palestinian or Ukrainian colours.

To properly reflect the economics of Pride, the flag should really include a vodka bottle.

On a more serious note, I have a long-term chronic illness. It is debilitating, has visible symptoms and it's not an illness that the trendy neurospicy crowd would ever self-ID into. My illness sucks, I wish I didn't have it, and I certainly don't need a fucking flag to wave. Easier workplace adjustments would be nice though.

I'd presumed that poster means self-identified progressives who take along loud speakers to drown out the public voices at public events of anyone they disagree with.

Ironic that those who identify as anti-fascist seek to literally and forcibly drown out the voices of those they disagree with, thus stopping anyone else from hearing those views and forming their own opinions on what they are saying. Hard to think of something less democratic really.